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TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:01 AM Sep 2018

FBI refuses to investigate secret letter allegations about Kavanaugh forwarded by Democratic Senator

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For days rumors of the existence of a secret letter about Judge Brett Kavanaugh have been floating about Washington, D.C., and on Thursday Democratic U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein confirmed the letter’s existence by announcing she was forwarding it to the FBI for investigation.

While its contents are unknown, reports at The Intercept and Buzzfeed make clear it was penned by an unnamed woman, and her attorney represents #MeToo survivors. The attorney has refused to comment, and the unnamed woman’s privacy is being respected.

But HuffPost is now reporting that the FBI has just refused to investigate what are assumed to be allegations, possibly of sexual impropriety, against Judge Kavanaugh, ahead of his Senate Supreme Court confirmation vote.

Why?

Upon receipt of the information on the night of September 12, we included it as part of Judge Kavanaugh’s background file, as per the standard process,” an FBI spokesperson told HuffPost. Huffpost adds, “there’s no plan for further investigation as part of the background check process, which likely would have happened if the FBI had received the information earlier on.

Amanda Terkel, HuffPost Washington Bureau Chief, explains via Twitter, “Basically… the information came in too late,” leading some to question how it could be too late for a lifetime appointment.



https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/fbi-refuses-investigate-secret-letter-allegations-kavanaugh-forwarded-democratic-senator/

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FBI refuses to investigate secret letter allegations about Kavanaugh forwarded by Democratic Senator (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 OP
Yep.....it's just the way things roll.....that statement is so wrong .....speechless. Nt Ninga Sep 2018 #1
I didn't know the FBI was bound by the same artificial calendar that Chuck Grassley & GOP made up! TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #2
Jeff Sessions' FBI is on the same calendar. Anon-C Sep 2018 #11
That onecaliberal Sep 2018 #30
he is a friend of jeff...... getagrip_already Sep 2018 #37
So then, release it all to the public Tarc Sep 2018 #3
So DiFi has to release it without divulging the ID of the woman. brush Sep 2018 #4
Trump has the letter, so her anonymity isn't a question anymore... OnDoutside Sep 2018 #6
Rachel says this info was given to the GOP and White House (I guess that includes Russia too). TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #7
My thoughts exactly blueinredohio Sep 2018 #36
Feinstein has had this information since JULY, so how come it only comes to light now ???? OnDoutside Sep 2018 #5
I thought she just received the info. jalan48 Sep 2018 #8
On top of that, others convinced her to forward it to the FBI, even though its author wanted privacy TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #13
Per CNN she has had it since July mythology Sep 2018 #16
Unreal. So this is our leadership? jalan48 Sep 2018 #18
What don't we know, though? About this one thing, I mean. Hortensis Sep 2018 #33
Sad isn't it? jalan48 Sep 2018 #45
Yes. Narcissism as a sort of ultimate Dunning-Kruger. Hortensis Sep 2018 #46
Since July? I don't get this at all. Why didn't she grill him during the hearing... brush Sep 2018 #10
California Representative Anna Eshoo got the letter in July, and OnDoutside Sep 2018 #22
Rachel said last night she thought the white house staff is so leaky she was expecting a leak mucifer Sep 2018 #9
Unverified details in this Guardian piece Shrek Sep 2018 #12
There had better be more to it than that FBaggins Sep 2018 #19
Lawrence O'Donnell said he saw the letter. He let it slip it was sexual abuse related later in show. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #20
How would he see the letter when john657 Sep 2018 #27
When he opened his show, talking to Rachel, that's when he said it. Perhaps ask him. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #31
I'll do that. john657 Sep 2018 #34
Honestly, under most times the FBI couldn't investigate Lee-Lee Sep 2018 #14
Not true. It's their job to do background check. The crime would be state level, but FBI does check. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #21
Then perhaps DiFi should have provided it during the investigation FBaggins Sep 2018 #25
That's what I said Lee-Lee Sep 2018 #29
Have to agree with the FBI on this one sarisataka Sep 2018 #15
Channeling the Anita Hill - Clarence Thomas issue. Baitball Blogger Sep 2018 #17
I wonder if this will hurt Feinstein's re-election bid. Garrett78 Sep 2018 #23
No it won't. We're not electing a fucking criminal repuke. onecaliberal Sep 2018 #32
Her opponent is a Democrat FBaggins Sep 2018 #35
Kevin de Leon is her opponent. Garrett78 Sep 2018 #39
Yes, he's a California state Senator. He's an unknown in most parts of the state. onecaliberal Sep 2018 #40
But he's not a criminal repuke. And our state Democratic Party endorsed him. Garrett78 Sep 2018 #43
No he's not a criminal. My apologies. onecaliberal Sep 2018 #44
I guess they don't care SCVDem Sep 2018 #24
From the info we have right now, it looks a poor effort by Senate Dems. On so many levels, I hope OnDoutside Sep 2018 #26
Have to agree with you at this point. N/T john657 Sep 2018 #28
This was a Hail Mary pass eissa Sep 2018 #42
McConnell's rush job is not advise and consent, it's a whitewash bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Pepsidog Sep 2018 #41
I get that the FBI wouldn't investigate this as a criminal matter BUT TomSlick Sep 2018 #47

