Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 02:32 PM Sep 2018

Leahy: "We have discovered evidence that Judge Kavanaugh misled the Senate"

Sen. Patrick Leahy
?
Verified account

@SenatorLeahy

We have discovered evidence that Judge Kavanaugh misled the Senate during his 2004 and 2006 hearings. Truthfulness under oath is not an optional qualification for a Supreme Court nominee. Watch as I question him here:


46 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Leahy: "We have discovered evidence that Judge Kavanaugh misled the Senate" (Original Post) Miles Archer Sep 2018 OP
Well, it's optional if you are a Republican. bitterross Sep 2018 #1
More like mandatory ailsagirl Sep 2018 #24
At work, can't watch videos, what is this about? 4139 Sep 2018 #2
The link below provides a text based description from Sen. Leahy's Senate.gov site NorCen_CT Sep 2018 #4
Premise of it.... Roland99 Sep 2018 #6
Details.... Roland99 Sep 2018 #8
Thank you so much, Roland99. This should be damning and disqualifying. erronis Sep 2018 #11
SHOULD be, but shoulds seem to no longer apply. Hopefully this will get the electorate stirred up Amaryllis Sep 2018 #38
You know what? lpbk2713 Sep 2018 #45
If he lied under oath and gets in, a future Dem congress can impeach him. (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2018 #41
This is big. Are Republicans going to publicly endorse repeated hacking of Democrats? lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #25
I think that ship has sailed. Danascot Sep 2018 #36
"Truthfulness under oath is not an optional qualification" gratuitous Sep 2018 #3
Now we know what they're hiding. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2018 #5
"Nomination...to be an Ass" Retrograde Sep 2018 #7
I hope they burn his butt with this! FakeNoose Sep 2018 #9
K&R burrowowl Sep 2018 #10
Some video Miles Archer Sep 2018 #12
Truth is optional if you are president, so why not a SCOTUS nominee? Augiedog Sep 2018 #13
Evidence that Kavanaugh was centrally involved with judicial rigging bigbrother05 Sep 2018 #14
...but never "activist judges." klook Sep 2018 #44
"They need to be made public now, before it's too late." AndJusticeForSome Sep 2018 #15
As I watched it, I didnt see what could be proven as a lie. 7962 Sep 2018 #16
Everything becomes optional when 50 votes exist.... getagrip_already Sep 2018 #17
We have no options except to stand by our values. saidsimplesimon Sep 2018 #18
never said we shouldn't fight it.. getagrip_already Sep 2018 #19
wow, I just posted this yesterday. saidsimplesimon Sep 2018 #22
It establishes grounds for impeachment Nevernose Sep 2018 #30
Yes it does...once at least one branch of govt is in Democratic hands pecosbob Sep 2018 #37
Since it occurred before he was confirmed... getagrip_already Sep 2018 #43
Senator? Can you please be this guy for a minute, sir? Initech Sep 2018 #20
With a Democratic majority in both houses we might be able to impeach him at some future date. Nitram Sep 2018 #21
Remember: Truth isn't truth OMGWTF Sep 2018 #23
Is it possible to impeach a nominee? :-) C_U_L8R Sep 2018 #26
actually, he can be impeached from his current job as a federal district court of appeals judge. unblock Sep 2018 #46
If they can prove it tomorrow during questioning drray23 Sep 2018 #27
The goal Dunnjen Sep 2018 #32
I think the proper word is lied. Nt. drray23 Sep 2018 #28
So what? SergeStorms Sep 2018 #29
Kick dalton99a Sep 2018 #31
k & r Achilleaze Sep 2018 #33
Senator Hirono absolutely wasted the KKK guy. MAZIE FOR PRESIDENT !!!! pangaia Sep 2018 #34
I don't just want him disqualified ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #35
You want him Borked Generic Brad Sep 2018 #39
+1 forever and ever stopwastingmymoney Sep 2018 #40
Prosecuted for perjury. And conspiracy. McCamy Taylor Sep 2018 #42
 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
1. Well, it's optional if you are a Republican.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 02:35 PM
Sep 2018

Truthfulness under oath is not an optional qualification for a Supreme Court nominee.

Let's be real. It's totally optional for all Republicans in all situations.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
6. Premise of it....
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 02:47 PM
Sep 2018
Between 2001 and 2003, two Republican staffers on the Senate Judiciary Committee regularly hacked into the private computer files of six Democratic senators, including me. They stole 4,670 files, and they used them to assist in getting President Bush’s most controversial judicial nominees confirmed. This became public in late 2003 when The Wall Street Journal happened to print some of the stolen materials.

