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syringis

(5,101 posts)
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 03:49 PM Sep 2018

I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

We work for the president but we have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.
President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.

It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.

The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

I would know. I am one of them.

To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.

But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.


More here :

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html
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I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration (Original Post) syringis Sep 2018 OP
Bullshit !!! SamKnause Sep 2018 #1
+1. NT enough Sep 2018 #18
+1000 superpatriotman Sep 2018 #24
Agreed. These fuckers are more interested in salvaging that rotting carcass of Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2018 #30
This yuiyoshida Sep 2018 #52
+ A Lot n/t AndJusticeForSome Sep 2018 #53
This is what I wrote on the article: joshcryer Sep 2018 #54
Great answer! syringis Sep 2018 #74
Right on! Wawannabe Sep 2018 #109
+ 10000 ! syringis Sep 2018 #71
+1, this would be a great canary test. Something Red Don would put forward to out a leaker uponit7771 Sep 2018 #93
I agree. SergeStorms Sep 2018 #97
Caution! GetRidOfThem Sep 2018 #95
My thoughts exactly Opbrg Sep 2018 #103
Yeah, this is purely about protecting the Republican Party. Garrett78 Sep 2018 #111
That's all well and fine True Dough Sep 2018 #2
The article is about a Republican who is resisting NewJeffCT Sep 2018 #12
WTF? thegoose Sep 2018 #3
Three words for the purported author gratuitous Sep 2018 #4
Oh yes. Yes, yes, yes. n/t AndJusticeForSome Sep 2018 #55
Agreed! syringis Sep 2018 #72
Well, ellie Sep 2018 #5
Great reply, lol AndJusticeForSome Sep 2018 #57
Bull's eye ! syringis Sep 2018 #73
Trump has delivered some major wins for Republicans. Huge wins. NCTraveler Sep 2018 #6
The tax cuts alone were a massive win for them. joshcryer Sep 2018 #38
The way you frame that is exactly right. NCTraveler Sep 2018 #56
Wow Happyhippychick Sep 2018 #7
Textual analysis should be sufficient to identify the author jberryhill Sep 2018 #8
That was my first thought as well, but janx Sep 2018 #19
I noticed that as well AndJusticeForSome Sep 2018 #59
Nikki Haley scheming daemons Sep 2018 #35
If anyone in his base were President lunatica Sep 2018 #9
Thanks. About this: elleng Sep 2018 #10
Unbefuckinglievable gratuitous Sep 2018 #29
Are David Brooks, Bret Stephens, and Ross Douthat on their editorial staff, elleng Sep 2018 #33
Listed on the Times website as op ed columnists gratuitous Sep 2018 #40
Right, so not on the NYT editorial staff. elleng Sep 2018 #48
Squirrel! deminks Sep 2018 #11
nah NewJeffCT Sep 2018 #22
Right, they said so: elleng Sep 2018 #34
Heard on CNN that the person is a "he". nt bsiebs Sep 2018 #84
tRUMP IS TOO STUPID TO WRITE THE ARTICLE. He only can write at the 4th grade level. trueblue2007 Sep 2018 #100
I hope they choke to death on their filthy tax cuts and deregulation because PA Democrat Sep 2018 #13
Wait a minute... BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #14
Hi BigmanPigman, how are you ? syringis Sep 2018 #61
The person who wrote this needs to be a patriot BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #64
Just handed top Trump communications officials a printed copy of NYT op-ed. They say it's the first demmiblue Sep 2018 #15
This isn't stunning to me at all HumblePi Sep 2018 #16
Amen. nt Habibi Sep 2018 #87
sounds like trying to save their reputation to get future work JI7 Sep 2018 #17
Times tweets anonymous official is a "he" demmiblue Sep 2018 #20
So it's definitely not Kellyanne or Sarah Fuckabee Sanders NastyRiffraff Sep 2018 #83
why these resisters inside the white house think they have the authority to Kota Sep 2018 #21
They obviously thought they could control him, & who wouldn't stick around for that? Native Sep 2018 #41
I will wait to see what comes of this ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #23
It's interesting, that's for sure. bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #25