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
3. So then, release it all to the public
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:18 AM
Sep 2018

We'll decide Kavanaugh's judicial fate, if the FBI is too cowardly to step up.

brush

(53,794 posts)
4. So DiFi has to release it without divulging the ID of the woman.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:18 AM
Sep 2018

She can't just let this go and this guy, this perjurer, gets on the court.

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
7. Rachel says this info was given to the GOP and White House (I guess that includes Russia too).
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:20 AM
Sep 2018

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The reddit and 4chan trolls will be out in force today.

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OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
5. Feinstein has had this information since JULY, so how come it only comes to light now ????
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:19 AM
Sep 2018

Scumborough had a right go at Democrats this morning, over this, (which was laughable).

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
13. On top of that, others convinced her to forward it to the FBI, even though its author wanted privacy
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:03 AM
Sep 2018

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Like with Anita Hill's information, people can't make claims that will be honored, unless there is due process.

It's like people who call CPS, thinking they are anonymous. They aren't, and when a case goes to trial, their names are revealed. CPS just says it's anonymous to get people to call their offices. But, like any charge or complaint, the names are taken for future use.

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mythology

(9,527 posts)
16. Per CNN she has had it since July
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:23 AM
Sep 2018
Multiple sources also said Feinstein received the letter in July, well before she met with the nominee and prior to Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings last week. It is not clear why the information was not relayed to the FBI until Wednesday night.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/13/politics/kavanaugh-feinstein-letter-fbi/index.html

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
46. Yes. Narcissism as a sort of ultimate Dunning-Kruger.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 07:11 PM
Sep 2018

Woodward's book is full of astonishing examples that he truly has no idea what it is to know something.

He has his favorite ideas and literally can't learn they're wrong from others because he can't understand that anyone would know something he doesn't. Facts that contradict what he wants to believe prove themselves wrong thereby. A closed system.

For instance, he knows that if we have a deficit we can just print more money and make it go away.
Proof positive those those pols who haven't managed to figure that out are really stupid. And of course of his very superior brain.

brush

(53,794 posts)
10. Since July? I don't get this at all. Why didn't she grill him during the hearing...
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:34 AM
Sep 2018

about this like Harris, Leahy and Booker grilled him?

Why sit on it and then after the hearing is over then divulge it?

Just shaking my head.

God! We have to use what we have to stop these crooked, cheating repugs from ramming their crappy nominees unto the court. Stop with the being cautious nice person who doesn't want to ruffle feathers.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
22. California Representative Anna Eshoo got the letter in July, and
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:55 AM
Sep 2018

gave it to DiFi as below (I saw one article say she gave it in July).

The information came from a letter forwarded to her from the office of Representative Anna Eshoo (D-CA); the letter’s author was allegedly the subject of Kavanaugh’s alleged sexual misconduct, according to one of NYT‘s anonymous sources. Feinstein received the letter from Eshoo’s office sometime this summer, but did not inform the Judiciary Committee about its contents until September 12. She did not share the letter itself. Several Democrats apparently urged her to take it to the FBI, while others wanted her to take it public, according to NYT.


https://hollywoodlife.com/2018/09/13/brett-kavanaugh-accused-sexual-misconduct-letter-supreme-court/

mucifer

(23,555 posts)
9. Rachel said last night she thought the white house staff is so leaky she was expecting a leak
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:33 AM
Sep 2018

by the end of her show.

