news clip about Gillium, no matter how short it is, featuring Sanders,

WHY?

The media spins and spins. I am sick of it.

Refuse to understand that the base of the Democratic Party in the South is African Americans.

No white man is responsible for Gillum’s win. The base of our party in Florida gets that credit. The same group that should get credit for both of President Obama’s general election wins as well.

This middle aged white guy is happy to admit that and am equally happy to work to insure that Gillum is our next governor.

I was a Graham supporter but am now all in for Gillum and I am excited about the prospect of our first African American governor.

Florida and Georgia!

We can do this, Gulf Coast. Yes we can!

Here in Florida in the week since the primary Gillum has impressed with his calm vision.

DeSantis went full racist and has not been heard from since. They do not know what to do. Full out racism will not work in Florida like in Alabama. But they got nothing else.

That's what the media is telling us anyway.

Those white supremacist's were right!

...and you pulled a headline from THE NATION, a publication that advocates for left-wing policie advocated by Bernie Sanders. Every newspaper I saw focused on Gillum in their title.

You must not watch the news much. Every feed said Sanders backed...Gillum won.... ad nauseum

Want a few?

Google Search...2 seconds flat


Sanders-backed Gillum notches Florida primary stunner - POLITICO
https://www.politico.com/.../arizona-florida-primaries-trump-elections-governor-senat...
Aug 28, 2018 - Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum delivered an upset victory in Florida's Democratic gubernatorial primary Tuesday night, toppling several ...

Sanders-backed progressive Andrew Gillum will win ... - CNN.com
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/28/politics/arizona-florida-primary-senate.../index.html
7 days ago - Bernie Sanders and a coalition of progressive groups, Gillum upset .... Arpaio's campaign ended in a fizzle, while Ward attracted headlines as ...

Sanders-backed Gillum upsets Dem field in Fla governor's race
https://www.mercurynews.com/.../sanders-backed-gillum-upsets-dem-field-in-florida-...
Aug 28, 2018 - Tallahassee mayor will face Trump favorite DeSantis in November.

Gillum wins stunner and other takeaways from Arizona, Florida | TheHill
thehill.com/.../404104-sanders-backed-gillum-wins-stunner-and-4-other-takeaways-fr...
7 days ago - The huge upset victory by progressive Andrew Gillum in Florida's Democratic primary for governor stole the headlines on Tuesday night, showcasing yet again ... It was also a much needed one after several Sanders-backed .

Andrew Gillum: Sanders-backed progressive could become Florida's ...
https://www.independent.co.uk › News › World › Americas
7 days ago - A progressive, Bernie Sanders-backed Democrat could become Florida's ...

Andrew Gillum, current mayor of Tallahassee secured his party's ...
Sanders-Backed Black Mayor or Trump-Backed Congressman: Which ...
www.governing.com/.../tns-andrew-gillum-wins-democratic-nomination-florida-gove...
7 days ago - Andrew Gillum, a 39-year-old liberal who with the help of progressive political organizations surged in the last weeks of his campaign to upset a ...


Gillum wins stunner and other takeaways from Arizona, Florida
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gillum-wins-stunner.../ar-BBMA4So
7 days ago - The huge upset victory by progressive Andrew Gillum in Florida's Democratic primary for governor stole the headlines on Tuesday night, ... It was also a much needed one after several Sanders-backed candidates lost their ...


Andrew Gillum, a Black Progressive Backed by Bernie Sanders, Wins ...
https://www.democracynow.org/.../headlines/andrew_gillum_a_black_progressive_ba...
Andrew Gillum, a Black Progressive Backed by Bernie Sanders, Wins Florida Gubernatorial Primary. HeadlineAug 29, 2018. H2 gillum primary win. In Florida ...


Sanders-backed progressive Andrew Gillum will win ... - WTKR.com
https://wtkr.com/.../sanders-backed-progressive-andrew-gillum-will-win-florida-demo...
Aug 28, 2018 - Sanders-backed progressive Andrew Gillum will win Florida Democratic .... His campaign ended in a fizzle, as Ward attracted headlines as the ...