"The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation Demovictory9 Sep 2018 #26
Band Aid on a Cancer.... The empressof all Sep 2018 #27
Just broke on MSNBC. nolabear Sep 2018 #28
Significant and it will drive Trump bonkers trying to figure out who grantcart Sep 2018 #31
Time for another internal Witch Hunt NewJeffCT Sep 2018 #42
LOL, round up everyone's cell phones again.... FSogol Sep 2018 #47
Any guesses as to the author? Funtatlaguy Sep 2018 #32
I'm guessing Kellyanne Conway. bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #46
No, apparently the Times let it slip that it's a male. Funtatlaguy Sep 2018 #49
Huh, beats me then! bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #51
Maybe that was an intentional red herring. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #101
Translation: We've got a finger in the leaky dike HopeAgain Sep 2018 #36
Holy shit this is stunning! GusBob Sep 2018 #37
Parallels to Watergate HumblePi Sep 2018 #39
Big cracks showing in Trump's support YessirAtsaFact Sep 2018 #77
This makes me smile Gothmog Sep 2018 #43
"They're huddled in Sarah Sanders' office now." janx Sep 2018 #50
Then step up and stop this madness! madaboutharry Sep 2018 #44
1. Thwarting his worst instincts? They are doing a bad job. FSogol Sep 2018 #45
I think the scary thing is that they may actually BE thwarting his worst instincts. hedda_foil Sep 2018 #96
Hadn't considered that, just assumed they were all typical GOP grifters. Scary stuff. FSogol Sep 2018 #104
This is fubared in so many different ways. GemDigger Sep 2018 #58
JUST IN: Sarah Sanders has no comment on NYT op-ed & won't say if Trump been briefed. demmiblue Sep 2018 #60
This is outrageous! peggysue2 Sep 2018 #62
Who in the administration would work for .... CatMor Sep 2018 #63
At best, propaganda. At worst, it's true and represents a fucking nightmare. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2018 #65
Could be both. n/t janx Sep 2018 #76
Likely legitimate kurtcagle Sep 2018 #66
This feels like the end of something...." - @maddow on now with @NicolleDWallace Gothmog Sep 2018 #67
Hi Gothmog, how are ou ? syringis Sep 2018 #70
Like Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, I want to know the author Gothmog Sep 2018 #75
I join the callers team! syringis Sep 2018 #80
Not Melania- too articulate in Englis. Not Jared- same reason. ehrnst Sep 2018 #81
I'm thinking it is about the mid-terms AndJusticeForSome Sep 2018 #68
Someday somehow mainstreetonce Sep 2018 #69
Where is the damned middle ground in throwing children into cages?! lunatica Sep 2018 #78
Just because they know Trump is crazy doesn't mean HopeAgain Sep 2018 #79
So... who is the "real" president. Don't we have a right to know ecstatic Sep 2018 #82
Translation: He's too incompetent zentrum Sep 2018 #85
Exactly. Crunchy Frog Sep 2018 #112
Somebody's claiming this is Ashley Feinberg. sinkingfeeling Sep 2018 #86
the twitter link orleans Sep 2018 #108
You talk the talk... orangecrush Sep 2018 #88
Trump is gonna go apeshit over this one. 7962 Sep 2018 #89
Duty, Honor, Country is an ingrained military creed, R B Garr Sep 2018 #90
In other words, they want Pence, Kurt V. Sep 2018 #91
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2018 #94
Yes Pence is the better candidate to usher in workinclasszero Sep 2018 #105
Message: "Don't vote for Democrats. We can handle him!" dalton99a Sep 2018 #92
"So, there's an insane child commanding the most lethal arsenal in the history of the world..." LudwigPastorius Sep 2018 #98
WHO IS IT ????????????????????????? trueblue2007 Sep 2018 #99
My money says it comes right from the top. (and I don't mean Pence) LudwigPastorius Sep 2018 #114
I wonder . . . Roadside Attraction Sep 2018 #102
What happens when trump realized that this is from pence? Gothmog Sep 2018 #106
Wish they'll nuke each other! syringis Sep 2018 #107
Basically trying to reassure us that Dump is merely a distraction Crunchy Frog Sep 2018 #110
What I don't get... fescuerescue Sep 2018 #113
They want to stay in power and continue advancing the GOP agenda. LudwigPastorius Sep 2018 #115

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
1. Bullshit !!!
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 03:56 PM
Sep 2018

If you cared anything about this country you would be on TV 24/7 telling the public the

truth about what is happening in the White House.

