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Gothmog

(145,635 posts)
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 05:31 PM Sep 2018

Debra Messing Reignites Her Political Feud With Susan Sarandon

I do not like Sarandon. She voted for Jill Stein because she wanted trump to win and for there to be some sort of revolution. Trump has done a ton of damage and Sarandon and Jill Stein supporters do not deserve any credit for increased number of women running. I agree with Debra Messing on this issue https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/debra-messing-reignites-her-political-feud-with-susan-sarandon/ar-BBNfcTV

Roses are red, violets are blue, Debra Messing and Susan Sarandon are feuding about leftist politics again — what’s new with you? After Sarandon told Variety that the only highlight of Donald Trump’s administration is that his policies have unintentionally inspired women and people of color to run for office, Debra Messing took her to task in a Twitter thread.

“STFU SUSAN,” Messing wrote Wednesday afternoon. “Oh yes, PLEASE let’s give Trump CREDIT. I mean how else are you able to walk out on the street.”




See for yourself: our long national nightmare — Sarandon and Messing not talking about politics — is over!


I agree with Debra Messing and I strongly disagree with Sarandon and any Jill Stein supporters.

A vote for Jill Stein was a vote for trump.
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Debra Messing Reignites Her Political Feud With Susan Sarandon (Original Post) Gothmog Sep 2018 OP
So now it's not Hillary who inspired women to run? LisaM Sep 2018 #1
Jill Stein is in Bed With the Russians dlk Sep 2018 #2
Well, she was definitely at the table... Wounded Bear Sep 2018 #5
Let's roll that beautiful bean footage, Duke. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2018 #68
From my twitter feed Gothmog Sep 2018 #3
I really do wish Sarandon would take her huge ego and stuff it OregonBlue Sep 2018 #42
Agreed Gothmog Sep 2018 #50
Jill Stein is in Bed With the Russians dlk Sep 2018 #4
Sarandon Loves the Trump "Revolution" NurseJackie Sep 2018 #6
Nothing wrong with being wrong gratuitous Sep 2018 #13
She's like Republicans in that way. Shameless. deurbano Sep 2018 #24
Yes. This kind of wrong is so hurtful to others that Hortensis Sep 2018 #60
WTG, Debra! You tell her! Sarandon must be taken to task over, and over and over lunamagica Sep 2018 #7
Fuck Susan Sarandon jcgoldie Sep 2018 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Dr Vegas Sep 2018 #9
Instead it's a Trump operative touting his achievements The Polack MSgt Sep 2018 #18
STFU, Susan! txwhitedove Sep 2018 #10
Sarandon must have spent her rich peoples tax cut money on a botox lobotomy. TeamPooka Sep 2018 #11
Or it accidentally crossed the brain barrier, which could explain her crazed look lately :-# TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #23
😹😹 Meowmee Sep 2018 #52
I like Susan Liberalagogo Sep 2018 #12
Trump inspired women to run for office. betsuni Sep 2018 #14
Fucking Suson Sarandon,,,not in bed with Jill Stein...in bed with.... Fucking Ralph Nader. Stuart G Sep 2018 #15
I Hear Nuclear War SDJay Sep 2018 #16
+1 Brilliant deduction. ffr Sep 2018 #21
From Bradley Whitford Gothmog Sep 2018 #17
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2018 #19
I'm Surprised The Dumpster Hasn't Already Presented Susan Surrenderon With ... DoctorJoJo Sep 2018 #20
I agree with them both. progressoid Sep 2018 #22
No, it's because of complacency. LisaM Sep 2018 #30
My tweet to Debra Messing.. Cha Sep 2018 #25
SS is certainly a very good, if not great, GWC58 Sep 2018 #31
You tell her, Cha! lunamagica Sep 2018 #39
SS is beyond Dispicable. Cha Sep 2018 #40
She is, and she should know by now we will never let this go! Not until she lunamagica Sep 2018 #41
Yeah, SS keeps trying to Gaslight us.. BullShit on Cha Sep 2018 #43
Sarandon is a waste of time mcar Sep 2018 #26
So is Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #29
Awww mcar Sep 2018 #32
Debra Messing Speaks the Truth.. Why would Cha Sep 2018 #45
The poster didn't explain mcar Sep 2018 #59
Dunno.. but I'm gonna kick this thread. Cha Sep 2018 #67
Hell NO.. Debra speaks the truth.. that's Never Cha Sep 2018 #44
Polls. sheshe2 Sep 2018 #27
Sarandon is a crazy f**king asshole. She did the same thing in 2000 by saying a vote for Gore is a still_one Sep 2018 #28
It's amazing how Susan Sarandon and Michael Moore both have projects timed to release just before Cha Sep 2018 #70
Well said. No doubt they inow that will get the most attention. still_one Sep 2018 #72
I Hope it BACKFIRES IMMEASUREABLY on Michael Moore and Susan Sarandon. Cha Sep 2018 #73
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Sep 2018 #74
Sarandon voted for Nader which was a vote for Bush Gothmog Sep 2018 #77
Trump inspires women and POC to run for office? Zambero Sep 2018 #33
Sarandon deserves credit for the makeup of the Supreme Court. oasis Sep 2018 #34
Yes, SS does own a big chunk of all the misery that Cha Sep 2018 #53
I enjoyed many of her movies. Her politics, not so much irisblue Sep 2018 #35
That is great Gothmog Sep 2018 #48
I won't go to a Susan Sarandon movie EVER again. calimary Sep 2018 #36
I boycotted that mini-series that she was in last year Gothmog Sep 2018 #47
I can't even stand to look at her damn picture Cha Sep 2018 #54
Me too, couldn't even bluedye33139 Sep 2018 #56
Looks like Sarandon is looking for a "save" for her all too obvious and bad "plan." Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #37
2nd kick!1 UTUSN Sep 2018 #38
From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Sep 2018 #46
And a disgruntled Bernie vote cast for Jill Stein was Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2018 #49
Damnit, Janet! SCRUBDASHRUB Sep 2018 #51
I love Messing bluedye33139 Sep 2018 #55
I hate social media and spell-checkers that don't work PJMcK Sep 2018 #57
Any third party vote in a two party system is a backdoor vote for ... marble falls Sep 2018 #58
The planet could be reduced to ash, and Susan Sarandon would still be sitting in her mansion telling Gothmog Sep 2018 #61
The only people who want to burn down the house are those who know they'd survive the fire gollygee Sep 2018 #62
"The only people who want to burn down the house are those who know they'd survive the fire..." padah513 Sep 2018 #63
How much did Susan get paid by the Russians? dreamland Sep 2018 #64
Susan Sarandon should really just crawl back under her rock ... and not come back out n/t SFnomad Sep 2018 #65
Susan Saranwrap sounds like one of those fools who believe 'Things have to get worse' Wolf Frankula Sep 2018 #66
OMG! Debra Messing is clearly wrong ashling Sep 2018 #69
Actually radical noodle Sep 2018 #75
oops ashling Sep 2018 #80
It's amazing how Susan Sarandon and Michael Moore both have projects timed to release just before Cha Sep 2018 #71
I will be ignoring both projects Gothmog Sep 2018 #78
Like Sir James II says.. " Cha Sep 2018 #79
What bizarre logic - Trump is good because he inspired people to run for office? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #76
From my twitter feed Gothmog Sep 2018 #81
Sarandon radical noodle Sep 2018 #82

