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for those of you with fancy cars..'I thought I was going to die': Driver, 75, gets trapped in Cadillac inside his garage for 14 HOURS in 70 degree heat due to a key fob malfunction
Peter Pyros, 75, was trapped in his car for 14 hours due to an electrical fault
He feared he was going to die as he passed out twice and urinated inside his shoe as temperatures in Cleveland last month soared to 70 degrees
A neighbor heard Pyros banging on the window for help and called authorities
The pensioner wrote a letter to his loved ones explaining how he got locked inside the car as he thought they might think that he tried to commit suicide
Pyros said he rarely drives his Cadillac, but thought he should run the engine as winter approaches.
He said he went out to his garage to start the car at 10am on August 31.
He didn't take his cellphone with him, he said, and he didn't tell anyone what he was doing. He didn't think he needed to.
He told the Washington Post: 'It was the most horrifying experience you can imagine.
'I accepted, at some point, that this is how I'm going to die.
'It's like you're in a safe and you don't know how to get out of it.'
Pyros, who lives alone, claimed that he pressed his mouth to the door and screamed for help, but no one was home to hear him.
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In a statement to the Washington Post, General Motors said that 'any vehicle or key fob can lose power' and 'that risk can increase as the vehicle ages.'
'Manufacturers provide a way to manually unlock the doors if the vehicle or fob loses power,' it said.
'Because this varies by make and model, drivers should review the Door Lock section of their owner's manual so they will know what to do.
In the case of the XLR, there is a door release handle located on the floor, next to each seat.'
Pyros said he did not know there was a door release handle and, even if he had thought to read the owner's manual, it was too steamy in the car to see it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6160329/An-elderly-man-gets-trapped-inside-Cadillac-14-hours-electrical-malfunction.html
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Lol.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Which is 158 F😱
mythology
(9,527 posts)What and nobody else noticed that it was more than 60 degrees higher than the highest recorded temperature?
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Seriously.
Glad the guy is ok, but this sounds like a tabloid story.
sl8
(13,931 posts)Mr. Pyros says it was over 100℉ inside the car.
https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2018/09/11/cleveland-cadillac-xlr-roadster/1260451002/
Ms. Toad
(34,111 posts)Last time I checked, Washington still measures temperatures in fahrenheit.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2018/09/10/i-cant-believe-im-alive-year-old-recalls-horrifying-day-trapped-hot-car/?utm_term=.69ffd2a0550b
I think the authors of the UK article didn't stop to think about temperature conversion, uttered "Yee Gods, that's hot," to themselves, and added the hyperbole (absent from the WAPO story).
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Under my theory he would have been cooked like pot roast.
Ms. Toad
(34,111 posts)12 hours (or however long it was) at 158 degrees (in or out of the car), he would not be alive to tell his tale.
hlthe2b
(102,405 posts)yardwork
(61,712 posts)See post 35 below.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)California_Republic
(1,826 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Demovictory9
(32,479 posts)California_Republic
(1,826 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,095 posts)If it's like the one in my car, the handle is made of glow-in-the-dark plastic.
Demovictory9
(32,479 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Always make sure you use handcuffs or zip ties before you put someone in the trunk. Otherwise, they can get out!
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)kcr
(15,320 posts)Still, I think that would be over 150 degrees.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)kcr
(15,320 posts)Poor guy. I'm glad his neighbor heard him.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)70 degree heat?
What am I missing here?
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,216 posts)It was too steamy to read at 70 F?
tblue37
(65,490 posts)http://heatkills.org/how-hot/
In a closed, stuffy garage, I bet the temperature would rise even faster inside the car.
Farmer-Rick
(10,216 posts)I think there might have been a mistake about temperature. Otherwise It just doesn't make sense.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Because pulling lightly on a handle is just slightly more difficult than pushing a button, but when that button breaks...
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)You don't hear me complaining
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I took my automatic out and replaced it with a manual because...luddite! (and because I wanted to mess around getting greasy).
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)It's an automatic.
tblue37
(65,490 posts)is, well, a tablet, with lined paper and a pencil.
Just kidding.
Ms. Toad
(34,111 posts)After her car was totaled a couple of years ago, and we had to look for a new one, she wouldn't even consider an automatic.
(All of our cars were manual, until I had to buy the uncommon model I wanted used (they stopped making it) - and no manual ones were on the market. Then my spouse switched. So the lone holdout is our daughter. (Although, if I have the option on my next car, it will be manual.)
NutmegYankee
(16,201 posts)Wont buy a vehicle without stick shift.
kcr
(15,320 posts)No one else does so boring automatic it is. One of these days I'm going to treat myself.
Donkees
(31,474 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Rhiannon12866
(206,193 posts)hlthe2b
(102,405 posts)Mine is like the yellow one in the video:
GoCubsGo
(32,095 posts)This particular one has a seat belt cutter. Some versions have a whistle and/or a mini flashlight on them, as well.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)EllieBC
(3,042 posts)Bought one for my husband too. Its lightweight and gives a little peace of mind.
GoCubsGo
(32,095 posts)Got it as a gift. Hope I'll never need to use it.
RockRaven
(15,019 posts)I call BS. Look, I get that he's likely embarrassed (for several reasons) about this whole episode, but c'mon.