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=71CPW4_gDOWE_Qbpoaq4Bg&q=Headlines%3A++Sanders+backed...Gillum&btnK=Google+Search&oq=Headlines%3A++Sanders+backed...Gillum&gs_l=psy-ab.3...2562.45085..48413...2.0..0.142.2767.37j1......0....1..gws-wiz.....6..0j35i39j0i131j0i22i30j33i21j33i160.yptUa-Q99RY

If one searches Google using "Gillum" alone, the result is articles about Gillum with scant if any mention of Sanders and none with Sanders in the headline.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=wViPW7bDAtCotQXmmqKwDg&q=Gillum&btnK=Google+Search&oq=Gillum&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i3j0i131l2j0l7.105.1939..5235...0.0..0.1310.4577.6-4j1......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0i10.YR0iNRJztXI

If one searches Google using "Gillum Sanders", one gets a bunch of articles with Gillum and Sanders in the headline.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=I1mPW6aDN5C2swW_y6eYDw&q=gillum+sanders&btnK=Google+Search&oq=gillum+sanders&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l2j0i22i30.1175.4940..9151...0.0..1.1451.12927.5-5j9j2......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0i131j0i3j0i10.35vc8ae8fqI


If one searches Google using "Gillum wins Florida", there is one article of 14 that mentions Sanders in the headline.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=plqPW7PAAoPAsAWz5be4AQ&q=Gillum+wins+florida&btnK=Google+Search&oq=Gillum+wins+florida&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0.1978.6973..9328...0.0..1.696.13751.1j5-21......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0i131j0i3j0i10j0i22i30.PHjH2LZjBiE

Looks to me that you biased the results of your Google search by your search terms " Headlines: Sanders backed...Gillum" No wonder your results all included Sanders. How is your post other than divisive?

And about 5% of them knowing the name Gillum, and that's AFTER he won.

And newspapers/news web sites are ... ASTOUNDING as it is to consider ... profit-driven enterprises.

Ergo, throwing in the names of famous US characters ... drives up profits.

Nope, it can't be that.

It's gotta be racial/sexist.

This division right now ... is really not what we need. IMHO.

That is where I saw for more than 24 hours!

I guess no one here watches CNN.

You say...

You searched for "Headlines: Sanders backed...Gillum" and then act surprise when your search results all include Sanders?

I read DU near daily so get that you do not like Sanders.

Sanders served a purpose in opening peoples eyes in the 2016 POTUS campaign to issues within the Democratic Party that should be addressed.

You post crapola that divides Democrats everyday.

I actually do not think your agenda is to divide Democrats but that is the effect (that you do not appear to perceive).

Then you bully other posters that have different opinions.

Look at the google search for Gillum wins Florida. There are a variety of national local media (NYT, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, Rolling Stone, several FLA newspapers, and theroot and thehill in the first page of the results. Only thehill mentioned Sanders.

You posted misleading search results. Note I am not saying that Resistance type supporters do not exist and support Gillum nor that Rersistance folks may offer the Gillum win as part of their agenda but Gillum is a solid Democrat and, as others noted, Gillum's strength in winning was among HRC voters (and Gillum was a HRC supporter).

Perhaps you should apologize to DU for posting a biased search and offering it as evidence?

I have been a consistent member of the Democratic Party and Democratic voter for nearly 50 years.

I apologize to you for not having identical thoughts to you and for pointing out that you posted a biased google search and offered it as evidence to others at DU.

Nite nite.

"Tuesday's other big winner: Bernie Sanders"

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/29/bernie-sanders-florida-primary-2018-801681


Mr. Weeks
@MrDane1982


Andrew Gillum just made it clear on Don Lemon that by no means is he affiliated with Bernie Sanders! He took that endorsement he made it very clear he was a Hillary Clinton supporter, delegate, vice presidential contender. Stop giving credit to a white man for a black man hard.
3:04 PM - Aug 29, 2018

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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211093797#post6477

Cha

Tried the other way and twitter wouldn't load.

Will try that. Cha

Link to tweet

and just won this primary probably with many HRC voters.

I am not supporting Sanders (I did in POTUS primary) nor the Resistance (ever).

The problem I have was that you offered as "proof" to your argument a biased google search that included "Sanders" in the search string. If one does not include "Sanders", but rather "Gillum wins FLA" or just "Gillum", there are very few headlines that include Sanders.

You don't think that working in tandem or teams against other posters at DU is not a form of bullying?

Please explain how your google search supports your argument in the OP.

Good night to you.

nite

calls ".. the Democratic Party the party of 1% and Not of workers."

And, insults like that.. that is Divisive.

in this and similar matters. It is up to individual candidates and those that chose to vote or not vote for the candidates who should care.

I would not know the term Resistance were it not for DU. I also find the Resistance divisive. I find hanging on to the failed campaign of HRC also divisive and we likely differ there.

I do agree that the Resistance type folks take credit for elections where credit may not be earned. Gillum is a good example as Gillum was a HRC supporter and won this recent primary with voters that voted Clinton.

What I did was point out that the OP offered a biased google search when google searchers without the bias say Gillum and not the Sander's supported Gillum. All I did was try to replicate the google search offered by the OP and could only get the same result if I added Sanders to the search string.

Wish some folks would be more productive than being stuck on Sanders. That is past and hopefully very over.

I wish BS weren't so divisive.

