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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:01 PM Sep 2018

Is Anyone Surprised by These Woodward Revelations? - By Josh Marshall

By Josh Marshall
September 4, 2018 12:45 pm

You can see Kate Riga’s run-down of some of the most jarring revelations of the new Woodward book on Trump here. She has other morsels here in Livewire.

I wanted to make a more general point. These anecdotes, quotes and revelations are gobsmacking, jarring, bizarre. But it takes nothing away from the feat of reporting or the labor to bring these details into the light of day to say that really none of this is surprising. There’s not one thing I’ve read so far that couldn’t be inferred from President Trump’s twitter feed or his public statements – in press conferences, impromptu availabilities and the campaign rallies he still holds while serving as President.

In some cases, he has literally said these things in public. He certainly shows the abusive, aggressive behavior so pervasively that it amounts to his brand. He is an habitual, compulsive, comical liar. He lacks any moral compass. He is thoroughly, indeed militantly ignorant.

I say all these things merely to make the point that it is astonishing that the country has allowed this clownish hustler to remain President for almost two years. Even if President Trump were somewhat normal in policy terms, whether on immigration, civil rights, trade, alliances, etc and even if he hadn’t conspired with a foreign government to get elected he still wouldn’t be remotely equipped to be President. And yet here we are. Some will act surprised.

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Is Anyone Surprised by These Woodward Revelations? - By Josh Marshall (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2018 OP
No. SamKnause Sep 2018 #1
And the members of his party Lindsay Sep 2018 #2
And THAT MyOwnPeace Sep 2018 #17
The Republican Party has been morally bankrupt for fifty years. olegramps Sep 2018 #13
More straws on the Camels broken back GusBob Sep 2018 #3
"We" made our bed, now we have to lie in it. For 4 years. maxsolomon Sep 2018 #4
No. Iliyah Sep 2018 #5
Be nice if they could squeeze some late breaking Woodward info into empedocles Sep 2018 #6
I am not surprised Gothmog Sep 2018 #7
Woodwards old partner hinted at Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #8
Republicans foisted a piece of dog shit on the American public and called it president dalton99a Sep 2018 #9
Yup. Minority president. Republicons CREATED Trump, ENABLE him & PROTECT him. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2018 #23
Liar liar liar pants on fire! And what do the other repugs say about his constant lying? SWBTATTReg Sep 2018 #10
We're not surprised here on DU NewJeffCT Sep 2018 #11
+1 dalton99a Sep 2018 #12
Why? Nasruddin Sep 2018 #14
The thing that did startle me . . . peggysue2 Sep 2018 #15
Maybe they can just give him a signing pen with disappearing ink? erronis Sep 2018 #18
LOL!! peggysue2 Sep 2018 #22
Let me see, we are talking about an adult male who boasted about groping women grantcart Sep 2018 #16
Bet his personal doctor is supplying the man-child with lots of blue pills. erronis Sep 2018 #19
the chances of him being impotent from Propecia are relatively high grantcart Sep 2018 #25
In regards to Trump, I'm pretty much outraged out. Sadly, his behavior is verging on entertainment jalan48 Sep 2018 #20
McMaster wears cheap suits, said the guy who looks like he shops at Burlington Coat Factory bigbrother05 Sep 2018 #21
Trump has no taste. Worst of nouveau riche. KFC. Gold plating everywhere. Calls WH a dump. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2018 #24
Why or How do people let Woodward inside? underpants Sep 2018 #26

MyOwnPeace

(16,938 posts)
17. And THAT
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:59 PM
Sep 2018

is the true crime of all of this - our elected representatives are allowing this to happen.
The Founding Fathers would be outraged!

Get Out The Vote - it is MOST IMPORTANT!!!!!!