First, he tacitly admits he *didn't even look* in the owner's manual. He spent 14 hours in the car, passing out twice, pissing in a shoe to avoid just wetting himself (and the car seat)... and didn't look up how to open the car door in the owner's manual. Not thinking to look in the owner's manual in the first 5 minutes can be chalked up to panicking. Not having the owner's manual in the car interior is bad planning. But supposedly having access to is but not TRYING to read it... for 14 hours? What... were... you... thinking????
Secondly, there is no way in hell the car interior was so steamy you *can't read* a piece of paper/book that you are holding in your hand. Not in a closed system like a car interior at stable temperatures and pressures. It may have been very humid, but the condensing humidity would gather on the surfaces, not be airborne. Say you didn't have your reading glasses. That I'd buy. Don't give me this "too steamy" business.
flying rabbit
(4,644 posts)I call dumbassery or more likely, lawsuitery.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)ecstatic
(32,737 posts)I make it a point to put the book back, or better yet, just read the manual online.
That being said, this story stinks. Cadillacs don't have standard, easily accessible auto lock/unlock buttons like every other car?! Sounds like a huge security risk. Dumb and dangerous design!
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)I suppose I could keep it in the trunk, but it wouldn't do me a whole lot of good there. One thing though, I did read it. All of it. I'm kind of compulsive about that. I read all of the inserts in all meds and stuff like that, too.
Of course the car has a manual lock/unlock mechanism. They all do. My guess is that it just looks different from what he's familiar with and he didn't recognize it.
renate
(13,776 posts)Its ridiculous that not being able to read the small print could have killed me if I were in his situation, but it would have.
sl8
(13,931 posts)I agree, the 'too steamy to read" was an odd thing to say. For that matter, why point out that it didn't occur to him to read the manual, if the manual wasn't in the car.
Maybe he was still discombobulated when he gave the interview.
sl8
(13,931 posts)...
An investigation
Pyros' car could not be opened using the fire department's usual crowbars, so a fireman instructed Pyros to pop the hood, he said. Then, rescuers jumped-started the engine, opened the doors and freed Pyros. He spent the night in the hospital recovering.
Days later, he found in the owner's manual the directions to a mechanical door release handle on the floor next to each seat.
That brief instruction in the vast owner's manual is unacceptable to Pyros' lawyers who are investigating the case and, "Looking at all avenues of litigation. We are in touch with other attorneys who have pursued similar actions against General Motors," said John Meros, partner at Schulman, Schulman and Meros in Cleveland. Meros said his firm is working with another Cleveland law firm, Friedman, Domiano, and Smith on the incident.
"Automakers must have recognized that with all-electric features and the power failing, youre locked inside your car," said Meros. "Why not put a warning sticker on the visor or dashboard that says if the power fails and in the event of entrapment, there is an escape lever on the floor?"
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More at link.
MineralMan
(146,336 posts)I take it in the house with me, and read the damned thing. I'm always surprised by some feature or operation I didn't know about. With used cars, if the manual is missing, a search on ebay will turn one up right away for most cars.
On another note, though, the increasing complexity of even the most common features in cars is a little troubling to me. I don't actually want a car that asks me to push a button to open the door. If there's a button for that, the electronics or electrical component that actually pulls the lever will fail at some point. I don't need to reduce my effort in opening the door to that degree. That doesn't seem to be a desirable feature at all.
Still, I would have learned about the manual lever next to the seat when I read the manual. I always learn things I wouldn't know by doing that. Things like the nuances of the cruise control system, which has features most people never learn about.
These days, most cars also have a display of some sort on the dash, either touch screen or with a bunch of buttons. Most people never really learn how to use all the features of that display. They never read the owner's manual.
For me, learning as much as possible about a vehicle I own is something I want to do as soon as I can.
MineralMan
(146,336 posts)Beep, beep,beep --Beeeep, beeeep, beeeep -- Beep, beep beep.
Demovictory9
(32,479 posts)magicarpet
(14,181 posts)WillowTree
(5,325 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Demovictory9
(32,479 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,478 posts)showed up last week. 2 guys were going to push it out of the way, but it was in Park and steering wheel was locked. Luckily, one of them knew there was a manual override for the gear shift and a way to unlock the wheel. I've had the car for 4 years and didn't know.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That is the only "no deal" requirement that I have.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If I have a relative who is a child on my car, I don't want that person to be having to figure out how to get out of the car in case I am unconscious and the car has a severe danger going on. Sounds ridiculous, but stuff like that happens.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)Demovictory9
(32,479 posts)struggle4progress
(118,378 posts)marybourg
(12,639 posts)and breaks windows easily.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)He did not want to damage his car.
If nothing else he could kick out the side window.
But I guess maybe some people just freeze.
Demovictory9
(32,479 posts)rather than smash windows
ecstatic
(32,737 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,047 posts)Passengers are not going to know about such arrangements. You are supposed to read a brochure of safety instructions when you board a car, like boarding a jet?
I don't see how such an arrangement can be legal. I'm surprised nobody has died in a crash that way.
KG
(28,753 posts)sl8
(13,931 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)Break the friggin window if in a panic. He tried? He may say he did, but probably didn't.
Siwsan
(26,298 posts)I have a 2002 Saturn. The front seat doors have automatic locks that can be manually pulled up to unlock.