OregonBlue

(7,755 posts)
42. I really do wish Sarandon would take her huge ego and stuff it
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 10:27 PM
Sep 2018

where the sun doesn't shine. She's not quite as bad as Trump but she sure likes to claim credit for things that have nothing to do with her. I can't believe I used to think she was so aware. Clueless.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. Sarandon Loves the Trump "Revolution"
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 05:39 PM
Sep 2018

It's what Susan Sarandon wanted. Just LOOK at how giddy and animated she is! She can barely contain her excitement at the horrors that await us.


Fuck you, Susan Sarandon!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. Nothing wrong with being wrong
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 05:59 PM
Sep 2018

But when you're this cataclysmically wrong, it's time to duck your head and withdraw from the conversation. Or at least own up to being wrong before popping off some more. Sarandon may have thought a sea change in politics would come about with the investiture of Donald Trump, but she obviously missed several salient points (chief among them that Congress predictably remained in Republican hands, and Republicans always assume an electoral win by any margin confers a mandate on them and whatever they decide their agenda is going to be, regardless of what they campaigned on).

Once that catastrophe began to manifest, it would have served Sarandon's credibility to say, "I was wrong. Horribly wrong. With ghastly results." Without that, though, there can't be a way forward for her to continue to comment on the current political scene.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
60. Yes. This kind of wrong is so hurtful to others that
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:11 AM
Sep 2018

it is a moral crime in itself.