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
13. The Republican Party has been morally bankrupt for fifty years.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:42 PM
Sep 2018

The basic question is will the nation awaken to fact that the Republican Party has been pursueing a fascist agenda for the last fifty years and become aware of the impending threat. Or with this experiment in self government be consigned to the garbage can of history. Perhaps this government will be regarded as an unrealistic experiment in which the citizens' apathy and neglect allowed it to be come nothing more than an interesting aberration. It will be seen in retrospect that the concept of a government of the people, by the people and for the people was nothing more than a romantic delusion of some idealists who didn't appreciate the true nature of mankind. For it is a concept that requires constant involvement and awareness that most can be easily distracted from or assured that their rights will be unchallenged and protected by some unknown force and it will die of natural cause of neglect.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
3. More straws on the Camels broken back
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:13 PM
Sep 2018

We are now just beating the dead camel while lost in a vast desert

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
4. "We" made our bed, now we have to lie in it. For 4 years.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:13 PM
Sep 2018

The wheels of Justice turn slowly when Infinite GOP Money is jamming spanners in the works.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
6. Be nice if they could squeeze some late breaking Woodward info into
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:18 PM
Sep 2018

kavanaught hearings before 'cons could script phony answers, in the hearings.

SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
10. Liar liar liar pants on fire! And what do the other repugs say about his constant lying?
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:05 PM
Sep 2018

Nothing...absolutely nothing. There's our fully functioning Congress for ya!

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
11. We're not surprised here on DU
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:25 PM
Sep 2018

but, the mainstream media keeps acting like it is surprised. So, every little bit helps. Hopefully one of these times, it will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Though, at this point, the camel has a thousand metric tons of straw on its back:

Nasruddin

(754 posts)
14. Why?
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:44 PM
Sep 2018

"it is astonishing that the country has allowed this clownish hustler to remain President for almost two years."

Why is that astonishing? Our constitution really is a suicide pact, despite what
a well-known Republican president once said.

peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
15. The thing that did startle me . . .
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:46 PM
Sep 2018

was the tidbit on aides snatching papers from the Trumpster's desk to prevent him from signing them.

Has that sort of thing ever been reported before???

So they snatch the documents and he doesn't notice? Which is just more evidence of his unfitness. Or his inability to read much of anything.

Amazing!

erronis

(15,335 posts)
18. Maybe they can just give him a signing pen with disappearing ink?
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:15 PM
Sep 2018

Let him scrawl his hen pecks across any old document and then consign the mess to the burn pile. Baby boy is happy, aides are happy, country is happy. Hell of a price to pay for the shafting that the repuglicons/russians foisted on US.

erronis

(15,335 posts)
19. Bet his personal doctor is supplying the man-child with lots of blue pills.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:17 PM
Sep 2018

Without those he'd just be a very old fart masquerading in ill fitting suits.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
25. the chances of him being impotent from Propecia are relatively high
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 04:16 PM
Sep 2018


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2017/02/03/side-effects-of-the-drug-trump-reportedly-takes-for-hair-loss/?utm_term=.38f1b3ac2035

The constellation of potential symptoms, sometimes referred to as post-finasteride syndrome, may include sexual, physical and psychological changes. Of these, the sexual side effects are perhaps the most extensively reported. In fact, in 2012, the Food and Drug Administration announced a label change for Propecia and Proscar, requiring the manufacturer to warn that the medication may be associated with “libido disorders, ejaculation disorders, and orgasm disorders that continued after discontinuation of the drug.”



The older the subject the more likely the side effects will occur.

What makes this incredibly funny is that Trump was outed by his doctor who shouldn't have revealed any of his prescriptions. He has reason to sue the doctor.

The doctor's casual revelation of Trumps heavy use of Propecia and his comment that he couldn't understand why anyone would object to people knowing about being prescribed a hair medicine would seem to indicate that his doctor was unaware of the massive reaction to Propecia and the huge class action law suit that is working its way through litigation.

The side effects are frequently permanent.

jalan48

(13,886 posts)
20. In regards to Trump, I'm pretty much outraged out. Sadly, his behavior is verging on entertainment
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:18 PM
Sep 2018

for many Americans I would guess.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
21. McMaster wears cheap suits, said the guy who looks like he shops at Burlington Coat Factory
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 03:35 PM
Sep 2018

Obviously has defective eyesight as well as an inoperable sense of irony/decency/shame

underpants

(182,883 posts)
26. Why or How do people let Woodward inside?
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 04:19 PM
Sep 2018

but then Woodward left Naval Intelligence to join the Post which was not a big newspaper back then. Never forget that.

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