The ringleader behind this massive theft was a Republican Senate staffer named Manny Miranda. The scandal amounted to a digital Watergate — a theft not unlike Russia’s hacking of the DNC.

During all of this, Judge Kavanaugh worked in the White House Counsel’s Office on judicial nominations. He worked hand-in-hand with Miranda to advance these same controversial nominees. Not surprisingly, Judge Kavanaugh was asked extensively about his knowledge of the theft during both his 2004 and 2006 hearings. And I mean extensively: 111 questions from six senators, both Republicans and Democrats.

He testified under oath — and he testified repeatedly — that he never received any stolen materials, and that he knew nothing about it until it was public. He testified that if he had suspected anything “untoward” he would have reported it. At the time, we left it there. We didn’t have evidence to suggest otherwise.

Today, with the limited amount of Judge Kavanaugh’s White House record that has been provided to the Judiciary Committee, for the first time we have been able to learn some information about his knowledge of this theft.

Here is a description of the three emails that have been made public. There are many more that have been hidden from public scrutiny under a faulty claim of committee confidentiality. I suspect there are even more that were never released to the committee at all, based on the partisan and woefully incomplete document production.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
8. Details....
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 02:48 PM
Sep 2018
Miranda email exposing what I was going to ask a controversial nominee at her coming confirmation hearing.
On July 19, 2002, Mr. Miranda sent Judge Kavanaugh and another Bush official an email asking why the “Leahy people” were looking into financial ties between two special interest groups and Priscilla Owen, a particularly controversial nominee to the Fifth Circuit. Judge Kavanaugh was the point person in the White House for the Owen nomination. Then, two days before her hearing, Miranda shared that the Democrats were “passing around” a related 60 Minutes story. He also said, “Intel suggests that Leahy will focus on all things money.”
This “intel” was stolen. In fact, it appears to have originated with a memo I received from my staff the night before Miranda sent it to Judge Kavanaugh.

Miranda email disclosing private draft letter of mine before any mention of it was public.
In January 2003, Mr. Miranda forwarded to Judge Kavanaugh a private letter from me and other Judiciary Democrats to then-Majority Leader Tom Daschle. This letter was a draft, and obviously so. Someone eventually leaked its existence to Fox News. This was a private letter, and at the time I was shocked to learn its existence had been leaked. But here’s the thing: Judge Kavanaugh had the full text of my letter in his inbox before any reference to the letters existence was leaked to the press.
This letter was big news in the judicial nominations world at the time. And Judge Kavanaugh was a main player in that world. He would have known that he received this letter before it was in the press.

Miranda wanted to meet privately, off-site, with Judge Kavanaugh and another Bush official to hand-deliver documents related to Senators Feinstein and Biden.
Judge Kavanaugh said at the time he couldn’t make it, but wanted to discuss it later.
Only part of this chain has been made public. Additional emails raise further suspicion.
Judge Kavanaugh disclosed in his testimony today that he may have met privately with Miranda on other occasions.

There are numerous other committee confidential emails that shed light on Judge Kavanaugh’s relationship with Miranda. They need to be made public now, before it’s too late. They raise serious questions about Judge Kavanaugh’s claim that he never suspected he benefited from this massive hacking of Democratic files. And they also raise questions about his truthfulness under oath in response to the 111 questions he received on this topic the last time he was before the Judiciary Committee.

Senator Grassley has assured me he will release these documents for my questions tomorrow.

erronis

(15,306 posts)
11. Thank you so much, Roland99. This should be damning and disqualifying.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 02:57 PM
Sep 2018

Let's see if the US is a country with a real rule of law of just another banana republic with those bananas stuffing their pants as fast as they can.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
38. SHOULD be, but shoulds seem to no longer apply. Hopefully this will get the electorate stirred up
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 08:52 PM
Sep 2018

enough that they will keep ringing the phones off the hook of their congress critters.

lpbk2713

(42,760 posts)
45. You know what?
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 09:21 AM
Sep 2018


I hate to disappoint, but I've seen it time after time. The MSM consistently puts stories like this on the back burner when the GOP might have something to lose. They will find something else more newsworthy. If not make something up.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
25. This is big. Are Republicans going to publicly endorse repeated hacking of Democrats?
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:11 PM
Sep 2018

Are Republicans going to go on record as proudly corrupt thieves?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. "Truthfulness under oath is not an optional qualification"
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 02:35 PM
Sep 2018

Simple, direct, to the point. Say it. Say it again. Say it over and over until even the highly-paid media slowcoaches get it. It's not that difficult a concept, and Sen. Leahy has laid it out in eight words.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
7. "Nomination...to be an Ass"
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 02:47 PM
Sep 2018

I'm sure this was an unintentional shortening of the title of that report, but it seems, well, rather telling.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
14. Evidence that Kavanaugh was centrally involved with judicial rigging
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 03:31 PM
Sep 2018

The GOP has always sought to pack the courts with ideologues and sycophants.