Some people are obviously not wired to be politically responsible. They're so carried away by whatever has stirred their emotions and their conceit of moral superiority that they simply don't consider what their actions will do to others.

Doing that would require setting aside illusion and hypocrisy to accept responsibility, and would Sarandon even be capable without counseling? The national trauma of Trump hasn't accomplished it.

There has to be something really problematic going on with anyone who imagines empowering the evils of the right to fight Democrats is the moral thing to do. To a one, they may occasionally deplore something that's happening on the right, but they don't really seem to see it as serious, much less fear it.

A DU "Susan," who wanted to see a disastrously unqualified candidate elected, explained to me the other day that it was a matter of truth and integrity to those capable of loftier virtues. What citizens of high ideals give their country are votes taken as moral stands or statements, not their consequences in the real world.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
7. WTG, Debra! You tell her! Sarandon must be taken to task over, and over and over
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 05:40 PM
Sep 2018

again!

We will never forget, or let go, unless she SINCERELY admits she was wrong, and APOLOGIZES

Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
52. 😹😹
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 04:49 AM
Sep 2018

Sounds about right. I’m going to need a lobotamy if I have to listen to anymore of her garbage.

 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
12. I like Susan
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 05:59 PM
Sep 2018

as an actress.
But If you make me choose between Debra and Susan.......well, Susan, it's been nice knowin' ya.

betsuni

(25,684 posts)
14. Trump inspired women to run for office.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 06:02 PM
Sep 2018

Famine inspires people to lose weight. Flooding inspires people to learn how to swim. Outbreaks of deadly diseases inspires population control. Tragedies like 9/11 inspires patriotism. War inspires peace.

Stuart G

(38,449 posts)
15. Fucking Suson Sarandon,,,not in bed with Jill Stein...in bed with.... Fucking Ralph Nader.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 06:07 PM
Sep 2018

and I believe undercover money from rich republican who were never exposed. & that money allowed them to at least compete in the general election. Both of them

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
16. I Hear Nuclear War
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 06:13 PM
Sep 2018

leads to a nice solution to our overpopulation problem as well.

Holy shit is this woman full of hubris. Does she have any shame, or is she so protected in her entitlement bubble that she doesn't even understand how rightly reviled she is by so many?

ffr

(22,672 posts)
21. +1 Brilliant deduction.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 06:33 PM
Sep 2018


For the elite, like Susan Sarandon, tRump's presidency doesn't hurt too too bad. For the 99%, it's a nightmare that sucks every moment we are awake.
 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
20. I'm Surprised The Dumpster Hasn't Already Presented Susan Surrenderon With ...
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 06:30 PM
Sep 2018

... the Presidential Medal!

progressoid

(49,999 posts)
22. I agree with them both.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 06:36 PM
Sep 2018

Yes, STFU Susan Sarandon. Nobody (of consequence) cares what you think.

But, she's right. If not for the horror in the White House, we wouldn't be seeing the growth in people on the left entering politics. Of course, she's not the first person to say it. This concept is nothing new.

Whether it's House, Senate, or governor's races, that energy is largely one-sided, according to Deborah Walsh, director of the Center for American Women and Politics at Rutgers University.

...

And since his election, Trump has continued to dump gasoline on the already roaring fire of Democratic women's enthusiasm, according to Rutgers' Walsh.

"I've often thought that if you were an organizer out there trying to organize what is called the resistance or the women organizing the women who are thinking about running," Walsh said, "Donald Trump is the gift that keeps on giving in terms of motivation to stay engaged and stay involved and not lose your enthusiasm."

Everything from policies on health care and immigration to scandals like former White House staff secretary Rob Porter's resignation after allegations of domestic abuse continually combines to keep Democratic women energized, she said.

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/20/585542531/more-than-twice-as-many-women-are-running-for-congress-in-2018-compared-to-2016

LisaM

(27,843 posts)
30. No, it's because of complacency.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 07:47 PM
Sep 2018

People got complacent during the Clinton years, people got complacent during the Obama years. There have been lots of good candidates, but there is a kook element amongst voters that don't responds to peace and prosperity the way they should.

Cha

(297,774 posts)
25. My tweet to Debra Messing..
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 07:04 PM
Sep 2018
Susan Sarandon is nothing but a RF and I don't want to see anymore dribble out of her mouth.

Thank You for calling her Out, Debra Messing!

