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David Hogg raises thousands to place billboard of Trump's anti-Cruz tweet in Texas (Original Post) Miles Archer Sep 2018 OP
Awesome idea Godsuki Sep 2018 #1
I'd like to see a billboard of Mr. Hogg's apology for the ageist things he said about Nancy Pelosi. NurseJackie Sep 2018 #2
Then show some initiative -- raise the funds and slap one up. SMC22307 Sep 2018 #5
He'd need to apologize first. NurseJackie Sep 2018 #8
You calling out Hogg via billboard... SMC22307 Sep 2018 #23
Oh brother! Let's review: "2. I'd like to see a billboard of Mr. Hogg's apology..." NurseJackie Sep 2018 #24
Hogg cleverly called out Carnival Cruz and Drumpf by using one of Drumpf's tweets. SMC22307 Sep 2018 #29
That's not the word I'd use to describe him... NurseJackie Sep 2018 #31
This can wait until after the midterms YessirAtsaFact Sep 2018 #6
So it's all relative, then. I guess there's an excuse for everything... NurseJackie Sep 2018 #9
Not everything, just divisive side issues that lose important elections YessirAtsaFact Sep 2018 #10
Oh brother! NurseJackie Sep 2018 #11
Making a stink out of an 18 y/o lack of political correctness is a waste of time YessirAtsaFact Sep 2018 #12
Giving people free-passes for attacking our party's leaders is the true "waste of time". NurseJackie Sep 2018 #15
:) Mid adolescence could be an excuse. Also being elevated Hortensis Sep 2018 #32
Not as much of a waste of time as complaining about an 18 yo's immaturity. gollygee Sep 2018 #17
I agree with NurseJackie on this one ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #18
So Do I Me. Sep 2018 #30
People in glass houses SayItLoud Sep 2018 #14
... NurseJackie Sep 2018 #16
should'nt tell half truths azureblue Sep 2018 #26
I'd be happy with an ordinary apology. GoCubsGo Sep 2018 #20
and exactly what did he say? azureblue Sep 2018 #25
Here's what he said: George II Sep 2018 #33
That really is so marvelously perfect. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2018 #3
Ha, ha... yep, throw it back in their faces. (n/t) SMC22307 Sep 2018 #4
Note to the idiot-in-chief. This is what happens if you do not follow Ronald Reagan"s advice that Doodley Sep 2018 #7
Democrats need to implement a similar rule. n/t Beartracks Sep 2018 #21
That's just brilliant! lunamagica Sep 2018 #13
They should do a billboard of the Cruz comments about Trump oberliner Sep 2018 #19
Dayum, David! Cracklin Charlie Sep 2018 #22
This is great. I hope he puts it right near the "biggest stadium" Liberal In Texas Sep 2018 #27
I like this billboard! FM123 Sep 2018 #28

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
24. Oh brother! Let's review: "2. I'd like to see a billboard of Mr. Hogg's apology..."
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 02:03 PM
Sep 2018
You calling out Hogg via billboard...does not first require an apology from him.
Oh brother! Let's review: "2. I'd like to see a billboard of Mr. Hogg's apology..."


SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
29. Hogg cleverly called out Carnival Cruz and Drumpf by using one of Drumpf's tweets.
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 02:19 PM
Sep 2018

Use Hogg's own words to call him out since you're so *concerned* about Nancy and ageism. A big ol' billboard slapped up along a heavily travelled Florida highway...

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
31. That's not the word I'd use to describe him...
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 02:30 PM
Sep 2018
29. Hogg cleverly called out Carnival Cruz and Drumpf by using one of Drumpf's tweets.
That's not the word I'd use to describe him, or his defenders. Anyone can behave like a brat and attack party leaders, that doesn't make him clever or special. It makes him a liability. He needs to man-up and be willing to admit his mistake if expects people to respect him as a national representative for this progressive cause.

Use Hogg's own words to call him out since you're so *concerned* about Nancy and ageism.
Again... let's review: "2. I'd like to see a billboard of Mr. Hogg's apology..."

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. So it's all relative, then. I guess there's an excuse for everything...
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 12:24 PM
Sep 2018
The young man has done way more good than harm.
So it's all relative, then. I guess there's an excuse and a free-pass for everything, eh?

This can wait until after the midterms

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
10. Not everything, just divisive side issues that lose important elections
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 12:27 PM
Sep 2018

Sorry you're offended.

