they don't know nuffink. /snark

But this is America and we must keep our pharma-sue-ticals happy.

Do you think they pipe a lot of smoke into the rat cages or whatever? 'Course not, because there are several hundred chemicals in pot smoke, and such an experiment wouldn't be helpful at all.

No, they isolate the chemicals they're looking for, and apply them acutely to get a desired result.

Think of it this way... it takes about four cups of a strong willow bark decoction to equal two aspirin. In addition to time needed and a quart of water, you're not only getting the active ingredient (acetylsalicylic acid) but also plenty of other things; tannins and alkalis, mostly.

In other words, this is a pharmaceutical study, being performed on the behalf and to the benefit of the pharmaceutical industries; chemical isolates that can be applied more acutely and with less health issues than y'know, sucking lungfuls of smoke, is a good thing.

If you want legal smoke, cool, i'm with you. Just do me a favor, and do what I do.

"I support legalization of cannibis because there is nothing wrong with a recreational high"

You don't need medicine, or the rope industry, or whatever to justify this

Couldn't agree more!

and inflammation from the freaking lupus.

Dont bogart that joint my friend, pass it over to me

didn't touch the pain. i was just super baked *and* crippled

smoking. many people say herb relaxes them. for me, it's a mood enhancer. if 'm feeling good and i smoke, i feel great. if i've got a lot of anxiety and smoke, it often makes the anxiety worse.. it's still worth having around though!

my legs off at the knees. I have to keep the hands though. Weed absolutely freaking WORKS on neuropathic pain! My back flairs up, and like someone here said, it just makes you baked. My problem is that I cannot smoke and be ALLOWED to take my meds as it would be an illegal substance in my system. They would not prescribe the 12 hour morphine pills (I got off of them in a week due to the fact that I cannot function on it) if i had Mary Jane in my system. I have to have other meds, all with worse side affects, because pot is ILLEGAL! When I ask my doctors about it, they all immediately say, "it is illegal" and do not wish to discuss it further. I got one to say that "it has similar effects as vicodine and other pain pills, it puts you in a dis-associative state." it does not work on all pain, but on many types it is amazing. Your worst danger is with weight gain. I'd rather gain weight than go through withdrawals any day! Toke on my brothers!

from a topical application.I have heard that coconut oil tincture is quite effective.Yes I suppose it does vary from individual to individual,and from strain to strain,but using a decent Indica strain and then making a coconut oil tincture would be the first thing I would try.




I don't think we will be getting any help from our nominee tho,as he has shown his true colors on this topic before.and that is NOT to his credit,and I have a long memory.

from an old skiing injury decades ago, and it did it within 48 hours. Now I just use it to keep me where I am. I sleep like a baby now, and don't have the weird tingling pains.

And that effect helps me sleep well.

That's really all I need to know.

Legalize it please.

is that a bag of Doritos?

It never gets old.

I pulled a groin muscle in my left leg. Let me tell you, now I know why football players are out for six weeks with a pulled groin muscle. If I didn't have to worry about random drug testing, I'd be lighting a spliff right now to ease some of the pain. Ibuprofen isn't doing squat.

I had a period of debilitating pain in the muscles and joints of my shoulders. Indica was a quick and effective pain reliever, but sativa made the pain much worse.

Thanks for the thread, marmar.

let's all get drunk, and then drive... drinking and over drinking is so much fun... funny, I never woke with a hangover after smoking marijuana, nor have I ever gotten into a fight with someone, nor did I get into a car and thought I was a better driver while smoking it. I guess there is NO RATIONAL for the absurd law against an herb(no fermentation necessary).

....and waking up on your bosses lawn buck naked when the sprinklers turned on....

Have therapeutic potential for various diseases.

The problem is not whether or not cannibinoids are of a healing nature.

The problem is that smoking dope in HS doesn't ensure that when you grow up and become the President, you will possess the cajones needed to tell all your good buddies at the Big Banks, The Big Prison Industry, and Big Pharma that you will do the right thing and see that cannibinoids are re-classified so they can be used by one and all. (Obama can, after all, appoint whomever he wants to head the DOJ, and that person can go ahead and re-classify the substance!)

...but we can't talk about that.

Have a Xanax.

"Sweetie, I woke up with the flu."

"Oh, I'm so sorry babe, I'll make some chamomile tea and roll up some of that Thai stick, and you'll feel better."

Here's something else scientists might discover 40 years from now:

There are certain hybrid strains of marijuana that appear to have powerful anti-viral properties when properly heated to release the Cannabinoids for oral ingestion, and then mixed in combination with 3 other common legal medicinal herbs (I'm not saying which herbs). This is the only combination we had a chance to try out, and we found it to apparently be most effective at killing viruses.

The problem is, we got busted, and the fucking stupid ass cops took all of our seeds, and our stashes, (over 40 varieties), including the medicinal varieties.

We had been experimenting with crossing many different varieties of cannabis indica, cannabis sativa, and cannabis ruderalis, and honestly, it was mostly to create a hybrid that had high THC content, and would completely mature before first frost in northern climes. We were also interested in possible medicinal properties, but had no real proven base medicinal strain to start with.

However, we accidentally discovered that one of our hybrid varieties apparently had powerful anti-viral properties, when my partner blended it into a simple tea with the aforementioned herbal combination. It cured my cold within two hours. It killed two other people's virulent colds within 2 hours. It killed a child's severe screaming earache in about 15 minutes. I don't mean it just alleviated the symptoms. It made the disease go away completely.

And then the idiot cops kicked the door in, and took all our shit. How's that for irony?

Of course, we never had the chance to do enough controlled experiments in order to determine exactly what was being effective in killing the diseases. You can't just go out and say, "hey, I see you have a cold. Wanna try to cure it with some marijuana tea?" And people just don't walk around with colds all the time. And we couldn't go to a legal researcher and say, "hey, we have this great cannabis herbal blend tea that cures the common cold, would you please try to determine for us exactly what in this herbal combination is apparently killing these viruses? We did not even know if we could reproduce that particular hybrid strain of cannabis again, although we had detailed ledgers containing the lineage and characteristics of every one our plants.

So what I'm telling you here is, we may have accidentally discovered a simple cure for the common cold, and possibly other viruses, and this was all lost forever because Barney Fife and Gomer Pyle and some other dumbass cops kicked our door in and took everything, including our research ledgers, and me as well.

Lots of important medical discoveries have occurred because of accident, and dumb luck and circumstance.

This may have been one of them. Lost forever, with no hope of recovery, end of story. Ouch.

I never grew herb again after that; I didn't have the heart, nor the desire for another felony, and I knew that the odds of ever being able to create those very same circumstances in order to reproduce our accidental discovery were literally impossible. But I will never stop wondering what might have been, if Sheriff John, Deputies Barney and Gomer, and the other good ol' boys, had not picked that particular time and place to do their dirty deeds.

It's pretty weird, actually. A bunch of goofy cops came into our home without our permission and stole our flowers. Flowers that we grew ourselves; flowers that we owned, and used for medicine. Some of this medicine may have been the greatest medical discovery of the 20th century, for all I know.

I heard they burned it all in a bonfire somewhere, but I'm pretty sure that a few of the cops burned some of it real slow, a little at a time, after work, in the privacy of their homes.

Yeah, I know, this seems totally unbelievable, and honestly I really don't care, if you can just at least imagine that it is true, and think about the irony, and the tragic waste that has occurred because of stupid laws, and the enforcement of these laws.

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Even if it were legal, physicians worry about their older, frail, or an any way mentally compromised (or foggy) patients getting even foggier or more confused.