Mahalo, Goth!

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
31. SS is certainly a very good, if not great,
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 07:50 PM
Sep 2018

actor. That said I have no desire to ever see another one of her movies. EVER! When I see her all I see is the monstrosity that’s in the White House!

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
41. She is, and she should know by now we will never let this go! Not until she
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 10:27 PM
Sep 2018

admits she was wrong and apologizes, which will never happen.

still_one

(92,435 posts)
28. Sarandon is a crazy f**king asshole. She did the same thing in 2000 by saying a vote for Gore is a
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 07:18 PM
Sep 2018

vote for bush

As far as I am concerned Sarandon is trash, and conned enough naivee people in helping elect trump.

She has absolutely NO credibility, and entirely too much attention is given to that jerk

Who in the f**k is she? She is a rich celebrity, who doesn't have to worry about her healthcare, food, or shelter, and the only purpose she serves is a polarizing figure to divide progressives.


GO AWAY SARANDON, GET LOST!!!



Zambero

(8,974 posts)
33. Trump inspires women and POC to run for office?
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 07:57 PM
Sep 2018

Makes as much sense as suffocation inspiring a victim to gasp for air.

Cha

(297,774 posts)
53. Yes, SS does own a big chunk of all the misery that
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 05:35 AM
Sep 2018

has come to pass with the rigging in of trump.

This ".. POC and Women running for office.." doesn't make up for that shite, drip head.

Mahalo, oasis

irisblue

(33,036 posts)
35. I enjoyed many of her movies. Her politics, not so much
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 07:57 PM
Sep 2018

UnsilentMajority 🌹 (@The_UnSilent_) Tweeted:
Go away @SusanSarandon no one cares ✋🏻 https://t.co/bxUsI3wtTJ


calimary

(81,523 posts)
36. I won't go to a Susan Sarandon movie EVER again.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 07:58 PM
Sep 2018

Not EVER.

She can ask Jill Stein to go see her movies.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
37. Looks like Sarandon is looking for a "save" for her all too obvious and bad "plan."
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 08:17 PM
Sep 2018

Be aware: Some third party activists are all about their movement. They are not on the side of Democrats. They are not against Republicans or bad people in general. They have a goal, which is to push their movement. Some see both of the major parties as the same. They are not always our friends, even though we might think so, because they are closer to our views. They are not.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
49. And a disgruntled Bernie vote cast for Jill Stein was
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 01:40 AM
Sep 2018

also a vote against HRC. Not casting aspersions here just finishing the thought process. I could have easily been one of them but wasn't.

PJMcK

(22,056 posts)
57. I hate social media and spell-checkers that don't work
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 08:08 AM
Sep 2018

Ms. Messing hits it out of the park and puts Sarandon right into her place.

However, Ms. Messing included this word: properted. What the hell does that mean? Did she mean purported?

Her powerful-- and right!-- message are diminished by using TrumpWords™.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
62. The only people who want to burn down the house are those who know they'd survive the fire
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:28 AM
Sep 2018

And she knows she has enough money and privilege to survive the fire. To hell with everybody else.

padah513

(2,509 posts)
63. "The only people who want to burn down the house are those who know they'd survive the fire..."
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:48 AM
Sep 2018

You sir/madam are a poet! I wish I'd said that. Hope you don't mind if I borrow it.

dreamland

(964 posts)
64. How much did Susan get paid by the Russians?
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 10:21 AM
Sep 2018

It's obvious that she helped to put this country backwards.

Wolf Frankula

(3,602 posts)
66. Susan Saranwrap sounds like one of those fools who believe 'Things have to get worse'
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 01:21 PM
Sep 2018

before they can get better.' In 1930's Germany the Communists called it 'First Brown, Then Red." Hitler will fuck up, and we'll win the next election. But there WAS no next election, and for the Communists it was 'First Brown, Then Dead.'

SS, you're not going to get an Oscar Meyer Wiener.

Wolf

ashling

(25,771 posts)
69. OMG! Debra Messing is clearly wrong
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 07:27 PM
Sep 2018

She alleges that Susan Sarandon properted to care about the environment.

The word is purpoted



.......


other than that. she is exactly right

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,887 posts)
76. What bizarre logic - Trump is good because he inspired people to run for office?
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 11:33 PM
Sep 2018

Why do you think that is, Susan? It's kind of like saying cancer is good because it inspired people to become doctors.

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