If you cared anything about this country you would be on TV 24/7 telling the public about

the insane things Trump does on a daily basis.

You are protecting your own ass, not this country.

You are protecting your party, not this country.

You are an enabler.

You enable and abet.

I don't think you know the definition of resistance.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
30. Agreed. These fuckers are more interested in salvaging that rotting carcass of
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:16 PM
Sep 2018

a party than they are in "preserving institutions".

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
54. This is what I wrote on the article:
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:31 PM
Sep 2018

This is an incredible article, not for what it states outright, but for the audacity to act as if it is any different from any administratively run government. Each administration has policy wonks who have been doing the job for years and years, have their own internal rules and regulations (Administrative Procedure Act), and have their own, over time, culture and priorities that the people working in them will espouse.

You can change the head of an administration and you can coerce the direction it will head (the Trump administration has for example done that with the EPA), but you cannot remove the soul of an executive branch administration. This is evident in the Trump administration's historic staffer turnover rate (see The Brookings Institution), where 34% of high level staffers have resigned or been fired because they were unable to effect the change that the Trump administration wants.

So for the author to actually champion its internal administrations keeping their course isn't really a matter of surprise. If anything it illustrates an inflated ego about what can or could be done, knowing that what they want to be done, as conservatives, is to unwind the government to begin with.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
97. I agree.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:29 PM
Sep 2018

This is something that should be taken with a great amount of caution, and perhaps a ton or so of salt. Something like this could destroy every bit of progress we've made. I advise caution, and not jumping head first into a pool of water that may be a mile wide, but only an inch deep. That being said, I hope every bit of it is true, and brings about the demise of the Trump administration.

GetRidOfThem

(869 posts)
95. Caution!
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:21 PM
Sep 2018

Yes, this person does not share our ethics. I agree 100%.

But the VALUE of the information he or she is providing is stellar. Don't shut this person up!

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
111. Yeah, this is purely about protecting the Republican Party.
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 01:13 AM
Sep 2018

After Trump is gone, the narrative will be that all is well and back to "normal" (as if the Republican Party of the last 50 years didn't create this monster). The Republican Party will continue to be one of the most destructive forces in the world, and the anti-Trump Republicans will be right back on the bandwagon.

True Dough

(17,312 posts)
2. That's all well and fine
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 03:56 PM
Sep 2018

but as Trump keeps churning through positions, the resistance is going to be thrown into disarray. The real solution is to get the diabolical president out of the White House, ASAP!

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
12. The article is about a Republican who is resisting
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:03 PM
Sep 2018

Trump's worst impulses - the pro Russia/anti-democratic ones - not the anti-Trump resistance online.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Three words for the purported author
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 03:57 PM
Sep 2018

Anonymous chickenshit enabler. And shame on the New York Times for giving this alleged person a platform.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
6. Trump has delivered some major wins for Republicans. Huge wins.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 03:59 PM
Sep 2018

The wins are big enough that they won't buck him. They see him as temporary while some of his wins are more permanent.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
38. The tax cuts alone were a massive win for them.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:22 PM
Sep 2018

Because they are unwinding the very fabric of the US government by causing the debt to explode exponentially.

janx

(24,128 posts)
19. That was my first thought as well, but
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:06 PM
Sep 2018

it was probably edited, especially if there is a group effort going on. There's something about it that sounds artificially juvenile, as if a young staffer wrote it or it was worded to be unnecessarily mysterious. It almost sounds like a fake ransom letter.

AndJusticeForSome

(537 posts)
59. I noticed that as well
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:36 PM
Sep 2018

As though an articulate person were afraid of being too articulate. I'm sure that would identify them immediately, as their number is surely limited.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
9. If anyone in his base were President
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:02 PM
Sep 2018

they would be exactly like him.

They’re not blind to what he does. They admire it.

