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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 03:39 PM Aug 2018

Here's Where Things Get Dangerous


August 24, 2018 at 1:27 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard

Andrew Sullivan: “There was a sense among some this week that we had at last reached that golden ‘inflection point’ when all of Trump’s lies, scams, cons, and crimes finally sink in with Republicans, and the cult begins to crack.”

“I tend to think something else is happening: that we are entering the most dangerous phase of Donald Trump’s presidency. We always knew this would happen — that the rule of law and Trump would at some point be unable to coexist — but we had no idea how it would specifically play out. Now we see the lay of the land a little more clearly.”

“What we’re about to find out is if Trump can pull off all his usual tricks, and face no serious political or legal consequences for this. I’d say that question remains nerve-rackingly open.”

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https://politicalwire.com/2018/08/24/heres-where-things-get-dangerous/
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MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
1. If you bend a steel bar back and forth many times,
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 03:45 PM
Aug 2018

there comes a point where the metal becomes brittle in the area that is being bent. Eventually, it simply breaks. It's difficult to predict the exact time when that point will occur. Trump is like that. He's being bent sharply, again and again, by those who oppose him. Over and over again, he has survived that bending, but, like that bar of steel, metal fatigue is inexorably occurring.

Will he break now or sometime later? I can't predict, but I can predict that there will be a time when the break happens. We will know it at once when it occurs. For now, though, we can only keep repeating the cycle of bending him over and over again. It will happen, if we just do that.

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
3. What happens to a bar of flab and fat when you bend it over and over?
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 04:07 PM
Aug 2018

Stalin is protesting from Hell about your analogy.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
5. Yah, well, we're all made of flesh. But, the same rule applies, really.
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 04:15 PM
Aug 2018

Inside that flesh there is a person. It is the person who breaks, not the body.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
2. Trump cancelling Pompeo's trip to North Korea
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 03:59 PM
Aug 2018

is frightening. Every time I think trump couldn't get worse, he does. A wag the dog scenario with a nuclear power on China's border is surely unthinkable to even trump and the gop, right? A nuclear holocaust to distract from trump's criminal enterprises? trump wouldn't do that, would he? I don't know if there is anything trump wouldn't do. Hitler had his Gotterdammerung toward the end of WW2. trump is IMO no less evil than Hitler.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
4. He did send his warmest regards to Kim. He still hopes for a deal.
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 04:11 PM
Aug 2018

Realistically, I think the greater risk is that he might give away even more quid for no quo and in the end nothing.

Like maybe withdraw from S Korea unilaterally.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
7. Yeah, I hope you are right
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 04:29 PM
Aug 2018

but trump is irrational and erratic. Hopefully, he won't be able to unilaterally pull out of South Korea, but if he does, it can probably be reversed when he is gone. Perhaps I am slightly paranoid about what he will do as a distraction.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Dangerous as long as there are people like Andrew Sullivan out there
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 04:20 PM
Aug 2018

That is to say, people with inexplicably indestructible respectability or credibility among the Very Serious People who shamelessly front for crooks like Trump, gaslighting the public that what they're seeing with their own horrified eyes isn't so very bad. In fact, it's not bad at all, but is really almost good. Scratch that, it IS good to see the durability of our system of government put to a stress test like this. Sure, some* particularly vulnerable people might experience some bad consequences, but adversity builds character if you're not one of the privileged like Andrew Sullivan. And why didn't you choose to be privileged, huh? Losers!

*"Some" defined as no more than 200 million Americans, 250 million tops.

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