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DownriverDem
(6,229 posts)High School? repubs won't care.
LandOfHopeAndDreams
(872 posts)His nomination might be in trouble were that the case.
BootinUp
(47,165 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)At least please don't let it be one of those he says/she says things. Please let her have reported it at least to the school. A suppressed police record would be great, but not as great as accepting a bribe or something Republicans would have more difficulty with.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)dear god if there was a WHIFF of a hint that he EVER commited perjury over anything he would not even get a hearing.
True Dough
(17,306 posts)I believe the stories are stating that Kavanaugh contacted former Judge Alex Kozinski, who was accused of sexual misconduct by multiple women.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/13/politics/kavanaugh-kozinski/index.html
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)RandySF
(58,911 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)WASHINGTON The senior Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee referred information involving Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh, President Trumps nominee to the Supreme Court, to federal investigators on Thursday, but the senator declined to make public what the matter involved.
Two officials familiar with the matter say the incident involved possible sexual misconduct between Judge Kavanaugh and a woman when they were both in high school.
The statement by Senator Dianne Feinstein of California came a week before the Judiciary Committee is to vote on his nomination. I have received information from an individual concerning the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, Ms. Feinstein said in a statement. That individual strongly requested confidentiality, declined to come forward or press the matter further, and I have honored that decision. I have, however, referred the matter to federal investigative authorities.
The information came in a letter, which was first sent to the office of Representative Anna Eshoo, Democrat of California, and included the allegation of sexual misconduct toward the letters author, a person familiar with the letter confirmed.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)dozens of reasons he should not get this far.
A democrat cant get a hearing with zero wrongdoing, a con who lies to the committee can and will be confirmed.
America is broken, very badly, and the result will be immediate harm and death to women and others.
ScratchCat
(1,990 posts)or we just shot ourselves in the foot.
A decades-old state matter isn't the business of the FBI. There has to be something else here that rises to a federal level.
unblock
(52,253 posts)they're not looking to prosecute him for an old state-level crime.
they're primarily just looking to properly evaluate him for the job he's applying for.
that said, lying on the fbi background check forms is indeed a federal offense.
dsc
(52,162 posts)He lied on his prior to becoming HUD secretary and was convicted of that. He paid a fine and his career was over.
unblock
(52,253 posts)yup, knew it!
dsc
(52,162 posts)LeftInTX
(25,382 posts)The incident happened in the late 80's a few years before he was HUD Secretary and during one his mayoral campaigns.
dsc
(52,162 posts)the theory here is that he lied on his backround check.
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)given the long time span since occurrence. Not that I'd discount, of course, but that was a very long time ago.
RandySF
(58,911 posts)ScratchCat
(1,990 posts)that the author didn't want to press the matter further. So why did she make that statement and forward it to the FBI? I don't feel good about this. This looks like they couldn't stop him with legitimate criticism, so they are dredging up something from... high school?
Please be wrong and be about perjury. Please.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Not "dredging up," little Kroshka; but rather, sanding relevant information to the FBI so they may continue Kavanaugh's background check.
Igel
(35,320 posts)"Little Crumb"?
Or are you trying a bit too hard for "Koshka" ("she-cat" ?
Might be relevant; might just be "let's catch a few hertz on the news cycle with something unproveable". With the NYT's "we heard something from somebody who heard something from something from somebody who said the letter said something, but what, um, not sure."
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Part of being a supreme court justice is being heavily vetted by the feds. That means he was questioned by them. If he lied about something from his past, he could get charged with a crime. Sen Feinstein wouldn't have held up the nomination over bullshit.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)She SENT a letter. That implies she does think it should matter. She can not take it forward in a court of law because the statute of limitations ended long ago.
I think Feinstein handled this perfectly. I assume before it goes forward, there the accuser would have to be willing to be public.
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)He's already committed perjury and no one on their side cares, so why would you hope it's perjury??
magicarpet
(14,155 posts)..... mentioned on his previous court confirmations years ago and more recently for this Supreme Court FBI background vetting check.
If he lied back when and more recently it could very well derail his confirmation. The more lies they can nail this guy on the better. He does not belong on the highest court of the land, like trDump trash like this makes a mockery of our system and degrades the very foundations of a vibrant Democracy.
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Vinca
(50,278 posts)a difference decades later. I'm not sure if a juvenile record could even be brought up.
alfredo
(60,074 posts)madville
(7,412 posts)Age of consent in Maryland is 16 and the older partner must be at least 4 years older for it to be a crime.
14 is the legal age if their partner is less than 4 years older, so a 17 year old can have sex with a 14 year old for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States#Maryland
Only like 12 states have 18 as the age of consent and most allow for a 2-4 year age difference regardless.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Game changer deluxe.
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)erronis
(15,303 posts)Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)An abortion for his indiscretion, while likely to overturn Roe v. Wade?
erronis
(15,303 posts)Boys will be boys.
And apparently the repuglicon female senators will let this slide (with a bit of grease.)