They bilk whoever they can, whenever they can. Their idea of a good deal is getting something for
nothing. They believe in underpaying others while getting as much as they can for themselves and they will cheat and lie to do it.

We all know the type. They talk a good talk but always act on their lowest impulses.

elleng

(131,006 posts)
10. Thanks. About this:
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:02 PM
Sep 2018

'The Times today is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the essay or our vetting process here.'

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/reader-center/oped-questions.html

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
29. Unbefuckinglievable
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:14 PM
Sep 2018

So, the Times basically asks the public to trust them when they say this alleged person is bona fide and delivering "an important perspective." This is the same New York Times that employed Judith "Curveball" Miller and her credulous reporting from Iraq about those ol' debbil weapons of mass destruction. The same Times that employed Elisabeth "Weekly wet sloppy valentines to George W. Bush" Bumiller and her endless paeans to the greatness of 43. The same Times that currently has an editorial staff that includes David Brooks, Bret Stephens, and Ross Douthat.

Yeah, there's some credibility for ya.

elleng

(131,006 posts)
33. Are David Brooks, Bret Stephens, and Ross Douthat on their editorial staff,
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:18 PM
Sep 2018

or occasional columnists and opinion writers?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
40. Listed on the Times website as op ed columnists
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:23 PM
Sep 2018

For Brooks, Stephens, and Douthat, this is their regular gig that opens the door to other opportunities to go on the teevee shows, get invited to be visiting lecturers at prestigious universities, be the guests of honor on Caribbean cruises during the cold months, and have their mental droppings consolidated and put into books. Any of which generates more money than you or I (and probably you and I) make in a year.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
22. nah
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:08 PM
Sep 2018

the NY Times has made a lot of mistakes, but it sounded pretty clear that they knew who the person was inside the White House, just agreed to not publish his or her name.

elleng

(131,006 posts)
34. Right, they said so:
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:20 PM
Sep 2018

'The Times’s Opinion desk has taken the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We did so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure.'

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/reader-center/oped-questions.html

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
13. I hope they choke to death on their filthy tax cuts and deregulation because
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:03 PM
Sep 2018

they have put the entire planet at risk.

BigmanPigman

(51,613 posts)
14. Wait a minute...
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:03 PM
Sep 2018

OK, yippee that there are people around the crazy moron who are keeping him from blowing up the country. Thank you.

BUT...THEY WILL NOT USE THE 25th amend to get the crazy moron out!

They are not getting respect from me since they are enabling him as a members of the GOP party.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
61. Hi BigmanPigman, how are you ?
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:36 PM
Sep 2018

Spot on !

I can't say anymore "it baffles me" as for long now, I'm in a continuous flabbergasted mood!

I wonder what would had it be if they hadn't vowed this :

We work for the president but we have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

I don't know who wrote this, besides to be mind-blowing, it's counterproductive!

I'm really not fond at all of those anonymous testimony!

demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
15. Just handed top Trump communications officials a printed copy of NYT op-ed. They say it's the first
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:04 PM
Sep 2018
Just handed top Trump communications officials a printed copy of NYT op-ed. They say it’s the first they’re seeing it. I’ve requested WH comment. They’re huddled in Sarah Sanders office now.



HumblePi

(46 posts)
16. This isn't stunning to me at all
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:05 PM
Sep 2018

Publishing this essay from a 'senior official' in the White House isn't doing anything except reaffirm what the left has always known, he's unfit for office. Unless these people start coming out into the light of day and proclaiming to Congress and for all to witness as to what they saw and why they believe Trump is a danger, then these anonymous sources are meaningless.

Kota

(901 posts)
21. why these resisters inside the white house think they have the authority to
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:08 PM
Sep 2018

decide to implement their own agenda in place of a president is beyond me. They have no right, if the president is that incompetent and dangerous he should be impeached.

Native

(5,942 posts)
41. They obviously thought they could control him, & who wouldn't stick around for that?
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:24 PM
Sep 2018

All the power without having to take the heat? That they are now owning this tells me that they see the writing's on the wall, and they're working to create a narrative that insulates them from going down with the ship - the "Steady State." Gag me.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
23. I will wait to see what comes of this
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:10 PM
Sep 2018

Till then:

There have been so many bombshells already that I'm over the shell shocked phase and into sleeping through the new blitz.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
25. It's interesting, that's for sure.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:12 PM
Sep 2018

Although I don't know what good it does. If they really wanted to resist Trump, they wouldn't do it in the form of an anonymous letter.