I wish that some folks would stop the near daily drum beat that makes Sanders so divisive. Personally I would never want the opportunity to vote for Sanders again unless I was to move to Vermont (which is not going to happen).

Note my comment was nothing about Sanders but how the OP offered a google search that was biased as evidence. I get that Sanders annoys some. I agree that a 3rd party taking credit for an election success that is a Democratic Party success is annoying.

My entire point in this exchange was that the OP offered as evidence a google search that was biased. If one searches for Gillum Sanders in FLA on gets Gillum Sanders articles but if one searches for Gillum without the Sanders search term, headlines (and articles) with Sanders and Gillum are rare to nonexistent. Just look at the searches I posted.

Democratic Party that should be addressed. "

And his timing was fantastic. The 2016 POTUS campaign was SUCH a perfect moment to address issues within the Democratic party. Just what the nation needed. Winning didn't matter as much as sticking it to that crooked Democratic Party. So what if it helped to bring on the current nightmare we are enduring?

a clip of Sanders

Thanks, lunamagica.

this is apparently all a figment of our imaginations.

Lol! I hate the news, disagree with them much of the time. Yet I am divisive for what the media is saying. Oy!

It's only natural that your win is framed as a *win* for a guy who endorsed you in the tail end of your campaign.

Link to tweet

another person seeing something we're told they didn't actually see....

ahead and trust my eyes, Don Lemon's & Andrew Gillum's

Oh, and LO'D!

Link to tweet

What makes Gillum special are his talents and skills, which were good enough to get him on a list of potential VP candidates. It's not about crediting Hillary but crediting Gillum and letting Gillum be the focus.

But Lawrence's point is a good one- Gillum was already accepted into the party, Gillum wasn't part of some "progressive vs establishment" factional fight. He was already a solid Democrat who earned his stripes.

just mad at the m$media. Just wanted to set the record straight on that manufactured meme.

It's all Andrew.. and I bet Hillary feels the same.

Well put on LO'D point, JH!

Yet watching that night and it was non stop!

is far from a true statement. That is the result of a search where Sanders is one of the search terms.

Read that then the OP again.

you posted a biased google search to offer as evidence.

I am glad that Gillum won. If I was a FLA voter, he would have had my vote.

Or, "Julian Castro-endorsed Andrew Gillum wins . . . "

"Headlines: Sanders backed...Gillum"

No wonder Sanders was in the search results.

Just the OP doing what the OP does.

so good to see your cheery self here again. I have missed you! lol~

Link to tweet

Was trying to find that one.

Please may I post this upthread to another????

Please!

so besieged by the BS thing that he had to make it clear to Don Lemon that NO..

Link to tweet

Nobody likes it when it happens to them. These Justintime Democrats or whatever they call themselves are damaging their reputation. Who can trust people like that?

Justintime Democrats...lol, that covers it. Very new group, just in time.

OT...hope you are safe!!!

Typhoon went by quickly, but for a couple of hours the winds were so strong I was afraid the sliding glass doors would break, the glass was practically bending. The streets were littered with leaves and branches and roof tiles, but today everything back to normal.

I hope you were staying far away from those doors.

The power of the storm. Beautiful, yet frightening.

Justintime Democrats!

I saw less of it with Abrams who was leading in polls pretty much throughout the campaign but the other two were pretty blatant. Gillum got some late financial help from Steyer and some others but as you point out in the early money was all from African American PACs. Ayanna got no help from outside money as far as I can see and she just got more votes. Of the three I think she got the largest percentage of white voters but all three combined liberal white vote with a huge African American turnout to win.

We are in MA. The other two, deep south.

She isn't my district so only paid attention to her the last few days. I think she will be great.

PS...I got to vote for Joe Kennedy III

At the same time. Poor Gilliam couldn't win without the old White man from Vermont. Bernie wants to be the Presidential candidate for the party he says is so messed up.

He is convinced the deplorables will vote for him.

White Fragility

I got it Quayblue.

I had to respond as short as i could.

Yeah and I am tired and confused taking care of mom these days.

I knew it was you and was like, say what!?

Hugs~

no matter what the media says. It actually looks to me as though Democrats may be rejecting white men in record numbers this year.

The media is really pissing me off again.

He can do this and so can Stacy. Two AA Governors.

but I'll sure be happy to vote for Gillum. I think he has a good chance. DeSantis has gone dirty already and people are tired of that.

All I can do is watch and cheer!

I don't think Bernie had much to do with the result.

before Bernie jumped onboard.

that particular nugget before.

which increases ad revenue.

Trying to claim conflict where none exists is a great way to do this, and egging on said conflict also benefits them. A unified Democratic party doesn't make them money.

