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Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:51 AM Sep 2018

Gee whiz, I wonder who it was Manafort conspired with against the United States?

To plead guilty of conspiracy you would have to ge guilty of conspiracy.

Gee whiz, I wonder who he conspired with?

Whoever was it that Paul Manafort conspired with.? Hmmm.

If we had any inkling who he conspired with. Just a notion perhaps.

He's pleading guilty this morning. In Federal Court. Of CONPIRACY against the United States.

Why, he conspired against the US. With someone, or something.

Who ever could it be?

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Gee whiz, I wonder who it was Manafort conspired with against the United States? (Original Post) Saboburns Sep 2018 OP
Well, let's see. He's a republican. Achilleaze Sep 2018 #1
As to these charges, I'm not sure they have much, if anything, to do with trump. Hoyt Sep 2018 #2
I disagree Saboburns Sep 2018 #4
So far, Mueller has not charged him with anything related to the campaign. It's all stuff years Hoyt Sep 2018 #7
You are correct. Saboburns Sep 2018 #8
I do think Manafort likely knows some damning stuff on trump, but is it related Hoyt Sep 2018 #9
He conspired with Mother to get Pence elected dalton99a Sep 2018 #3
Um, no. This is about Ukraine... brooklynite Sep 2018 #5
Yes. Saboburns Sep 2018 #6

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. Well, let's see. He's a republican.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 10:58 AM
Sep 2018

And he worked for the KGOP republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief. And that wanker was deep in debt to what a famous dead white republican* labeled the Evil Empire. Hmmmm? Do we need any more clues.

* ronald freaking reagan

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. As to these charges, I'm not sure they have much, if anything, to do with trump.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:00 AM
Sep 2018

I don't think Manafort is a key to taking trump down, other than more evidence -- as if we needed it -- that trump surrounds himself with crooks, racists, fools, traitors, and likely worse.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
4. I disagree
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:14 AM
Sep 2018

Bigly.

I think Manafort sang on it all.

I think he sang so sweetly that even his previous convictions may not cost him decades in Gaol.

I think he sang a big one, whopper, a show stopper.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. So far, Mueller has not charged him with anything related to the campaign. It's all stuff years
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:35 AM
Sep 2018

before the campaign, which doesn't implicate trump from what I can tell.

What specifically do you think he sang about, related to trump? Again, hiring crooks like Manafort should be damning enough, but that won't bring trump down.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
8. You are correct.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 12:00 PM
Sep 2018

What's in this Prosecutor's Information will not bring down Individual-1.

I am speculating of course.

But the fact is that nothing in today's Information was to be in his upcoming trial. Everything in this hearing is brand f*cking new.

I would submit that that is extremely unusual. To plead guilty of Conspiracy against the United States which he was only charged with today. And also pleading guilty to Obstruction of Justice , a new charge...well I find that very intriguing.

Again, I am speculating. I may indeed be wrong. My gut tells me there's more going on than what's in today's paper work.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. I do think Manafort likely knows some damning stuff on trump, but is it related
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 12:06 PM
Sep 2018

to the election? Not as sure about that.

Even the obstruction of justice charge is not related to trump. I believe the mere fact trump is associated with all these crooks and traitors is enough to remove him from office, but apparently GOPers don't agree.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
6. Yes.
Fri Sep 14, 2018, 11:21 AM
Sep 2018

I think we all knew this 18 months ago. This is indeed old news.

Why would he plead guilty to these new charges today? Having been convicted of numerous felonies 6 weeks ago. Before he is even sentenced for those.

I think it something bigger.

Msnagory was Trump campaign manager when the collusion was taking place.i

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