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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsso why do so many miilions of latinx vote trump/repub? why vote for a group that wants you
deported to anywhere they can send you outside the US? Seems to me after those kids were kidnapped from their parents and put in concentration camps that would arouse a lot more opposition than it has, considering almost all those victimized were latin/hispanic
MaryMagdaline
(6,856 posts)Takes them a while to learn that Democrats are not really Marxists and not even very good Socialists. Ana Navarro is a good example. Family fled Communism in nicaragua. After decades here, she is really more of a conservative Democrat. But getting likeminded republican friends to vote democratic is a struggle.
Here in south Florida we have many Hispanics who equate Democrats with lawless leftist regimes south of the border who will take private property or permit kidnappings.
And many of them are racist, too. The more native you are, the lower you are in the caste system. They do not all see Mexicans or native Central Americans as their equals.
Livluvgrow
(377 posts)Religion also plays a role. Catholics wont vote for those who support abortion. There are also many hispanics who are multigenerational citizens and don't agree with moe permissive immigration policies.
msongs
(67,459 posts)of unknown status. many mexican americans seemed to think immigrants were lowering the quality of life, taking jobs, bla bla bla same stuff repubs say. sorta ironic because it is repub policies that are actually lowering the quality of life and taking away jobs and security for everyone, citizen, immigrants alike
kimbutgar
(21,219 posts)He is so hispanic looking ICE would pick him up off the street by appearance alone. He is a major right winger who hated President Obama with a passion, he thinks The orange maggot is making America great again. Ok withmigrants being detained, tax cuts and all the other evil policies.
But its obvious the guy has been throughly brain washed for many years. My husband said 9-11 made him political. He commutes 60 miles each way to his job in SF. 1-2 1/2 hours each way listening to Rush,Sean Levin etc, he is so far gone he cant even talk without echoing a talking point. My hubby sometimes asks him questions that short circuit his brainwashing. The guy is a case study of a person supporting a racist who wouldnt give him the time of day by his appearance alone. Unfortunately many people who are not white continue to support him. My thesis is they have been brain washed steadily by neural programming.the maggot perfected the talking points.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)After Trump fire up his goons vis a vis immigrants, he would be lucky to escape with a third degree beating.
kimbutgar
(21,219 posts)Brains can be marbelized.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)And another dark skinned Trumper and see how things work out for them.
doc03
(35,389 posts)treated bad 100 years ago have no empathy for today's immigrants
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I have often wondered the same thing.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Seems to be prevalent in most, if not all, cultures.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Plus time is a factor. 3rd, 4th, 5th generation people never see the discrimination that their ancestors saw, plus, they ignore that their ancestors lived in insular communities for their own protection.
ansible
(1,718 posts)I've had to argue with many who already get offended with the term "latin american" and refuse to be associated with poorer, darker-skinned latinos.
JI7
(89,278 posts)a pat on the head from racist whites.
agincourt
(1,996 posts)that I can just out think and out work everybody else. Misplaced faith in individual abilities instead of political identity.
UTUSN
(70,761 posts)demonstrating that they *want* to assimilate by studying the history and reciting it back into a test and are indoctrinated into equating wingnuttiness with being "American". Also, legitimately, lots of these really are running from oppressive socio-economic systems and *want* 19th Century unfettered Robber Baron capitalism. These are ones who are out wingnuts, who exalt their "legal" immigration, degrade the more desperate undocumented immigrants, claim that the latter take jobs, etc.
Another thing is that all countries, here the Spanish speaking, have their own spectrum of politics ranging from Left to Right, rich to poor. The first generation of Cuban exiles were from the rich/oppressive class, and there are those in the other countries.
2- As for the longer residing Hispanics who support the BUSHes: Shrub and Jeb grew up around them, heck Jeb married a Mexican, and they see the local Hispanics as hooman beings, know a few words in Spanish (Jeb knows lots), and SMILE with them. Tweety said yesterday he doesn't get why Shrub got 40% of Hispanics, it was because Shrub knew little enough how to pronounce "Beto" (not Tweety's "bay-toe" ) - it's beh-toh (short "e" and "o" ) . All it takes is some smiles and hugs and whooping it up instead of being stuck up. Guess what, Shrub is perceived by them as friendlier than Tweety who sees them as "foreign". The upside is that all other Repukes don't have the co-habiting background that the BUSHes do.
3- "many millions vote repuke"? - See 1&2, but the real problem is that as Paul BEGALA said, "not RED, but NON-VOTING". Most DON'T vote. And despite that Repuke voter suppression is disgusting and outrageous, the true secret is that they are wasting their efforts, because Hispanics SUPPRESS THEMSELVES by not voting. Also, the absurd wingnut focus on non-existent "voter fraud" and "illegals voting" - undocumented immigrants are NOT voting, are too focused on their own desperate situation, and the destitute residents are beset with their day to day SUBSISTENCE to care about keeping up with the news or to study who might help them politically, don't have the time or luxury to keep up with anything beyond daily SUBSISTENCE. And, not to bolster wingnut views, but guess what, undocumented immigrants who are detained might see being in climate controlled facilities with meals as a vast improvement over the conditions they are fleeing - plu-eeze, no flaming over this, thanks.
ChoppinBroccoli
(3,784 posts)What I really want to know is how they can be a member of a Party that openly hates them, and clearly doesn't even think of them as human. Why would you call yourself a member of that group? It's disturbing to me, and the gay Republican I know gleefully spouts their talking points about Obama being a Muslim and all that stuff.