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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 08:19 AM Sep 2018

"(Trump) proceeded to lecture and insult (the Secretaries of Defense, State and Treasury) about how

A senior White House official who spoke contemporaneously with participants in the meeting recorded this summary: “The president proceeded to lecture and insult the entire group about how they didn’t know anything when it came to defense or national security. It seems clear that many of the president’s senior advisers, especially those in the national security realm, are extremely concerned with his erratic nature, his relative ignorance, his inability to learn, as well as what they consider his dangerous views.”


Woodward, Bob. Fear: Trump in the White House (pp. 226-227). Simon & Schuster. Kindle Edition.

Entire group = Tillerson, Mattis, Mnuchin, McMasters, Cohn, Dunford, Bannon


This passage came first, of course:

Trump got up and walked out.

All the air seemed to have come out of Tillerson. He could not abide Trump’s attack on the generals. The president was speaking as if the U.S. military was a mercenary force for hire. If a country wouldn’t pay us to be there, then we didn’t want to be there. As if there were no American interests in forging and keeping a peaceful world order, as if the American organizing principle was money.

“Are you okay?” Cohn asked him.

“He’s a fucking moron,” Tillerson said so everyone heard.


Woodward, Bob. Fear: Trump in the White House (pp. 224-225). Simon & Schuster. Kindle Edition.

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Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
3. The republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief is the KGOP Greatest Warrior of All Time
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 08:36 AM
Sep 2018

the republicans line up behind a casino-hustling draft-dodger, and put him in charge of all our generals, admirals and the whole freaking military. STUPID.

Are the republicans following the kremlin's plan when they do shit like this to America? SICK.

SWBTATTReg

(22,129 posts)
4. I like this comment, he's a f**king moron...I'd like to elaborate more...
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 08:42 AM
Sep 2018

worthless...

idiot...

dumbass...

loser...

bigot...

narcissist...

etc.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
5. There was more than one moron in that room when the rest of them refuse to remove him from office.
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 08:44 AM
Sep 2018

As far as I am concerned, none of them have America’s best interests at heart. Every single one of them is an unpatriotic idiot.

brewens

(13,588 posts)
6. Trump doesn't understand that the military is what it is, and does what it does, because
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 08:54 AM
Sep 2018

that makes money for the big players.

If you have a huge military, you're going to use it, and they like to have a mission. It's not like NATO or the UN force us to do anything, and we'd be spending a lot of that money anyway..

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
8. Trump has America in a permanent state of stand-down
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 09:02 AM
Sep 2018

Just try running a legal, business, or political system without rule of law and rule of force to back it up

If he doesn't know what's going on, he's incompetent.

If he does know, he's a traitor and the Devil.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
9. who is the bigger moron...
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 09:04 AM
Sep 2018

the ill-educated, erratic, malignant narcissist or the moron who knows the first moron was a moron before he was elected and supported/supports him anyway....

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
12. Woodward writes of Trump's inability to learn
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 10:31 AM
Sep 2018

I believe that it's also an unwillingness to learn. He is both ignorant and stupid, and unwilling to admit to being either one; the poster child for the Dunning–Kruger effect.

AndJusticeForSome

(537 posts)
15. I wonder how many staffers, besides Spicey
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 08:35 PM
Sep 2018

(and Comey, of course) recorded such detailed contemporaneous observations, hmmm?

JI7

(89,250 posts)
16. and yet all of them just continue to support him as if everything is normal. if he was a woman
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 08:38 PM
Sep 2018

or minority would they stay silent ?

or would they have gotten together as a group and spoken out ?

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