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kentuck

(111,104 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:25 AM Sep 2018

America is paralyzed until something is done about the Trump "problem".

As of right now, the earliest something can be done is early November, when people vote in the mid-term elections.

Some have deceived themselves into believing that the economy is booming because of the leadership and policies of Donald Trump. In truth, it is happening in spite of Donald Trump. The huge taxcuts and the cuts in regulations have put dollar signs in the eyes of every businessman in America. The stock market roared with enthusiasm.

Unfortunately, the damage done with the repeal of regulations and the huge increase in the national deficit have yet to be recognized. However, many economists will say that this is the beginning of the end of the "Obama recovery", which began after the previous Republican economic disaster.

But, the ""Trump problem" is much more than just the economy. There is a criminal sitting in the White House. The instability and the incompetence, coupled with the criminality, has frozen America in place. There can be no progress, or any movement at all, until something is resolved with the lying narcissist sitting in the people's White House.

If the Democrats cannot take control of the House in November, America will remain paralyzed until Mr Mueller exposes the "con" job perpetrated on the American people.

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America is paralyzed until something is done about the Trump "problem". (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2018 OP
This Is the beginning of the end of the recovery strangedaysindeed Sep 2018 #1
Queue. In the queue. hedda_foil Sep 2018 #5
... A HERETIC I AM Sep 2018 #14
America is paralyzed by conservatives apnu Sep 2018 #2
Exactly zipplewrath Sep 2018 #7
I'm 45, I've seen American politics change in my life time apnu Sep 2018 #10
Trump isn't the problem leftstreet Sep 2018 #3
Agreed Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #15
Yep malaise Sep 2018 #4
I Am Almost 72 Years Old ConstanceCee Sep 2018 #6
The Dems will again inherit an economic and social mess not easily fixed or even partially fixed. BSdetect Sep 2018 #8
Someone who is totally incompetent - but in power - can foul things up royally bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #9
agree--the coup needs to be reversed before any other action is taken librechik Sep 2018 #11
Here in Europe, I am constantly asked, "how does your country even continue to function?" DFW Sep 2018 #12
"America is paralyzed." That is exactly how I would describe our current situation. Nitram Sep 2018 #13
The bad guys stupid people let get into power are not paralyzed, Hortensis Sep 2018 #16
 

strangedaysindeed

(226 posts)
1. This Is the beginning of the end of the recovery
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:57 AM
Sep 2018

what's 'in the cue' right now is still another Republican economic disaster.

and it's going to make 2008 look like a garden party.

apnu

(8,758 posts)
2. America is paralyzed by conservatives
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 10:04 AM
Sep 2018

Trump is a conservative problem. But even before Trump, Conservatives were the problem.

Stagnation under Obama? All Conservatives doing that.

The Iraq war, its obscene cost? Conservatives.

Education mess? Conservatives.

Run away debt? Conservatives.

A sleep at the wheel for 9/11? Conservatives.

Destruction of the unions? Conservatives.

Modern Day Jim Crow and resurgence of racism? Conservatives.

Trump is just the latest in a long line of Conservative screw ups and hissy fits.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
7. Exactly
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 10:22 AM
Sep 2018

The GOP should be embarrassed by the string of morons they've gotten elected president since Eisenhower.

You've got the crook, the actor, his flunkie, the lying war monger, and the traitor.

apnu

(8,758 posts)
10. I'm 45, I've seen American politics change in my life time
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 12:22 PM
Sep 2018

I remember as a kid listening to adults talk politics in the 70s and 80s. I've always been a natural liberal in a conservative family on my father's side, so I didn't agree or understand their arguments much, but it was intelligent talk. Also it was rational adults debating issues rationally and respectfully.

Then Newt Gingrich showed up in 1994 and changed everything.

Not only did the Republican party and the Conservative movement take a hard right turn, it also got mean and clannish. They've been this way ever since. Then W came along, bringing with him a willful ignorance and under him the party actually purged what remained of its intelligentsia. Suddenly George Will, who is not dumb, and his ilk had no home. And they're still outside looking in today.

Its astounding. Republicans are now the party of mean, stupid people and nothing else.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
15. Agreed
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 05:31 AM
Sep 2018

That is certainly true. He is not the problem, but those who enable him are the ones who keep this train wreck going down the track.

ConstanceCee

(314 posts)
6. I Am Almost 72 Years Old
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 10:21 AM
Sep 2018

I just want to stay alive and alert until all of this is over and we are well on our way to recovering. It's starting. I can't wait.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
8. The Dems will again inherit an economic and social mess not easily fixed or even partially fixed.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 10:28 AM
Sep 2018

As well as continued obstruction and hate.

Wealth and or income inequality is only one small issue to be addressed.




bucolic_frolic

(43,196 posts)
9. Someone who is totally incompetent - but in power - can foul things up royally
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 10:42 AM
Sep 2018

it's true in families, it's true in business, it's doubly true in government where the foul ups impact everything the government does, which is to say everything

librechik

(30,674 posts)
11. agree--the coup needs to be reversed before any other action is taken
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 01:34 PM
Sep 2018

issues and so forth needs to take a backseat for now--and we should rescind gorsuch and other noms because a criminal was in the WH

DFW

(54,410 posts)
12. Here in Europe, I am constantly asked, "how does your country even continue to function?"
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:15 AM
Sep 2018

I explain that we are on a kind of national auto-pilot.

I have flown back to the USA a total of six times now since the election of 2016. What has changed physically, and for me personally? Not a whole hell of a lot. The ocean water off of Cape Cod is a little warmer, but it has been getting progressively warmer for two decades now. A few people I know have retired, some have gotten married, one has died (he was 91 and ill with cancer). But we keep on keeping on, and try to spend our short time there with the good people we always spend time with.

But the awful changes we know are coming will be slow to manifest themselves in the eyes of the superficial visitor (Lawrence, Massachusetts is not on the list of "must-see" places in New England). The horrible part is that it will take just as long, if not longer, to reverse them.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
13. "America is paralyzed." That is exactly how I would describe our current situation.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:07 AM
Sep 2018

With a Senate, a House and a President working for power rather than for the people, we can only try to obstruct, and have precious little ability to do even that. All we can do is vote, and vote we will.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. The bad guys stupid people let get into power are not paralyzed,
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 05:57 AM
Sep 2018

though. As you say. I agree with everything but that paralysis word. Far more is happening than cable news talks about, and the right is far from paralyzed.

They're very busy at work destroying what they don't like in our government, institutionalizing corruption to serve them, packing our courts with right-wing extremists, and diverting America's wealth and power to them before they lose control of congress. If they keep control of congress, overdrive gets shifted into hyperdrive.

The one place we have an advantage is through the justice system. Much slower, acting after damage is done and only able to undo part, but the courts aren't paralyzed and are still by far mostly our weapon. But there also a very dynamic right is close to crippling the left.

And removing the president won't stop them. But taking control of BOTH houses can.

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