AndJusticeForSome

(537 posts)
15. "They need to be made public now, before it's too late."
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 03:31 PM
Sep 2018

...says a committee member with access to the documents. Damn the "Committee Confidential" caveat in such a dire situation!

From Roland99's post #8 above:


There are numerous other committee confidential emails that shed light on Judge Kavanaugh’s relationship with Miranda. They need to be made public now, before it’s too late. They raise serious questions about Judge Kavanaugh’s claim that he never suspected he benefited from this massive hacking of Democratic files.


https://www.leahy.senate.gov/press/090518kavanaughday2questions
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
16. As I watched it, I didnt see what could be proven as a lie.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 03:41 PM
Sep 2018

Maybe theres evidence that wasnt mentioned during testimony.
And I'm NOT a lawyer.

getagrip_already

(14,768 posts)
17. Everything becomes optional when 50 votes exist....
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 03:43 PM
Sep 2018

And no doubt, they do. Anything short of a convicition putting him in a state prison for life would derail this nomination.

And that may not even do it. They might still confirm him and let him send his votes in via his lawyer.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
18. We have no options except to stand by our values.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 03:50 PM
Sep 2018

Sure, the odds may not be in our favor. It's the fight for the Republic that makes it worth all costs. imo

getagrip_already

(14,768 posts)
19. never said we shouldn't fight it..
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 03:52 PM
Sep 2018

Just that it is a Don Quixote moment for us.

The gop is so hypocritical they will still vote to confirm. Just because it will spite the dems.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
22. wow, I just posted this yesterday.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:01 PM
Sep 2018

A tribute to Senator Ted Kennedy. (NO, I have not forgotten his past criminal acts.) Redemption

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="

?rel=0" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
30. It establishes grounds for impeachment
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:46 PM
Sep 2018

The moment the makeup of the senate is somewhat rational and/or representative again.

getagrip_already

(14,768 posts)
43. Since it occurred before he was confirmed...
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 08:51 AM
Sep 2018

you might not be able to impeach him as seated scotus member. You would have better luck impeaching him from his appelate court post, which would bar him from any further government service.

Remember, he would be a voting member of scotus, and can overturn any court actions. Impeachment is political, so it has a chance, but only if 2/3 of the senate concur.

Impeachment rarely succeeds. Just look at trump.

C_U_L8R

(45,004 posts)
26. Is it possible to impeach a nominee? :-)
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:17 PM
Sep 2018

Either way, we can damn well prosecute while he's there under oath.

unblock

(52,262 posts)
46. actually, he can be impeached from his current job as a federal district court of appeals judge.
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 11:49 AM
Sep 2018

and should be, if indeed he lied during the confirmation process for that job.

drray23

(7,634 posts)
27. If they can prove it tomorrow during questioning
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:18 PM
Sep 2018

This ought to force kavanaugh ti withdraw. He is lucky the Democrats dont control the committee otherwise he could be slapped with comptempt of congress.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
29. So what?
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:58 PM
Sep 2018

We have evidence that our "elected" president is a traitorous, money laundering, criminal liar.

Try, just try to get a Republican to do what's right and stop that son-of-a-bitch before he completely ruins our country, or perhaps the world.

The Republicans are still going to railroad Kavanaugh through and there isn't a damned thing we can do about it.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
34. Senator Hirono absolutely wasted the KKK guy. MAZIE FOR PRESIDENT !!!!
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:58 PM
Sep 2018

It was a thing of beauty..

Never have heard her before. She is smart as a whip, sharp as a tack.

And KKK is just fucking liar, to say nothing about being plain stupid.

And and outright racist...

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
35. I don't just want him disqualified
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 07:03 PM
Sep 2018

I want him entirely ruined for the rest of his life. I want him utterly humiliated forever and ever.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Leahy: "We have discovere...