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Two of the worst mornings of our lifetime (Original Post) kpete Sep 2018 OP
12/12/2000 Blues Heron Sep 2018 #1
12/12/00 begat 9/11 which begat 11/9. Initech Sep 2018 #11
+1 sandensea Sep 2018 #12
Conflating the two doesn't make sense to me. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2018 #2
Agreed. bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #3
Trump is a walking terrorist attack. BigRig Sep 2018 #5
9/11 disaster affected us all but in particular New York. Trump disaster affects us all from shraby Sep 2018 #6
From the Pacific to the Pacific (from my frame of reference: living on the West Coast) deurbano Sep 2018 #10
The body count from 11/9 will be much, much higher. byronius Sep 2018 #9
With respect, Trump is an enormously greater disaster, Hortensis Sep 2018 #4
Yes, Bush used 911 to get more executive power treestar Sep 2018 #7
Good point. What conservative pols and the Hortensis Sep 2018 #8

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
12. +1
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 11:55 AM
Sep 2018

I'l never forget the minute I realized two-time Tony Kennedy was voting against Gore. I was driving to the grocery store in Dana Point, CA, with NPR on, and I'll never forget the feeling:

"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
3. Agreed.
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 08:55 AM
Sep 2018

Trump's election was a terrible thing...but it's not something that should be compared to 9/11.

Only time 9/11 should be used in comparison to something is other terrorist attacks.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
6. 9/11 disaster affected us all but in particular New York. Trump disaster affects us all from
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 09:02 AM
Sep 2018

sea to shining sea.

byronius

(7,395 posts)
9. The body count from 11/9 will be much, much higher.
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 11:26 AM
Sep 2018

It will be less direct and harder to prove causality; but it will be tremendously higher, and the tide of human misery even larger. We wil never be the same -- that is is what ties the two events together.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. With respect, Trump is an enormously greater disaster,
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 08:59 AM
Sep 2018

Trump and the rising authoritarianism this pustule is a symptom of. I've been fortunate in my personal life, and that was by far the worst morning of my life.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. Yes, Bush used 911 to get more executive power
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 09:03 AM
Sep 2018

But Orange Stalin is upfront about how much power he wants.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Good point. What conservative pols and the
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 09:14 AM
Sep 2018

NYC-based media used 9/11 to do to the nation, after that morning, are parts of that disaster.

"America will never be the same again." People believed that, pushed at them all day long by media elites who intended to make sure the lifestyles they treasured in NYC actually remained just the same. And of course by right-wing media. This cynically inflated, and conservatizing, national anxiety enabled and was an excuse for long lists of abuses of power.

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