I suggest developing thicker skin.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. Oh brother!
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 12:31 PM
Sep 2018
Not everything, just divisive side issues that lose important elections
Oh brother! My criticism of his ageism and his immature unwillingness to do the right thing and apologize isn't going to "lose important elections". GMAFB!

Sorry you're offended.
I doubt it.

I suggest developing thicker skin.
Not needed. I already have higher standards.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
12. Making a stink out of an 18 y/o lack of political correctness is a waste of time
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 12:38 PM
Sep 2018

Regarding this thread, I'm done replying to you.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. Giving people free-passes for attacking our party's leaders is the true "waste of time".
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 01:08 PM
Sep 2018
Making a stink out of an 18 y/o lack of political correctness is a waste of time
Actually... Giving people free-passes for attacking our party's leaders is the true "waste of time". Lowering one's standards and making excuses when he acts like a spoiled brat... THAT is a waste of time.

Regarding this thread, I'm done replying to you.
I figured as much.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. :) Mid adolescence could be an excuse. Also being elevated
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 03:30 PM
Sep 2018

from a high school journalism class to a national figure in one chance event of history. I agree the behavior of an 18-year-old in failing to accord Nancy Pelosi the respect she has well earned is unbecoming. But no doubt he has plenty of encouragement and company in that bumptiousness, most without a fraction of the excuse of a boy who just graduated from high school 3 months ago.

Give him another 30 years, and I'm guessing he'll have regretted the memory a number of times, but also mature enough to forgive the kid he was.

Unlike the Dunning-Kruger type males who probably will literally never be able to understand how badly they reveal their own limitations.



gollygee

(22,336 posts)
17. Not as much of a waste of time as complaining about an 18 yo's immaturity.
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 01:12 PM
Sep 2018

I mean, he is literally not particularly mature.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
18. I agree with NurseJackie on this one
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 01:17 PM
Sep 2018

Like it or not, he has become a nationally recognized spokesperson for a major progressive group. He needs to watch what he says.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
30. So Do I
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 02:21 PM
Sep 2018

very disappointed in this brilliant young man for allowing himself to be swayed by the thinking of those who they'd be better than she at the job. And let's face it, it's not just ageist, it's sexist cause I don't see any of this nonsense directed at men. Two men who keep putting out hints about running in 2020 are at the same age level as she. Can you imagine if she said she wanted to run for president? My God, heads would explode. In fact, that is one of the arguments used against HRC ever running again though she is younger than both men.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
20. I'd be happy with an ordinary apology.
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 01:19 PM
Sep 2018

No billboard necessary. That being said, I don't expect one, at least not for another 20 or 30 years. Until then, I'm chalking it up to his still having some "young and stupid know-it-all" in him. He's only 18 years old. Still has a lot of learning to do, and he's still at that age where they think they know everything. Outside of the Pelosi thing, the kid is doing alright, though.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
25. and exactly what did he say?
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 02:07 PM
Sep 2018

Beyond saying that Pelosi is "old" (a fact, especially when compared to Mr. Hogg.) To him, I am also old but I, unlike you, don't get my drawers in a knot when someone says that to me. He calls for younger people, who have no representation by people his age, to have one of their own in Congress. Exactly how is a person asking for representation "ageist"?

I think you are the one who should be apologizing for telling half truths, intentionally misrepresenting what he said, and making attacks upon a person who saw his friends cut down by gunfire right in front of him.

George II

(67,782 posts)
33. Here's what he said:
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 03:42 PM
Sep 2018

“Older Democrats just won’t move the f--- off the plate and let us take control, Nancy Pelosi is old.”

An 18-year old, or even a 25-year old or maybe even a 40-year old Congressperson doesn't have the negotiation and legislative skills that Nancy Pelosi has.

If he, or anyone else wants "younger leadership", they have to prove that they can lead before Democrats in Congress will choose anyone other than Pelosi. Until then, Pelosi's doing a great job as Minority Leader (and Speaker before that), age notwithstanding.

Doodley

(9,093 posts)
7. Note to the idiot-in-chief. This is what happens if you do not follow Ronald Reagan"s advice that
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 12:13 PM
Sep 2018

The 11th Commandment says, do not attack fellow Republicans. Oh, I forgot, you are not a Republican. You are worse than the worst Republicans.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
28. I like this billboard!
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 02:17 PM
Sep 2018

But one thing, Miles - when I clicked on the link to read more, there was a name that concerned me a bit - is the Claude Taylor that David Hogg is working with the same one that was partnered with Louise Mensch?

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