Shrek

(3,981 posts)
12. Unverified details in this Guardian piece
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 08:59 AM
Sep 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/13/brett-kavanaugh-dianne-feinstein-confidential-letter

A source who said they were briefed on the contents of the letter said it described an incident involving Kavanaugh and a woman that took place when both were 17 years old and at a party. According to the source, Kavanaugh and a male friend had locked her in a room against her will, making her feel threatened, but she was able to get out of the room. The Guardian has not verified the apparent claims in the letter.

FBaggins

(26,749 posts)
19. There had better be more to it than that
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:41 AM
Sep 2018

Two teenage boys locked a girl in a room at a party but she was able to get out?

And 35 years later a senator decides that the FBI needs to know about it?

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
20. Lawrence O'Donnell said he saw the letter. He let it slip it was sexual abuse related later in show.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:48 AM
Sep 2018
 

john657

(1,058 posts)
27. How would he see the letter when
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:01 AM
Sep 2018

the rest of the Sen. Judiciary Committee hasn't?

That doesn't make any sense.

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
34. I'll do that.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:14 AM
Sep 2018

To me, it just doesn't make any sense that he would see it, but the rest of the Sen. Judiciary hasn't.

Hopefully he wasn't punked.

The Guardian is saying something different which doesn't involve any sexual assault.

Hopefully we'll learn more in the coming days.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
14. Honestly, under most times the FBI couldn't investigate
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:04 AM
Sep 2018

Because none of what I’ve seen presented is or was a Federal crime.

For the FBI to investigate they would have to have jurisdiction, that requires a violation of Federal law within the statute of limitations.

So the only time they could investigate is a very narrow window during the background check process for a nominee, which isn’t like a security clearance type check that is ongoing. Instead it’s a one-time check where they look and make a report to the White House and that’s it. Once it’s done it’s done, it’s like a one-time research project.

Allegations of sexual misconduct between high school students are the jurisdiction of state and local law enforcement. The FBI can’t conduct a criminal investigation into them even if they wanted. At the most had they found this earlier they would have interviewed the victim, put it in the report, and maybe made a referral to local LE if they felt there was a crime.

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
21. Not true. It's their job to do background check. The crime would be state level, but FBI does check.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:49 AM
Sep 2018

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They do comprehensive background checks on SCOTUS nominees.

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FBaggins

(26,749 posts)
25. Then perhaps DiFi should have provided it during the investigation
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:58 AM
Sep 2018

Or maybe... just maybe... she should have asked relevant questions at the hearing.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
29. That's what I said
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:08 AM
Sep 2018

The only time they could is during the course of that investigation, and that is a one time report and not an ongoing process. They do the report and it’s done, they don’t revisit it.

This was evindly known by some people for some time, but not handed to the FBI until after the report was finalized.

sarisataka

(18,679 posts)
15. Have to agree with the FBI on this one
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:11 AM
Sep 2018

From the information in this article and on CNN, the senator had this letter available since July and did not send it until now. I am sure she was very well aware of the timeline for the background check.

Also, according to CNN, the letter was forwarded with all names redacted except for Mr. Kavanaugh. There is not a whole lot they can investigate without any names of people to question.

FBaggins

(26,749 posts)
35. Her opponent is a Democrat
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:15 AM
Sep 2018

She's still in an open primary running against the current president pro tem of the state senate

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
43. But he's not a criminal repuke. And our state Democratic Party endorsed him.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:16 AM
Sep 2018

He'll probably get my vote.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
26. From the info we have right now, it looks a poor effort by Senate Dems. On so many levels, I hope
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:58 AM
Sep 2018

there's a lot more to this than an embarrassing wild goose chase.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
42. This was a Hail Mary pass
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:58 AM
Sep 2018

An incident in high school that the FBI has deemed not serious enough to even investigate.

Response to TheBlackAdder (Original post)

TomSlick

(11,102 posts)
47. I get that the FBI wouldn't investigate this as a criminal matter BUT
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 09:05 PM
Sep 2018

I would think the potential for blackmail would justify an investigation as part of a security investigation.

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