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pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 09:17 PM Aug 2018

YES!!!!!! Rachel FINALLY mentioned that the Cohen plea deal

explicitly reserves the right of the prosecutors to still go after him under the RICO statutes, i.e, RACKETEERING.

I kept hearing people say that SDNY was done with him, that he wouldn't be prosecuted by them for anything else, and I kept thinking, "but what about that sentence about the RICO statute?"

Finally someone confirms I didn't misread it.




https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211029038

What jumped out at me was the part of the letter to Guy Petrillo, attorney, on page 2, paragraph 4, where it said this agreement doesn't preclude them from other prosecutions (other than the ones they agree not to prosecute him for) including 18 U.S.C. 1961.

18 U.S.C. 1961 is a racketeering statute. IOW, they seem to be reserving the possibility of prosecuting him for racketeering.

Or am I misreading that?

Also, reading the plea agreement itself, there appear to be several possible OTHER participants in what looks like a campaign-finance conspiracy, including the news media corporation, an agent, an editor, and "the company" that reimbursed Cohen and even paid him a "bonus" -- i.e., the Trump corporation.

I wonder if any of them are facing charges now.
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YES!!!!!! Rachel FINALLY mentioned that the Cohen plea deal (Original Post) pnwmom Aug 2018 OP
Yup... 2naSalit Aug 2018 #1
Definitely worth watching tonight. n/t pnwmom Aug 2018 #4
Wow he is toast MaryMagdaline Aug 2018 #2
Rachel Rocks! Marcuse Aug 2018 #3
This is simple conjecture on my part... Princess Turandot Aug 2018 #5
Yes, that's my understanding too is that the state charges can be levied if they're not the same ... uponit7771 Aug 2018 #6
Also really wonder how much Trump could be also implicated in RICO? triron Aug 2018 #9
"the news media corporation"? KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #7
AMI green917 Aug 2018 #8
Right, it's AMI. pnwmom Aug 2018 #12
Thanks, I was afraid that was the case. KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2018 #13
kick JHan Aug 2018 #10
Good on you, pnwmom.. Thank You Cha Aug 2018 #11

2naSalit

(86,751 posts)
1. Yup...
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 09:24 PM
Aug 2018

I knew it would be over a year ago. I won't be able to see it until later, thanks for headzup!

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
5. This is simple conjecture on my part...
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 10:31 PM
Aug 2018

That specification makes it clear that the Feds have not prosecuted them for RICO violations to date.

If NYS believes that the activities of Cohen & Friends & Ex-Friends rise to a violation of the state's Enterprise Corruption law - New York's version of a Rico statute - does this help NYS prosecutors get around the state's double jeopardy rule (which precludes them from prosecuting someone who has already been tried in Federal Court on the same charges).

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
6. Yes, that's my understanding too is that the state charges can be levied if they're not the same ...
Mon Aug 27, 2018, 10:37 PM
Aug 2018

... charges someone has been found not guilty of in a federal trial.

Also

The person who held out ... MIGHT ... have helped the state in case Red Don pardons or commutes Cohen's sentence in that since Cohen wasn't acquitted he can be brought up on state charges that the jury hung on.

green917

(442 posts)
8. AMI
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 12:06 AM
Aug 2018

I'm assuming that refers to American Media incorporated (the parent company of the national Enquirer) which is involved in count 7 of his plea (the payment to karen mcdougal).

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
13. Thanks, I was afraid that was the case.
Tue Aug 28, 2018, 12:29 AM
Aug 2018

One can dream, though......

Great to see the Enquirer getting some comeuppance after many years of abusing our freedom of press. Sort of the Faux News of the tabloid stand in the Dollar Store.

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