Add to this the racist assumption that POC can't make it on their own, and you have a recipe for the news media trying to take credit away from POCs in favor of more prominent people on the national stage who are mostly white.

for example:

Dem Candidate 1: I support these great policies, and will work to implement them.
Dem Candidate 2: I support these great policies, and will work to implement them. Btw I also kinda like Bernie.

Media: And we're off! In this race for the soul of the democratic party.... WHO WILL WIN? Will the establishment Dem Candidate 1 fight off the Progressive wing of the party's Dem Candidate 2? ??? Stay tuned!!!!!!!



(There are also political operatives playing their little dominance games, who feed this drama, so there's that too)

unifying, while some agitators, what could be called the "old guard" of the party and some of the newcomers, who are more left, are more interested in fighting each other rather than the Republican party. Granted, I think we are seeing a huge amplification effect that is the internet at large, and boards like DU definitely exacerbate this supposed divide. Sometimes there are significant policy differences, especially when it comes to things such as M4all, etc. other times not. Its a changing of the guard, and a shift of the party to the left.

I remember the fights over Conyers, Kucinich and Sanders when they were able to get barely a dozen Democrats to sign on to a M4all bill or even position. That was a decade ago, and the party has definitely shifted, for the better.

And there will always be moderates - often people aren't either or but rather a mixed bag.

For example I don't think supporting M4forAll as it is currently presented by Sanders makes one more of a Democrat, than someone who has yet to be convinced it's workable currently and wants to adopt a more incremental approach ( Like protecting the ACA which is currently under serious attack and making sure we attach a public option to it first, with MF4all being a voluntary buy-in)

On big policy issues like health care, I take the side of incrementalism. Many like myself who adopt this approach get accused of being sell outs. So there's a purity standard going on that's selective in its application. Good progressives and liberals get smeared in the crossfire and it destroys the democratic party brand.

isn't a magic bullet that will pay all their medical bills.

The ACA would have worked very well if it had been adopted in all states. Republicans didn't want it to work.

and then blamed Obama for what they'd done.

A key part in M4all, at least most versions of it I've seen is expanding what is covered by Medicare to all medically necessary procedures and treatments, and to remove most of the adulteration and privatization schemes that have become attached to it over the years that have increased costs for Medicare users.

who haven't ever dealt with Medicare and I think you'll find many of them think Medicare pays all the bills. That's what I was referring to, not policymakers who understand it.

Shouldn't the question be why does political media, yes even liberal media feel compelled to try and boil complex 3 dimensional situations into 2 dimensional caricature shadows of a mosaic?

Two possibilities;

They are stupid

They think we are stupid


Now when you add race to it everything becomes even more distorted and there is a desperate need to insert "decent white person" into the formula because a story completely framed by an intelligent beautiful black young person isn't an approved "box".

Its as if there are just so many little boxes and they have to fit every story onto some pre determined box.

President Barack Hussein Obama was simply too talented for a box but they tried.

Like so many good things in life.

That's how my kids describe most Hollywood movies and boy do I see it in just about every one of them now! This sorta fits that idea. Some white people just can't fathom a person of color actually being center stage...unless invited by a white person. Really messed up thinking.

Congratulations to all these winners. Gives me hope seeing progressive Democrats winning.

I tell you Cha...I am really looking forward to November as some light is showing at the end of a very dark tunnel. We have some very talented people winning in all the right places.

Thanks for the highlights from Joan's article. Love her and agree with all she said.

Blue wave~

Did not stun or surprise me. jhan posted yesterday about Ms. Pressley's thoughts on "of the people and by the people" and her identity. She ran towards how she has experienced America.

She ran towards it - and she won.

I'm pretty sure they would have. The media thrives on turning all matters of substance into horse races between one side and another. They thrive on division. They have much to gain by promoting splits between Democrats. It is one of their themes this year to talk about a struggle between the Clinton and Sanders "wings" of the Democratic Party. Hell, we do some of that here ourselves with our constant scorecards on how well "Our Revolution" endorsed candidates have done in primaries, regardless of race.

Which is not to say that there is no truth in your larger observation. It does happen. And yes, Andrew, Stacy, and Ayanna are all excellent candidates who will make us proud in office.

Generated enthusiasm among the base and have great ideas. I am suspicious of anyone who credits their victories to others.

and I am biting my tongue, sheshe. Yet in amerika, who is struggling to maintain the illusions of.....I think we know. I 100% agree with this assessment.

Both the media and Justice Democrats love the Dems in Disarray narrative. Ayanna Pressley, Stacey Abrams, and Andrew Gillam won because they ignore that BS. Media will always media, but Justice Democrats should take note.

PoC are on to this game and are NOT having it. And they are going to continue to win. Full credit where credit due, in the hard work and dedication and winning against all odds.