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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 10:42 AM Sep 2018

Restoration of 15th century sculptures leaves Virgin Mary with eyeliner and pink lipstick

A Spanish shop owner has been accused of an 'aberration' after an amateur restoration of three 15th century sculptures which included eyeliner and pink lipstick for the Virgin Mary. Maria Luisa Menendez, one of only 16 inhabitants in the tiny village of Ranadoiro in the northern province of Asturias, is said to have produced the eye-catching result with the permission of local priest Arturo Garcia.

The Virgin Mary ended up with turquoise green hair in one of the three sculptures and Baby Jesus with a look which has been compared to a Playmobil figure.

Maria Luisa, who has received support from her neighbours, hit back on Friday by insisting she had simply used colours she liked for the facelift and claimed they were horrible before she transformed them. She told a local paper: 'I'm not a professional but they were horrible and I wanted to paint them to make them look better.
I had the priest's permission. I painted them in the colours that took my fancy, that was all.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6142399/Botched-restoration-15th-century-sculptures-leaves-Virgin-Mary-eyeliner-lipstick.html



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Restoration of 15th century sculptures leaves Virgin Mary with eyeliner and pink lipstick (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Sep 2018 OP
Ummm... as an artist... Zoonart Sep 2018 #1
Yes PatSeg Sep 2018 #2
Polychrome wood carvings were common. MineralMan Sep 2018 #3
And here's another historic 16th century polychrome wood sculpture: MineralMan Sep 2018 #4
And lest we forget, it was common that ancient sculpture was painted as well The Genealogist Sep 2018 #9
Exactly. In fact, most wood carvings and sculptures were painted. MineralMan Sep 2018 #10
No comparison Generic Other Sep 2018 #11
Whatever you say. I have, however, never seen a polychrome MineralMan Sep 2018 #12
Actual artists can easily see the difference Generic Other Sep 2018 #14
Church's 16th-century St George sculpture 'looking like Walt Disney cartoon' dalton99a Sep 2018 #5
Here's another 15th century example of polychrome wood sculpture: MineralMan Sep 2018 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Sep 2018 #7
Learn more about the use of polychrome in those days and other periods: MineralMan Sep 2018 #8
IMHO, both she and the priest should be horse whipped for destroying sinkingfeeling Sep 2018 #13
And the Bebe Jesus looks like Eddie Munster. nt Laffy Kat Sep 2018 #15

Zoonart

(11,879 posts)
1. Ummm... as an artist...
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 10:49 AM
Sep 2018

FIrstly, the turquoise green is the Virgin Mary's mantle and not hair. Secondly it is an oft used technique of artists to underline the eye in black to make the eye appear more open.... not just a make-up technique. The color palette seems culturally appropriate and I don't really see the problem in this work, with the exception of the destruction of historical integrity in painting a 15th century wooden sculpture. THAT is the travesty... not the color palette. Just MHO.

PatSeg

(47,600 posts)
2. Yes
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 10:53 AM
Sep 2018

I'm trying to figure out why on earth they thought it was a good idea to paint the statues in the first place. They were beautiful. Yes, definitely a travesty.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
3. Polychrome wood carvings were common.
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 10:57 AM
Sep 2018

They still are in many places. This is not out of place, really. It just seems to be, because we're not used to seeing such polychrome colors today. Here's an 18th-century Madonna and child:



And here's one from the 15th century:

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
9. And lest we forget, it was common that ancient sculpture was painted as well
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 11:35 AM
Sep 2018

Often in what we would see as garish colors.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
10. Exactly. In fact, most wood carvings and sculptures were painted.
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 12:04 PM
Sep 2018

It's interesting to visit Catholic churches in Mexico and South America, where that tradition continues.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
11. No comparison
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 12:17 PM
Sep 2018

The brushstrokes, the colors, the paint (ground up pigments not plastic day-glo acrylics) indicate the skill level of the artisans who painted these. The woman's art looks like that of the person who painted this rock.

.webp

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
12. Whatever you say. I have, however, never seen a polychrome
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 12:19 PM
Sep 2018

sculpture as it appeared just after being painted. I'm not that old. I've seen some pretty garish polychrome work in churches in Mexico, though.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
14. Actual artists can easily see the difference
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 12:26 PM
Sep 2018

The examples you have shown are technically so superior to this woman's work that there is no comparison. The works you posted as a point of comparison did not start out looking like her restoration. Good grief.


This is a better comparison!

dalton99a

(81,590 posts)
5. Church's 16th-century St George sculpture 'looking like Walt Disney cartoon'
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 11:10 AM
Sep 2018


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/26/second-spanish-church-hit-botched-restoration-job/
Botched restoration job leaves church's 16th-century St George sculpture 'looking like Walt Disney cartoon'
It was a little known but well-regarded 16th century wooden carving of St George on horseback, battling a dragon, tucked away in a small church in northern Spain.

But the well-meaning restoration efforts of a local handicrafts teacher have left the 500-year old carving in Estella, Navarre, looking more like a cartoon character, attracting global dismay and bringing back bad memories for the Spanish cultural authorities of another church art botch job that caught the world's attention: the restoration of Ecce Homo, a religious mural in Borja in 2012, that left Christ looking rather more like a monkey than the saviour.

The "unfortunate" restoration of St George at the Romanesque church of San Miguel de Estella was conducted without consultation, according to the town's mayor Koldo Leoz. An arts-and-crafts workshop company called Karmacolor undertook the work at the behest of the local priest, apparently then handing the job to the local teacher.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
6. Here's another 15th century example of polychrome wood sculpture:
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 11:20 AM
Sep 2018


Odds are that the colors were much brighter when it was first painted. We shouldn't apply our current preferences to historical artworks. Now, the colors used on the figures in question may not represent the colors of that time, but we can't see the actual colors any longer as they appeared in the 15th century, when wood sculptures used in churches were almost universally painted in polychrome colors.

Our preference for natural wood is a much more recent development.

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