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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis Anonymous Op-Ed Writer is a GOP P.O.S!
The naked political calculation this Op-ed is espousing is that as long as we get tax cuts for the well-off one percent class, deregulation of environmental protections for the corporations, and fanatical judges purely to control women's bodies, this anonymous writer is just fine with trying to control this erratic, amoral, deranged fascist dictator. Trump is a convenient idiot that they think they can control by ignoring the Constitution, subverting the White House, and then warning us with a wink and a nod that they are in control even if Trump isn't.
Well, color me unimpressed with this anonymous "resistance" and its phony reassurances. It has far less to do with a resistance movement and far more to do with collaborators and sympathizers. No one on either side of the aisle should feel good about the words written in the New York Times.
samnsara
(17,636 posts)..just THANK GAWD someone..ANYONE.. is in the WH trying to do their best to thwart this crazy clown. If they are outed they become one more insignificant body added to the growing pile of trump trashed 'whistleblowers...' at least we have some ppl in there who can say NOW is the time. But maybe thats what they are saying now.. maybe this is a cry for help that they cant completely control bozo without our help. I wish they could tell us what to do. Im focusing more on the message and not the messenger..
Joe Nation
(963 posts)I see someone trying to look like a hero. Collaborators often think they are heroes. They are just prolonging Trump's reign.
Joe Nation
(963 posts)Sounds like her style.
hlthe2b
(102,376 posts)I give him/her no heroic accolades, but what is happening in the WH, the incompetence, the damage, the danger coming from a man singularly unfit for office must be exposed. I can't say the timing (nor, of course the anonymity) is helpful and I do fear a "backfire" from the increased Trump paranoia.
But, I am certainly no surprised that a WH "whistleblower" would try to defend their continued presence in the WH by appealing to traditional RW positions and so-called "accomplishments". Of course they would
This person is so complicit in everything Trump is doing and actually is enabling him to do it longer.
Kaleva
(36,351 posts)They are doing their best in trying to tear down whoever this person is. Don't help them. Just stand back and watch them eat each other up.
Joe Nation
(963 posts)Since the enemy of my enemy is enabling my other enemy.
emulatorloo
(44,186 posts)and tear each other apart.
Joe Nation
(963 posts)You usually don't enable an enemy while tearing them apart.
emulatorloo
(44,186 posts)They are definitely tearing themselves apart.
Joe Nation
(963 posts)I was leaning more towards sanity.
emulatorloo
(44,186 posts)I think that was part of the motivation for the op-ed writer.
Kaleva
(36,351 posts)What I did say was to stand back and let the two go at each other. By attacking the Op writer, you are by default assisting Trump and his supporters who are trying their own best to discredit the person.
Joe Nation
(963 posts)I'm attacking both the Op-ed writer and Trump. You are defending one of those two.
emulatorloo
(44,186 posts)Let them fight
Joe Nation
(963 posts)Again, I defend neither side of this shit-show.
emulatorloo
(44,186 posts)Dont put words in other peoples mouths they didnt say.
Kaleva
(36,351 posts)When you said that I should... "....stand back and let the two go at each other. By attacking the Op writer, you are by default assisting Trump and his supporters who are trying their own best to discredit the person."
Telling me not to attack someone IS basically defending them even if only passively.
Kaleva
(36,351 posts)".stand back and let the two go at each other." isn't defending anyone. You, on the other hand, by calling the Op writer a POS, are helping Trump and the Freepers. If the enemy is busily forming a circular firing squad, don't get involved. Just let them blaze away.
Joe Nation
(963 posts)I'm not.
mythology
(9,527 posts)So busy ranting and raving that you are blatantly mischaracterizing others here.
Joe Nation
(963 posts)This is a forum for debate, point and counter point. Disagreements are part of that dynamic. Put your big boy pants on and try to follow along....preferably quietly.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)You become righteously defensive when you allege you're being mischaracterized, yet rationalize doing the very same to others.
Big boy pants, indeed; part II.
Bless your heart.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Best not to dig in when you're wrong... it's a serious character flaw.
Joe Nation
(963 posts)Theyre not doing us a service by actively promoting 90 percent of the crazy stuff thats coming out of this White House and then saying, Dont worry, were preventing the other 10 percent, Obama said. Thats not how things are supposed to work. This is not normal.
Initech
(100,104 posts)Kaleva
(36,351 posts)Joe Nation
(963 posts)If we side with the Op-ed writer because they are confirming what we have been saying all along about this Administration, then we are also complicit in condoning the writer's efforts to sustain Trump's time in office by making him seem just reasonable enough. The sooner we see the totality of this buffoon, the sooner we'll be rid of his ass.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)...directly implies condoning A in his or her totality?
Seems an allegation as broad as yours would require logic and evidence to support it, and there's not really any there.
Maybe if you simply stopped lecturing people on how to react to any one thing, the more time you have to concentrate on critical thought instead.
Joe Nation
(963 posts)And unless specifically excluding point-by-point someone's overall position, condoning someone's position broadly IS condoning it entirely. Now, unless you just want to argue for argument's sake, let's agree to disagree. You can have the last word, I don't care.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,858 posts)What did you expect?
They are justifiably concerned about Trump's incompetence but don't want to upset the applecart too much by invoking the 25th Amendment (admittedly a long shot, but why not try?). So they're just going to try to prop him up and keep him from starting WWIII for as long as necessary to get GOP legislation through Congress and nutball Supreme Court justices confirmed.
Joe Nation
(963 posts)BRAVO!!
MariaCSR
(642 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)I want to know why they wrote it.
What are they hoping to getting out of it? What is their motivation?
I would look to those who want power for themselves. I wonder if their motivation is to just make Trump crazy or to stop him, not from screwing with us, but because hes no longer useful to them. Once they have the Supreme Court locked down why would they keep him?
Why go public with this letter? What do they think will happen because of this letter? Despots dont have loyal followers outside their own families, and Trumps family would be useless because they have so far been less than useless. Trump doesnt have friends. He has people he uses who he discards at will. This letter only serves to push him further into madness, and does nothing to help us. We might be falling for something just because we like to hear it.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,438 posts)They.are.NOT.a.member.of.the.Resistance. They are an ENABLER of somebody who is GROSSLY unqualified to be POTUS, as well as horrific policies, esp. when it comes to immigration!