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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHeresy at Freeperville (re Manafort):
"He was in business with Roger Stone and he worked with Trump for nearly thirty years. He's been in business with unsavory tyrants all over the world. Many of them laundered money through New York City. There is a great deal of suspicion that up to 1600 apartment owned by Trump were used to launder Russian mafia money. Mueller most likely can get Manafort to give him Roger Stone. Stone is suspected of being the go between for Wikileaks/Putin(the GRU)/Team Trump for the hacked emails and information used to target certain voters. Remember, we're in a place where Trumpian propaganda and talk show hosts presenting sophistries no longer matter. Attacking others as Never Trumpers when you hear things you don't want to hear doesn't work in courts. Witches are going on the endangered species list. For Mueller, there are these felony convictions: 1) Mike Flynn 2) George Papadopoulos 3) Rick Gates 4) Michael Cohen 5) Paul Manafort.
Principled and thoughtful conservatives must ask themselves these questions. Why did we trust Trump? Why didn't we see that he had a sordid biography? Why did we decide that character did not matter? Why do we still pretend that everything is fine?
Trump's pick of Manafort was identified immediately as a dangerous act. None of this was unforeseeable. We need to see with our eyes and act like the truth still matters. Or allow Trump to ruin the conservative movement. The rule of law still matters. Trump's tweets won't save him."
12 posted on 9/14/2018, 1:38:02 PM by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
To: elhombrelibre
BS.
14 posted on 9/14/2018, 1:42:11 PM by Red Steel
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,013 posts)Stallion
(6,476 posts)there is no rational reason why a post like that should cause a person to be banned
tblue37
(65,428 posts)they responded:
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)And they bitch about freedom of speech on FB, Twitter and YouTube lololololol
John Fante
(3,479 posts)who tries to enter their reich-wing bubble, then cry about Alex Jones. Idiots.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Huge hypocrites like all GOPers.
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)Sounds like something pit of an authoritarian handbook: freedom of speech for me but none for thee.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)every word that member ever posted on FR is deleted. Let it not be said FR is a bastion of free speech.
Cartoonist
(7,319 posts)He won't last long
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,013 posts)salin
(48,955 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,013 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)...a moment of lucidity. At FR. Now gone.
Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Like positron and electron.
yardwork
(61,670 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)Will 'freepers' break under the coming deluge?
JHB
(37,161 posts)Boot the getaway car. They don't get to disown him and drive away. He's all theirs. Trump is the Party and the Party is Trump.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)To: vg0va3
Manafort knows nothing and he will say nothing.
He will be strong.
He could do 20 years standing on his head.
He will not flip, he will not fold, he will not talk.
2 posted on 9/14/2018, 1:25:22 PM by Blue House Sue
To: Blue House Sue
Do you realize that he flipped today?
5 posted on 9/14/2018, 1:29:16 PM by elhombrelibre (Cogito ergo sum a conservative pro-American.)
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)But I'm sure a hit of heroin will make it all better.
NBachers
(17,126 posts)Would it be different if she was the one facing the time?
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)must have zotted that heretical non Trump worshipper quick!
irisblue
(32,996 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The zot snuffed out all rational thought speech!
Rimjobs Trump worship center is secure
bucolic_frolic
(43,206 posts)Seems to me Manafort made headlines on periphery of the campaign as early as March 2016, described as a political consultant with ties to Russian states in eastern Europe or some such idea. Why did he need this guy? It was a red flag.
Mr.Bill
(24,305 posts)"Donald, I'm sending my man Manafort to be your campaign manager. Do whatever he says."
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Gotta be a Russian porn star.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)What an oxymoron!
Mr.Bill
(24,305 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)is more common than a con like that!
proglib217
(88 posts)What a (bad) fucking joke that was.
47of74
(18,470 posts)I guess with all the other Nazi / Kluxer hangouts getting knocked offline there's few other places they can gather to spew their racist horseshit.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,613 posts)Authoritarian Personality Syndrome
Social dominance orientation
Prejudice
Intergroup contact
Relative deprivation
"Although analyses and studies by psychologists and neuroscientists have provided many thought-provoking explanations for his enduring support, the accounts of different experts often vary greatly, sometimes overlapping and other times conflicting. However insightful these critiques may be, it is apparent that more research and examination is needed to hone in on the exact psychological and social factors underlying this peculiar human behavior."
*This is a good article and worth the read.
malaise
(269,087 posts)as expected.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)Because criminals always think they can get away with murder, they cannot foresee consequences, all they see is the goal line then they move forward.
They wanted their idiot who can handle a pen, that was their goal line, so everything around him, like his past, his associates, etc., etc. was dismissed, they collaborated in this charade, compromised themselves and now they are running scared, they are not thinking clearly and in the mean time they are enabling the idiot until they find a way to, sort of, clear themselves.
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)Sorry, sweetcheeks, that ship sailed a LONG time ago. Trump is the result of YOUR idiocy. But I see you're still not taking personal responsibility anymore.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Conspiracy Theory believing Trump acolytes.
Anyone attempting to post traditional conservative arguments Is quickly banned.
That site is not even worth checking out occasionally. Hell most of them are Q believers and even pointing out how crazy that is get people banned.
That is todays Republican Party.