Fla Dem
(23,691 posts)it's a non-starter. But if rape, then entirely different story. But as other have said, why would Sen Feinstein escalate to FBI if a trivial high school sexcapade?
TheFarseer
(9,323 posts)A case where he was 18 and had sex with his girlfriend who was 17. Something like that would be so weak.
erronis
(15,303 posts)silently supporting the RW agendas.
I think I read that he might have croaked a phrase or two in the last year once his black-robed protector kicked his bucket.
samir.g
(835 posts)Catherine Vincent
(34,490 posts)IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)As other posters have said, if it's not gender violence or rape, it won't matter one bit. People do stupid shit in high school, even more so when there was little awareness about the importance of consent.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)it while being questioned by the feds in order to get a lifetime appointment to the high court. That's still a crime and would have occurred in the last few months since his nomination.
avebury
(10,952 posts)consideration when selecting people for higher office.
Zambero
(8,964 posts)And his motive was not an honorable one. Plenty of evidence with which to sink this nomination. Still, much of it is surfacing.
Freethinker65
(10,024 posts)Even if he beat and then forced his girlfriend to have an abortion, it really would not matter to those confident he will rule from the bench the way he is instructed to. He does not seem like an independent type of guy. He is bought and paid for...unlike Justice Roberts, though also very conservative, who does seem to at least take the US Constitution into consideration for his rulings.
Unless Kavanuagh pulls his name, the GOP will confirm him. They own him and he came cheap.
aikoaiko
(34,172 posts)Which could be parlayed into something bigger to defeat Kav.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)So it pretty much dies right there.
aikoaiko
(34,172 posts)john657
(1,058 posts)the only action the FBI took was to forward the letter to the WH for inclusion into Kavanaugh's background folder.
TexasTowelie
(112,252 posts)1. Did he cross state lines with the girl? If they were going to school in DC, then it would be quite easy to cross a state border with a minor.
2. There may not have been a sexual relationship occurring between the two. However, he might have "pimped" her out which would be even more morally repugnant than rape.
RandySF
(58,911 posts)Did he lie on any background forms in 2018, when he was first nominated to the federal bench or went to work for Ken Starr?
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Used tickets.
That's the rumor going around.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)* It's OK If You Are A Republican.
catbyte
(34,403 posts)At least he and Clarence will have something to bond over, Despicable.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)This is an all-boys catholic school. It's 60-70k/year to attend with a heavy emphasis on religion as well as academics. Very preppy. I'm sure plenty of students are well-connected to the legal and political world of DC.
I would not be the least bit surprised if these boys felt entitled to any and all extracurricular activities when they went out on dates or if they felt entitled to take advantage of girls they met.
It's definitely old, but then again a grand jury report of catholic priest abuses going back to the 1950s is currently rocking the catholic church.
RandySF
(58,911 posts)Did he falsify statements when he went to work for Ken Starr, George W Bush or the Federal bench?
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)he did was a crime. I don't think the FBI goes back to high school in its background investigations. If the letter writer didn't contact them, how would they know to go back that far?
mercuryblues
(14,532 posts)While they were in high school? She got pregnant and her pushed her into an abortion? He has a secret kid out there because she refused to have an abortion, despite his demands?
As we know, people like Kavanaugh are only anti abortion when it doesn't affect them. When they have an unwanted pregnancy, they can't get to the Dr fast enough
The only moral abortion is my abortion
http://www.prochoiceactionnetwork-canada.org/articles/anti-tales.shtml
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I so want to see this hypocritical, smarmy bastard go down.
calguy
(5,315 posts)to most of the country,including myself. I never committed any sexual misconduct in high school, but I sure thought about it. All the time.
If that's all they got on him we've lost the battle.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)Im not claiming he did that but there are scenarios that would be relevant.
calguy
(5,315 posts)All I'm saying is it looks like we're playing our last few cards. And those cards are usually Jokers.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)We shalll see.
john657
(1,058 posts)all they did was pass it on to the WH to have it included in Kavanaugh's background folder.
Sen. Grassley has already said that the confirmation vote is going ahead on the 20th.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)So there must be something significant.
john657
(1,058 posts)if there was something to investigate, they would have investigate.
The author of the letter made it quite clear to Sen. Feinstein that she didn't want her name revealed, no further action taken on the letter.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)The fact they sent it on to be included in the official record indicates they think its legitimate.. imo.
MichMary
(1,714 posts)maybe she is of questionable mental stability, which is why DiFi has hung onto this letter since July, and why she is being so careful about respecting the confidentiality.
This kind of reminds me of some allegations against W, which got our hopes up and then turned out to be bullshit, because the woman was clearly mentally ill.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)I DO NOT support Kavanaugh. But neither do I support bringing up allegations from high school days for anyone.
Catherine Vincent
(34,490 posts)This was how long ago and he's been a lawyer/judge for how long?
They should focus on his lying under oath instead.