And for Trump supporters who see it, it legitimizes their belief that there's a "deep state" that's determined to derail Trump...because that's pretty much what the Op-Ed states, without actually saying "deep state".

Demovictory9

(32,464 posts)
26. "The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:12 PM
Sep 2018
The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility.

--------------

I agree with this statement

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
27. Band Aid on a Cancer....
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:13 PM
Sep 2018

Their secret 'efforts' do nothing to move this country forward and place our government in grave jeopardy. However sincere their intent, it is misguided and selfish. Clearly they don't trust their own party to protect this country and do not believe the system of checks and balances can be relied upon to remove this man. They have turned their backs on our Constitution and their behavior is perhaps even traitorous as well.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
46. I'm guessing Kellyanne Conway.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:25 PM
Sep 2018

She's an idiot, but she's well-spoken, she's been beaten up by the Trump administration and her husband is a vocally anti-Trump.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
36. Translation: We've got a finger in the leaky dike
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:21 PM
Sep 2018

"Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over."

No, chickenshits, do what is right.

HumblePi

(46 posts)
39. Parallels to Watergate
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:23 PM
Sep 2018

Someone on MSNBC just drew a historic parallel to the last great whistle-blower we had, it was Deep Throat during Watergate and exposed by Bob Woodward who now produced a book that may be the beginning of the unraveling of this administration.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
77. Big cracks showing in Trump's support
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:03 PM
Sep 2018

That’s what was happening at the end of Watergate.

It led to Goldwater and Co talking Nixon into resigning.

I don’t think the correlation to Trump’s plunging approval ratings is an accident. Whoever wrote this has been thinking about it for a while.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
44. Then step up and stop this madness!
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:25 PM
Sep 2018

This is a disgrace.

Come forward and expose the truth.

This "Senior Official" is an enabler.

This person and all the others who think they are protecting America are just as guilty of betraying our democracy as Trump himself.

FSogol

(45,493 posts)
45. 1. Thwarting his worst instincts? They are doing a bad job.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:25 PM
Sep 2018

Last edited Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:50 PM - Edit history (1)

2. They think they are part of a heroic resistance? They are enablers and co-conspirators.
3. If they truly believe in duty to country, how did they ever end up in the Trumpy WH?

More rat-ish Republicans leaving the sinking ship.


hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
96. I think the scary thing is that they may actually BE thwarting his worst instincts.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:25 PM
Sep 2018

We may believe we understand what his worst instincts are, but we only know what's reported and the dots we can connect based on those reports. We believe he's a traitor who could care less about this country, the constitution, and our shared ideals. We're probably right, but we haven't seen what the WH staff sees every day.

He lies publicly what -- five, six, seven times a day? How many lies does he tell more privately? Does he want to go full Hitler and mass murder everyone he doesn't think belongs here or will he stop at mass deportation? We just don't know and can't be sure yet.

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
58. This is fubared in so many different ways.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:33 PM
Sep 2018

This just tells the asshole what they are doing...…. heads up boss!

demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
60. JUST IN: Sarah Sanders has no comment on NYT op-ed & won't say if Trump been briefed.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:36 PM
Sep 2018
JUST IN: Sarah Sanders has no comment on NYT op-ed & won't say if Trump been briefed. Says she'll let us know once she has something.

I’ll be asking Trump about it at East Room photo-op with sheriff’s momentarily.



peggysue2

(10,836 posts)
62. This is outrageous!
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:41 PM
Sep 2018

This anonymous source is basically collaborating that the Trumpster is unfit but that he/she is covering for (working diligently to frustrate . . . his worst inclinations) the lunacy, the impulsive and dangerous instincts of his deranged and erratic behavior.

This must stop! The man must be removed, yesterday.

What is wrong with these people????

