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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat an eleventh-hour, hail-mary, fly-by-night operation...
Been listening to the MSNBC "breaking news" coverage and then to MSNBC Weekend's Alex Witt (and even Fox intermittently).
They're all trying to hide their astonishment, but making a bad job of it.
I get the distinct impression that the Ryan choice is nothing but a desperate emergency response to some really dire internal polling results.
That they would roll this guy out at 8:30 on a Saturday morning, during the once every-four-year spectacle of the Olympics finale, speaks of disarray and panic.
I can't believe this was their original game plan...
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)TeamPooka
(24,254 posts)cant have that clip running all weekend.
So you roll out the dude you had planned for next week
DURING THE OLYMPICS.
Then you cancel all interviews.
Standard Operating Procedure right?
holy f**king s**t!
BeyondGeography
(39,379 posts)So sure he was that his personal superiority to Obama would be plain as day to economically desperate Americans, the same people he's been rolling over all his life.
But then the punches started coming. He'd seen that before, having run against Teddy Kennedy, but that was a Kennedy, a fellow aristocrat worthy of at least some respect. No way Obama could hit better and harder, no way the American people would buy it...
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)"No way Obama could hit better and harder, no way the American people would buy it"
I bet he doesn't know what's hit him! Probably reeling from the blows--made this choice in a panic.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)his candidacy. "Behold! I am come! To save you from the Black Man and those who care about the poor. I promise to cut my own taxes and reduce middle class workers to servitude. For lo, I shall do for this country as Bain Capital did for the companies I bought. And I shall profit greatly. So let it be written. So let it be done."
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Welcome to the real world, MittWit!
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)He then didn't run for reelection and left office with an approval rating of ~34%.
If he is still that delusional, after his record of almost total failure, he needs the best psychiatrists money can buy. Good thing he can afford them.
I think he does politics as a hobby since he hasn't had a real job since 1999-2002 (we don't really know when he left that job). He is up against professionals now and is out of his league.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)There's some real casework here for a good therapist or shrink. Major Oedipal issues in Mitt's past, I think.
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)I think that is quite right. Who wouldn't want a white bastard over a compassionate black man?
madokie
(51,076 posts)This white man loves my Black President, thank you
lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)My exact thought when I heard the news. They're going down and this is a last-ditch attempt to "win." I mean, why feign an image of political savvy when you can put all your right-wing poison into one vessel just in case you actually pull it off. Like the kid who grabs all the cookies in the cookie jar instead of just one because he knows he has almost no chance of getting out of the kitchen unnoticed by mom.
Besides, there's always Diebold and voter suppression...
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)I sure as hell hope the O campaign is well lawyered up and ready to take preemptive action in the face of voter suppression and election fraud!!
MADem
(135,425 posts)That's right on the money, IMO.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Hi there MADem! How're things...
MADem
(135,425 posts)All well with me--hope you're doing well, yourself!
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)Glad to hear all is well with you and yours. We survived a terribly difficult knee replacement surgery. All is well here, too.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)that they are willing to debate Ryan's budget.
aka
Damn this frying pan is hot, we should jump down into that fire!
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)the deficit, the implicit, unspoken sub-text will be Mitt's tax status! Delicious!
MADem
(135,425 posts)When the Catholic Bishops don't like the Ryan budget, that's problematic for Ryan and RMoney!
He'd be longing for the days that they talk about his taxes...if he could get them off that subject.
I think they're all of a piece--one lies about his taxes, the other tries to get them lowered for rich folk like his New Boss!
dixvilleninotchka
(5 posts)So it's time to move up the VP announcement and make it Ryan for the surprise! factor.
It won't stop the taxes/millions/offshore accounts nightmare that Willard has been unable to shut down, it will give him a few days break from it, a week at most.
It will temporarily mollify some of the tea baggers and they will come out and vote for these idiots so they'll get some poll bumps.
It won't win them the election.
With any luck it will not only dig the Republican loss even deeper for this year in Florida (among other places), but poison Ryan's political future so he won't be able to get any traction on 2016. People have some strange ideas about Ryan. They're about to get enlightened.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)to god's ears...
"With any luck it will not only dig the Republican loss even deeper for this year in Florida (among other places), but poison Ryan's political future so he won't be able to get any traction on 2016."
P.S. And a big welcome to DU! Excellent post!
dixvilleninotchka
(5 posts)CrispyQ
(36,509 posts)Fuckin' A! I can't stand that little shit. He's so fuckin' smug, I just want to smack his smugness off his face.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)without any redeeming personal qualities.
He's sure to be a hit on the campaign trail--Not! Except among the mouth-breathers, of course.
MADem
(135,425 posts)to the late and tortured Seamus), or he'll be regarded as the "hero" who did all he could, but was bested by forces beyond his control, to rescue a dogshit campaign.
Good thing Ryan has what's called a "strong nose"--he'll need it for all the brown-nosing he's going to have to do in the next eighty some odd days.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)come out of this!
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)price of one.
Give the "coup de grace" to Rmoney's faltering campaign and cripple Ryan as a future political force.
underpants
(182,878 posts)a Saturday in the middle of August? The last weekend of the Olympics?
They should have had this ready to go 3 weeks ago to kill of the tax return story and they clearly waited a few extra days so that Ryan could finish his vacation.
Newsies like us will follow this but for most people the first reaction will be "Who is Paul Ryan?" the second reaction will be "Is he old enough to be President?"
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)wasn't in their game plan at the beginning of the week. Then came those polls.
I'm sure they would've preferred to wait for the Olympics to be over and to have the media stage to themselves.
The whold thing just smells of disorganized planning on the fly.
BumRushDaShow
(129,446 posts)Ryan told reporters here that he is taking his family to Colorado, beginning Saturday, for a weeklong trip during the summer congressional recess.
"I'm just doing my August schedule as I planned my August," Ryan said, adding that he will first spend the next two days campaigning in Northwest Wisconsin for local candidates.
Friday, Ryan said he will spend the day in his native Janesville preparing for his trip by getting his tent and backpack ready.
Are they idiotic amateurs or what?
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)made on the fly!
Panasonic
(2,921 posts)Because of the budget and the fact that Ryan brings absolutely zero to Romney's policies.
Polls will dive, and the only way Romney wins if the black boxes give them the "edge".
It is not going to happen. Romney is so out of touch and so unpopular, that he is the Lurch the Fucking Stiff.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)risk big in hopes of winning big...but, this is obviously ill-timed and ill-conceived. They have no idea how this will play out on the national stage.
Lurch the Fucking Stiff (LOL) did this in extremis to "shock paddle" his campaign back to life.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Will Pawlenty keep being the obedient surrogate? We'll see...
bigtree
(86,005 posts)This has been a clumsy, ill-conceived, amateurish roll-out. It resembles the rest of the Romney campaign's mediocrity and shallowness. You hit the nail on the head . . . this is as an inept and clueless presentation as is reflected by the candidate, himself. It's stunning in it's incompetence.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)reflection of what we've come to expect from the Rmoney team--crass incompetence and flagrant insincerity.
The fake smiles and false bonhomie were cringe-making.
If you didn't know better, you could have mistaken it for a student council election rally at the local high school. Just not ready for prime time!
The Second Stone
(2,900 posts)He has no broadening appeal. This is an implicit concession that they will probably lose, but want to energize the base to go vote down ticket.