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Not clapping for Der Twitler gets you a nice interrogation by Secret Service and local police (Original Post) Roland99 Sep 2018 OP
I cut the Secret Service some slack RandySF Sep 2018 #1
I'm not understanding your message. Control-Z Sep 2018 #4
An assassination attempt Exlimitir Sep 2018 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Sep 2018 #7
Have there ever been any murders committed by a gentle enough comedian as that kid? marble falls Sep 2018 #33
No clapping or cheering for the the Fuehrer is an attempt at what? Bengus81 Sep 2018 #29
I think it was the faces he made during the speech. RandySF Sep 2018 #32
LOL...he made a face that said WHAT?? That gets the Fuehrers secret service on your case? Bengus81 Sep 2018 #34
Welcome to the United State of Authoritarianism ProudLib72 Sep 2018 #2
I Thought This Was Going To Be An Onion Article LandOfHopeAndDreams Sep 2018 #3
Interesting Part Of Article LandOfHopeAndDreams Sep 2018 #6
"Plaid shirt guy" ... NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #8
It's an intimidation tactic. It wasn't SS pulling him aside as a threat Roland99 Sep 2018 #10
No, that's not all he did ... NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #13
Except he did say they were expected to be more enthusiastic caraher Sep 2018 #14
He was making faces ... NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #16
I have three sons. . . . h2ebits Sep 2018 #17
How do we even know it was SS? I went to a tRump rally during the primaries- a disgusting Tipperary Sep 2018 #22
So when Kamala Harris is President :) :) and out doing a rally... Alea Sep 2018 #18
Obama encouraged peaceful protesters to stay. Have we forgotten that? Roland99 Sep 2018 #25
Didn't you hear what Michell Obama said about the Secret Service. Blue_true Sep 2018 #31
Yeah, I caught that.. Cha Sep 2018 #9
He says they were very polite. Asked to see his ID, and told him to leave. Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #11
Shouldn't any politician welcome young potential voters? Rhiannon12866 Sep 2018 #12
uh, I don't think he was just "taking an interest" CharleyDog Sep 2018 #19
I was half being sarcastic, since it was obvious he wasn't a fan Rhiannon12866 Sep 2018 #20
I also saw an interview with a woman wearing a "Handmaid's" dress kicked out by SS. Midnight Writer Sep 2018 #15
Wake up All of America - KGOP republican fascists are tightening Achilleaze Sep 2018 #21
He wasn't charged with any crime oberliner Sep 2018 #23
Never said he was Roland99 Sep 2018 #24
"Only in authoritarian counties is not clapping a crime." oberliner Sep 2018 #27
I think it would be done during a President Obama rally. So many death threats plus mucifer Sep 2018 #26
Agreed oberliner Sep 2018 #28
They must be pretty busy then judesedit Sep 2018 #30

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
4. I'm not understanding your message.
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 12:25 AM
Sep 2018
No agent wants to see any attempt of their watch.
.
Attempt at what, I guess, is what I'm asking.

Response to Exlimitir (Reply #5)

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
29. No clapping or cheering for the the Fuehrer is an attempt at what?
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 09:16 AM
Sep 2018

If the Secret Service is going to detain and question everyone who disagrees with SHITLER they better hire 10,000 more agents.

RandySF

(59,236 posts)
32. I think it was the faces he made during the speech.
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 01:28 PM
Sep 2018

I've interacted with the SS ub the past. They don't leave anything to chence.

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
34. LOL...he made a face that said WHAT?? That gets the Fuehrers secret service on your case?
Mon Sep 10, 2018, 12:01 PM
Sep 2018

It would have been one thing if he would have maybe dones something stupid like cocking a "gun" with his hand gesture or made punching strokes at Trump but all he did was look puzzled and wondering what the HELL Trump was promising those knuckle draggers. Hell protesters outside the WH do more with signs and yelling than that guy did.

I would have asked for an attorney and seen what they said. STAND UP to this kind of Hitler BS!!!

 
6. Interesting Part Of Article
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 12:29 AM
Sep 2018

Linfesty said he also had a picture taken by the Trump campaign before the rally while he was wearing the DSA rose and posing with the president. He has not seen the picture since, he said Friday. As a joke, he also gave a copy of the "Communist Manifesto" wrapped with an "Art of the Deal" cover to Secret Service in hopes of having the president sign it. Agents did not grant his request, and the president didn't sign the book, he said.

"I didn't do it because I'm a communist," Linfesty said. "I did it because I thought it was funny as a joke."

NanceGreggs

(27,818 posts)
8. "Plaid shirt guy" ...
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 12:34 AM
Sep 2018

... was on with Don Lemon (CNN) earlier. He said the SS were extremely courteous - they asked to see his ID, and then told him to leave the venue.

It had nothing to do with "not clapping", and there was no "interrogation".

There are real battles to be fought - this isn't one of them.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
10. It's an intimidation tactic. It wasn't SS pulling him aside as a threat
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 12:57 AM
Sep 2018

He was pulled away by a handler or someone sent by a handler who then in all probability involved SS

All the kid do was not smile and not clap on cue

NanceGreggs

(27,818 posts)
13. No, that's not all he did ...
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 01:33 AM
Sep 2018

... and he didn't feel intimidated at all.

