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madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 07:46 AM Sep 2018

Willie Geist on MSNBC brings up the 2,000 plus deaths after 9/11.

2,000 plus first responders who worked at the 9/11 site have died from illness caused by the toxic air they breathed in the aftermath.

EPA Secretary Christie Whitman went on television in the days following 9/11 and declared unequivocally that the air in downtown Manhattan "WAS SAFE" and that not only was it safe for first responders, but that it was also safe for people to return to their homes and to work.

The air was not safe. And they no doubt had absolutely no data or information to say so.

These deaths and debilitating illnesses are on the Bush Administration.

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Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
3. We all too often remember the event, but forget the lingering aftereffects...
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 09:47 AM
Sep 2018

Too many politicians love to grab the spotlight acting all patriotic and caring, but drop the ball once the news cycle moves on.

This type of shit is all too common throughout our history. Yeah, move on. Suck it up. Shit happens and all that.

tavernier

(12,389 posts)
4. I imagine many family members spent countless hours at the site as well.
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 09:59 AM
Sep 2018

I wonder if they haven’t suffered from the same?

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
5. A war based on lies
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 10:03 AM
Sep 2018

Sadly, that is the first thing that comes to mind for me. And the same people that support tiny hands I am sure believe that Iraq was who attacked NYC and Washington.


Peace

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
6. i dont even know how they needed data.
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 10:10 AM
Sep 2018

i was there in oct of that year. i could smell that smell when i got off the plane in newark.
i will never forget it. the dusty, concrety smell that you could almost taste, and the smell of the dead bodies.
you didnt need testing and data to know that it was not good to breathe that.

lark

(23,102 posts)
8. Never forget, shrub was a totally terrible president, one of the worst ever!!!
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 11:02 AM
Sep 2018

Just because he wasn't as full on racist as drumpf and wasn't trying to end freedom of speech and the press doesn't mean he was a good president. He just wasn't a Russian agent like drumpf is so wasn't going out of his way to destroy our country and the world to build up Russia.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
9. the assholes in charge gave the cheapest possible dust masks out
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 12:44 PM
Sep 2018

they didn't need to be canister masks, though that would have been good for people having to be there, but there were much better disposable masks available with much better seal around cheek and nose and finer filtering

they were trying to downplay the problem and that may have been part of the strategy - "no big deal these piece of shit masks are fine, dude"

no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
10. The neighbor of Willie Geist died that day
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 01:25 PM
Sep 2018

His father, Bill Geist, made a moving tribute to him on Sunday Morning.

I knew him too. We went to school together K to 12.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
11. No data needed. The air was a visual, olfactory, gustatory, and cutaneous mess.
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 02:24 PM
Sep 2018

You could see, smell, taste, and feel the noxious air....for weeks and weeks.

I lived across the river that day and in the city from time to time through the summer of 2002. I posted my story earlier today, it includes a little tidbit about an eye doctor's contribution. In addition to what I wrote in that post, he expressed a concern to me that first responders could be at real risk of permanent eye damage. He had tears in his eyes when he said that.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11120641

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
14. Bulletin to Dem Candidates: Repug Congress repeatedly voted against 911 First Responders
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 07:07 PM
Sep 2018

There is a major probability that Dems are running against Congressional Repug incumbents who voted AGAINST the Aid to 911 First Responders (Health) Authorization and/or stridently opposed its reAuthorization ten years later....or they cowardly pulled a no show(NV) the day of the vote.

In 2016 Doug Applegate ran one ad against Darrell Issa that informed San Diegans that Issa had voted against the 911 First Responders. This news shocked San Diego to the point that Issa went from being a double digit shoe in to loosing San Diego's
portion of his district by 1500 votes.(the Orange County part of the district, where the DNC did nothing to pass on this Issa
history pulled Issa out by less than a .5% win.) Issa "retired" not too long after his squeaker win.

So please, please Democrats ...I'm looking at even the remaining RW crackpot, "patriotic" incumbent in San Diego, Duncan Hunter, please, please make your incumbent Repug's opponents' vote against 911 First Responders the first sentence in every interview and speech.

Nothing but nothing defines the Republican Party more clearly that their near monolithic votes against the 911 First Responders.
They did it not only once, but ten years later did it again.

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