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
63. Who in the administration would work for ....
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:41 PM
Sep 2018

deregulation, tax cuts for the wealthy and a robust military? Could it be more than one person writing this

kurtcagle

(1,604 posts)
66. Likely legitimate
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:44 PM
Sep 2018

What it says to me is that Trump has become uncontrollable.

There are many people who entered this administration hoping to push Trump in a certain direction - one that we at DU may not agree with, but that is consistent with "conservative thinking". What they are discovering is that the president has become irrational. The bar for 25.4 is high - it requires that there be a consensus among his cabinet and there are many of those within the cabinet that know full well that their career will be over if they can't turn things around. I'm a consultant - I've seen organizations that reach this level, where it's obvious that there's only one end-state on the outside, but that from within there are enough people who believe that maybe if they spend enough nights and weekends they will manage to pull victory from disaster. However, I think the end is nigh.

syringis

(5,101 posts)
70. Hi Gothmog, how are ou ?
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:53 PM
Sep 2018

A truly welcomed end of... whatever!

I think we're all exhausted of winning!

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
81. Not Melania- too articulate in Englis. Not Jared- same reason.
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:22 PM
Sep 2018

Not Ivanka, because she has an eye on running for office.

Kellyanne? Dunno, she's such a soldier of fortune, she wants it to last as long as possible.

Mattis? maybe...

AndJusticeForSome

(537 posts)
68. I'm thinking it is about the mid-terms
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:46 PM
Sep 2018

A reassurance to the GOP and fence-sitters or anyone considering voting (D) in order to rid us of this pestilence, that leaving the (R)s in control is OK.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
69. Someday somehow
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 04:49 PM
Sep 2018

This should put a halt to the Kavenaugh hearings.

How can a president who is possibly not fit for office appoint a lifetime judge?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
78. Where is the damned middle ground in throwing children into cages?!
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:08 PM
Sep 2018

Or in banning all Muslims entering this country? In this much touted middle ground they demand we give in to some line that they draw? Where can we find a common line regarding Putin’s future plans for us, or climate change, gun control, letting women have the right to choose, or just about any other crazed Trump policy.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
85. Translation: He's too incompetent
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 05:55 PM
Sep 2018

....to drown the government in a bathtub as we want him to.

He keeps trying to do it in his shoe, his Mac Donald's container etc.

We're keeping him in the bathroom, and directing his attention back to the tub as much as necessary.

orleans

(34,061 posts)
108. the twitter link
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 08:01 PM
Sep 2018

implies pence wrote it
and gives four or five examples when pence has used the word lodestar in speeches

maybe the reference to ashley has to do with investigating stuff? i don't know

R B Garr

(16,955 posts)
90. Duty, Honor, Country is an ingrained military creed,
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:03 PM
Sep 2018

so I think it’s someone who has deep and personal connections to the military, so I’m going with Mattis. It sounds like someone who is confidently speaking on behalf of others like a military leader does.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
105. Yes Pence is the better candidate to usher in
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 07:03 PM
Sep 2018

The Republic of Gilead/Fourth Reich/Holy American Empire.

Because he ‘appears’ to be sane unlike Dotard Puppet.

LudwigPastorius

(9,156 posts)
98. "So, there's an insane child commanding the most lethal arsenal in the history of the world..."
Wed Sep 5, 2018, 06:30 PM
Sep 2018


"Don't worry. We got this. Nothing can go romg."

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
110. Basically trying to reassure us that Dump is merely a distraction
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 01:11 AM
Sep 2018

While they work tirelessly behind the scenes to enact the evil agenda of the Kochs and Mercers and other shadowy billionaires who are the real people running this shitshow.

Not impressed.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
113. What I don't get...
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 04:35 AM
Sep 2018

Is that any internal resistance with the Trump party, why would they want to announce their existence to the world?

A secret resistance generally embraces secrecy, instead of publication.


LudwigPastorius

(9,156 posts)
115. They want to stay in power and continue advancing the GOP agenda.
Thu Sep 6, 2018, 04:06 PM
Sep 2018

This is them assuring the country that, despite Trump's dangerous insanity, they'll keep him from destroying the country or the world...so, you see, you can put away all this talk about impeachment or prosecution. "We got this."

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Ryan and McConnell haven't been informed, and have signed off, on the country being run by the President's Nannies.

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