I think I'll go with his version of events, rather than yours.

caraher

(6,279 posts)
14. Except he did say they were expected to be more enthusiastic
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 02:19 AM
Sep 2018

From the Billings Gazette piece linked in the tweet in the OP:

"They told us while we were sitting there, 'You guys have to keep clapping, you have to smile, you have to look enthusiastic,'" Linfesty said. "I had to be honest in my views."


It does seem he didn't feel intimidated, yet, it's also clear the campaign decided he and, ultimately, his friends were not a suitable backdrop

Early on in the Trump rally, a Billings Gazette reporter saw staffers in the press pen looking at a photo in which Linfesty was circled.

Later Linfesty pinned a stylized rose emblem representing the Democratic Socialists of America to his right breast. The same group of staffers reviewed a photo of the emblem and searched online for more information. A short while later, Linfesty was removed.

"I saw this woman walking toward me on the left," he said. "She just said to me, 'I'm going to replace you.'"

NanceGreggs

(27,818 posts)
16. He was making faces ...
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 03:11 AM
Sep 2018

... while Trump was speaking, in reaction to what was being said. His facial expressions were – shall we say – not what you’d want on camera in the circumstances. They ranged from incredulous to “huh – he said what?”.

Security probably suspected he was an anti-Trumper who was deliberately messing-up the camera view – and might have worried that he was planning something more untoward.

He was not the least bit intimidated, and made a point of saying how courteously he was treated.

Why people are trying to make this incident into a cause celebre is beyond me. It's the perfect example of the term "nothing-burger".

h2ebits

(646 posts)
17. I have three sons. . . .
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 03:39 AM
Sep 2018

Yes, it is a "nothing-burger" in the serious sense but I have laughed out loud by myself a number of times watching this kid and the expressions on his face. To read of his other little jokes makes the story even funnier. He is a 17-year old boy! Clearly, he planned ahead and was punking the adults--the book, the rose. Please--just enjoy his antics. Allow yourself the time to appreciate his efforts and share in his humor.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
22. How do we even know it was SS? I went to a tRump rally during the primaries- a disgusting
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 07:24 AM
Sep 2018

spectacle, I might add. There were a lot of clean cut young guys running around with ear thingies and wearing suits. I was quite sure none of these were SS, but simply playing a part. They were obviously part of a local student group. I can imagine that they’d love to play the part of an SS agent to some unsuspecting kid. Unless someone shows me ID identifying themselves as a bona fida agent, I would not believe they were.

Alea

(706 posts)
18. So when Kamala Harris is President :) :) and out doing a rally...
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 03:44 AM
Sep 2018

You'll be OK with this guys opposite number, a trump supporter or Green Party idiot, standing behind her and playing the fool? They'd boot him in a heartbeat lol.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
31. Didn't you hear what Michell Obama said about the Secret Service.
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 11:19 AM
Sep 2018

Part of how they protect the President and the President's family is to intimidate the shit out of people that come close to the protected people.

Rhiannon12866

(206,043 posts)
12. Shouldn't any politician welcome young potential voters?
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 01:27 AM
Sep 2018

One would think that anyone who's contemplating running for office would be pleased that the next generation is taking enough of an interest that they'd attend. And it's not like he caused a disturbance... or blew his nose on the flag.

CharleyDog

(758 posts)
19. uh, I don't think he was just "taking an interest"
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 04:44 AM
Sep 2018

Was he one of the $paid$ attendees? If not paid, how can they demand you "look excited and clap"? If you are a regular person attending a rally, how can you be replaced? Do they say, if you sit here behind the Orange One you must act like a zealot?

Rhiannon12866

(206,043 posts)
20. I was half being sarcastic, since it was obvious he wasn't a fan
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 04:54 AM
Sep 2018

But it's like others have said today, this is like some autocratic regime - act like a crazed zealot or you're out! Has this ever happened with any other American candidate or public official??

Midnight Writer

(21,802 posts)
15. I also saw an interview with a woman wearing a "Handmaid's" dress kicked out by SS.
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 02:35 AM
Sep 2018

She said she offered to take off head piece and cloak, but Secret Service still took away her admission pass.

Since when did the Secret Service become a political suppression tool? Next they will be wearing lightning bolt insignia.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
21. Wake up All of America - KGOP republican fascists are tightening
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 06:21 AM
Sep 2018

their grip around America and American democracy.

EVIL KGOP republican shit on the rise - against the will of the American people

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
27. "Only in authoritarian counties is not clapping a crime."
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 09:05 AM
Sep 2018

Was responding to that line in the tweet you posted.

mucifer

(23,569 posts)
26. I think it would be done during a President Obama rally. So many death threats plus
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 08:59 AM
Sep 2018

plaid shirt guy said the secret service was very respectful and he didn't seem bothered by it. There are a lot of crazies out there making death threats.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
28. Agreed
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 09:12 AM
Sep 2018

Seems like the Secret Service handled this the right way - and exactly how they would for any POTUS.

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