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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 03:44 PM Aug 2018

If we want to do long-term damage to the Republican Party...

Democrats must hammer home the message that the rise of Trump (and the enabling of Trump) or someone like him was the inevitable result of 50 years of Republican rhetoric and policy. With an immense amount of help from an irresponsible infotainment industry that chases ratings, promotes false equivalencies, denies responsibility for fact-checking, and often implies that every statement is an equally valid opinion (there are no facts, there are no lies; there are only opinions), all in the name of boosting profits and not upsetting advertisers. It's not enough for a few pundits on MSNBC or CNN to state the obvious.

When Trump is gone, I guarantee you that the dominant narrative will be that everything is hunky-dory, that Trump was merely a bump in the road. Unless Democrats preemptively establish a different, more honest narrative.

The Republican Party has fomented and exploited racism (including xenophobia), sexism, religious bigotry, jingoism and extreme selfishness for decades. The pre-Trump Republican Party is directly responsible for Trump. They need to own that, which the anti-Trump Republicans who appear on TV or who are retiring from Congress aren't doing--they're all pushing this idea that the pre-Trump Republican Party was just fine. When in reality they need to make drastic changes or close shop and let a new party fill the void.

If Democrats don't start hammering home that message (which, yes, involves taking the media to task via the media...something Republicans started doing decades ago to great success) and take control of the narrative, the post-Trump Republican Party and the media will claim all is well because we've returned to normalcy. As if that's acceptable. As if everything was just fine pre-Trump. As if the Republican Party hasn't long been built upon a foundation of bigotry, greed and lies. As if the Republican Party hasn't long been morally and ethically bankrupt. As if the Republican Party hasn't relied heavily upon race-based gerrymandering and voter suppression. As if the "liberal media" lie of the last 30+ years wasn't bullshit from day one.

It would be a mistake to think the Mueller investigation and removal of Trump and convictions for other Republicans will be enough to destroy the Republican Party as we know it. Memories and attention spans are short. Democrats must establish the dominant narrative, or Republicans will. And repetition is utilized for a reason. It works, and it's necessary. Make Republicans own the monster they've created. The monster isn't Trump but the environment that gave rise to the Republican Party of Trump.

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bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
2. Exactly, they need to be forced to grow a new bench
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 04:03 PM
Aug 2018

Anyone of them that has had any influence in the last two decades need to be off the table for national office.

Even if a Kasich had gotten in instead of the Dotard, most of the things done would have happened as well, just without the daily tweets to rankle us all.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
10. Yeah, Kasich would be horrific, but because...
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 09:34 PM
Aug 2018

...he wouldn't be as overt in his bigotry or quite as lacking in ethics, someone like Kasich would be seen as perfectly reasonable even if his policy positions were basically identical to Trump's.

Democrats need to finally put a stop to the rightward shift of the Overton Window, or else we'll see Trump 2.0 before long.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
3. Put it to voters this way: Republicons CREATED Trump, ENABLE him & PROTECT him. Keep brands welded.
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 04:07 PM
Aug 2018

Simple, direct.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
11. Democrats in the media, on the floor of Congress and everywhere else...
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 09:38 PM
Aug 2018

...need to bluntly state that Republicans have been fomenting and exploiting racism and sexism for half a century, and that the pre-Trump Republican Party laid the groundwork for Trump.

Trump is not some lone wolf bad apple. He's a symptom.

If Democrats don't beat that drum over and over and over again, we'll all regret it.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
12. Well said. The Overton Window keeps moving rightward. It needs to be put in reverse.
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 09:42 PM
Aug 2018

If we allow Republicans to succeed in establishing a narrative that says Trump (and all those who support him) would have been just fine if it weren't for a bit of corruption and if he wasn't quite as overt in his bigotry, it won't be long before we see Trump Version 2.0. Bank on it.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. You nailed it in every sentence. Democrats have been assaulted by republicans for 50 years.
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 04:46 PM
Aug 2018

Trump is the crown to their vileness and dishonesty. Our leaders and those running for office must state that clearly everytime a camera is in their face and if there is no camera, find one or talk to opinion editors at newspapers. Time to stop turning the other cheek.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
13. How well we do in 2018 and beyond will depend, in part, on our ability...
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 09:47 PM
Aug 2018

...to put the Overton Window in reverse. Republicans have succeeded in continually moving it rightward, meaning what once was extremism has become mainstream, while the likes of McCain and Collins are considered moderates, which would be absurd in a sane world.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
14. Inaugural address delivered to the University of St. Andrews, John Stuart Mill, 1 February 1867
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 10:07 PM
Aug 2018

... Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject. It depends on the habit of attending to and looking into public transactions, and on the degree of information and solid judgment respecting them that exists in the community, whether the conduct of the nation as a nation, both within itself and towards others, shall be selfish, corrupt, and tyrannical, or rational and enlightened, just and noble ...

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Inaugural_address_delivered_to_the_University_of_St._Andrews,_Feb._1st_1867

Brawndo

(535 posts)
9. Totally Agree!
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 05:43 PM
Aug 2018

Good job here of pointing out the foul soil that Republicans allowed tRump to grow in. There is nothing we as Democrats can say to Republicans that can be a persuasive message, nothing that will penetrate through to their "brains." I've given up debating them and have at last arrived at this one message.

Whether in the ballot box or the battlefield, We Outnumber You. Sleep tight.

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
15. Great message, but don't expect help from the media...
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 10:14 PM
Aug 2018

The corporate-owned media has done everything in it's power to normalize the criminality and systemic corruption of Republican administrations for decades and continues to do so today.

Cha

(297,232 posts)
17. But, it isn't just trump. It's the whole doormat
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 10:22 PM
Aug 2018

repub congress who enabled him. They could have stopped him the first time he broke the law.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
18. And those anti-Trump Republicans aren't remotely innocent either. As I concluded my post...
Fri Aug 24, 2018, 10:53 PM
Aug 2018

The monster isn't Trump but the environment that gave rise to the Republican Party of Trump.

The Trump base is the Republican base. Democrats (when appearing in the media, in campaign speeches, on the floor of Congress, etc.) need to bluntly state that Republicans have fomented and exploited racism, sexism and general ignorance over the last half century. Make it clear that the pre-Trump Republican Party laid the groundwork for Trump.

If we don't establish the dominant narrative, Republicans will...and it won't be long before we see Trump Version 2.0.

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