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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts) Thu Sep 13, 2018, 08:33 AM Sep 2018

Trump' "Pay To Protest" Plan Unveiled - Daily Kos.

Under a new plan if you have a large protest organizers will have to pay for all th cops, barricades, special arrangements et al before the protest is approved. Under the Trump lan the US government would be able to assess organizers thousands of dollars if they use public property administered by the federal government. This policy would see a precedent for government entities all across the United States if you plan to protest on public property.

So free speech will have a few if you disagree with Republicans mostly. We are in a new era or suppression.

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Trump' "Pay To Protest" Plan Unveiled - Daily Kos. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Sep 2018 OP

KGOP repubes twist free speech into Speech for the Rich* Achilleaze Sep 2018 #1

Sounds like he got this idea from Putin. I suppose the cops will start charging for shooting?? winstars Sep 2018 #2

Sounds like Stephen Miller's influence. Frustratedlady Sep 2018 #3

Link? Preferably to a news source, but even to the Kos poster claiming this would help (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2018 #4

Our protests are already crowd-funded... Zoonart Sep 2018 #5

"Congress shall make NO law...abridging...the right of the People...to assemble..." raging moderate Sep 2018 #6

I was just going to ask if this was Constitutional. Ohiogal Sep 2018 #7

Yes. The Poll Tax was ruled UnConstitutional, because it abridged the right to vote. raging moderate Sep 2018 #8

+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #11

Kavaugh Would Rule A Speech Tax Constitutional. TheMastersNemesis Sep 2018 #9

OK folks, this is real simple as far as I'm concerned: Volaris Sep 2018 #10

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)

1. KGOP repubes twist free speech into Speech for the Rich*

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 08:36 AM

Sep 2018

Twisty republican bastards. No money? STFU. This sounds like another kremlin directive that the KGOP repubes are meekly following. Sick. unAmerican.

winstars

(4,220 posts)

2. Sounds like he got this idea from Putin. I suppose the cops will start charging for shooting??

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 08:37 AM

Sep 2018

people now????

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)

3. Sounds like Stephen Miller's influence.

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 08:38 AM

Sep 2018

Don't they have more important things to do? Hurricanes, getting kids back to their families, impeaching their leader?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)

4. Link? Preferably to a news source, but even to the Kos poster claiming this would help (nt)

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 08:43 AM

Sep 2018

Zoonart

(11,869 posts)

5. Our protests are already crowd-funded...

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 08:44 AM

Sep 2018

they call it taxes. BTW I could be wrong, but I think the French crowd-funded the guillotine.
Just sayin.

raging moderate

(4,305 posts)

6. "Congress shall make NO law...abridging...the right of the People...to assemble..."

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 08:52 AM

Sep 2018

US Constitution, First Amendment:
"Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." I realize that Trump leads the Executive Branch, not the Congress. But doesn't the Bill of Rights generally have a strong influence over our entire US government?

Ohiogal

(32,006 posts)

7. I was just going to ask if this was Constitutional.

Reply to raging moderate (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:14 AM

Sep 2018

Thanks for answering my question, raging moderate!

raging moderate

(4,305 posts)

8. Yes. The Poll Tax was ruled UnConstitutional, because it abridged the right to vote.

Reply to Ohiogal (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:20 AM

Sep 2018

Wouldn't this Protest Tax (really, that is what it is, fully as much as the Poll Tax was a tax on voting) also be UnConstitutional?

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)

11. +1000

Reply to raging moderate (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 06:29 AM

Sep 2018

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)

9. Kavaugh Would Rule A Speech Tax Constitutional.

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2018, 11:54 PM

Sep 2018

Volaris

(10,272 posts)

10. OK folks, this is real simple as far as I'm concerned:

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Sep 14, 2018, 01:00 AM

Sep 2018

IF the government doesn't want to pay cops overtime (and 'supplies' that become necessary when people decide to protest dumb shit that the government does), then MAYBE it would be in the governments best interest NOT to do the Dumb Shit that people are gonna protest.

I KNOW that's askin A LOT, but maybe try it for say ten years, and let's see where that gets us.
Just throwin that out there.
For the bean-counters to contemplate...

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