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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 07:41 AM Sep 2018

Poverty and surviving a hurricane:

Last edited Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:24 AM - Edit history (1)






Alyeesha has the grit to make it through the storm, but after the winds pass and the bottled water gets loaded back up, she knows that people’s attention will just move on. Jim Cantore does not come for poverty.

Alyeesha’s little house may be flooded out, she may lose everything. There is no insurance company to call; her landlord may just tell her he can’t do nothing, just move along. Her friend who drives her to work may not be able to come to get her, she may lose her job. She will be left standing in the still waters of America, brown water on her brown legs, on land that was not her grandmothers and is not hers, with no place but my sofa to go.

But that’s the predictable slow drip of poverty. All your life you are just watching the water rise, knowing no one is coming to get you: after all they told you to get out.


From:
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10211943026195317&id=1362002705

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Poverty and surviving a hurricane: (Original Post) kpete Sep 2018 OP
That is some gorgeous prose about hard reality. femmedem Sep 2018 #1
KNR Thank you! Lucinda Sep 2018 #2
"....Jim Cantore does not come for poverty..." ewagner Sep 2018 #3
One of the hardest hit counties in the State. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #4
K & R mountain grammy Sep 2018 #5
I was attempting to respond to you with this post but coffee...? Autumn Sep 2018 #8
I tried to make that point on Friday in a post criticizing people who didn't evacuate. Pacifist Patriot Sep 2018 #6
yes - thank you for that thread - it was eye opening for me rurallib Sep 2018 #9
Yes PatSeg Sep 2018 #12
Yes of course.. mountain grammy Sep 2018 #15
If I were able to fill up my gas tank, PatSeg Sep 2018 #24
Exactly. It's a terrifying choice mountain grammy Sep 2018 #30
Oh yes PatSeg Sep 2018 #32
i totally agree with you, I've been there also, Canoe52 Sep 2018 #21
The idea of stocking up PatSeg Sep 2018 #25
Part of the problem catrose Sep 2018 #26
Its true PatSeg Sep 2018 #27
"The fancy resorts get restored at taxpayer expense but the working class communities never Autumn Sep 2018 #7
+1 dalton99a Sep 2018 #10
+1000 mountain grammy Sep 2018 #13
She posted this impressive article at medium.com bobbieinok Sep 2018 #11
This is required reading for the orange sh*t and his administration pazzyanne Sep 2018 #14
Giving this another kick. Can't get enough exposure. mountain grammy Sep 2018 #16
Moving. This is why 3000 poor people in Puerto Rico died, MineralMan Sep 2018 #17
damned Calvinists Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #34
Kick oasis Sep 2018 #18
K&R Andy823 Sep 2018 #19
Tremendously illuminating. Something we all need to read calimary Sep 2018 #20
Thank you for posting this MustLoveBeagles Sep 2018 #22
K&R Solly Mack Sep 2018 #23
KnR! Canoe52 Sep 2018 #28
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2018 #29
These are the words that match the photo that went viral of Robert Simmons & his kitty mnhtnbb Sep 2018 #31
K&R Eko Sep 2018 #33

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
3. "....Jim Cantore does not come for poverty..."
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:10 AM
Sep 2018

Wow!

Like a dagger through the heart...that's what truth feels like.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
4. One of the hardest hit counties in the State.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:30 AM
Sep 2018

Carteret County is right on the ocean and includes Morehead City.

We'll be reading countless stories in the coming months of the suffering and deaths caused by Florence......

To everyone in NC and SC today........

mountain grammy

(26,622 posts)
5. K & R
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:38 AM
Sep 2018

the grinding poverty that exists in America is being ignored..It's everywhere and the issue is being largely ignored by both parties.

I'm so ashamed how poor people are treated in America. That's why I support Democratic Socialism.

Thank you for posting this. On a Democratic board it should have hundreds of recs.. but we're talking about how great Cuomo is and how he "gets things done." Well, addressing poverty ain't "getting done," and addressing income inequality ain't "getting done."

Autumn

(45,094 posts)
8. I was attempting to respond to you with this post but coffee...?
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:02 AM
Sep 2018
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211139325#post7

"The fancy resorts get restored at taxpayer expense but the working class communities never

recover before the next flood comes." That was a response to that FB post and that is our whole problem in a nut shell right there.

The so called "progressive results” band-aid that the pragmatic people tout are never enough to take care of the bleeding jugular.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
6. I tried to make that point on Friday in a post criticizing people who didn't evacuate.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:43 AM
Sep 2018

I was not nearly that eloquent. Everyone should read this! Thank you so much for posting it.

PatSeg

(47,468 posts)
12. Yes
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:19 AM
Sep 2018

As with every hurricane, there has been a lot of criticism of people who don't evacuate, without thought to the limitations that many people live with. I can remember times in my life when I would be unable to evacuate - no money, no car or an unreliable car, nowhere to go, etc. I was truly living day to day and had very few options.

It is so easy to judge other people from afar, but we don't always know what other people are going through.

mountain grammy

(26,622 posts)
15. Yes of course..
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:26 AM
Sep 2018

people need the means to evacuate and a place to go.. Whenever there's a mandatory evacuation, these essential needs must be met by the governing body.

Busses and shelters, people.. No one should be left behind. But that's not how America rolls. Everyone for themselves.

PatSeg

(47,468 posts)
24. If I were able to fill up my gas tank,
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 02:36 PM
Sep 2018

I would still have to worry about being stranded somewhere on the side of the road with two children in the car and no money for food or lodging.

Canoe52

(2,948 posts)
21. i totally agree with you, I've been there also,
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 02:24 PM
Sep 2018

The poverty can be crushing and then have to deal with a disaster situation? Leave town? my car barely made it across town, Stock up? By the end of the week if I didn’t get paid on Friday, we didn’t have food for next week.

PatSeg

(47,468 posts)
25. The idea of stocking up
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 02:41 PM
Sep 2018

would be laughable. It was hard enough keeping the most basic necessities in the house. No bonus size packages of toilet paper or bottled water. Most purchases were minimal and often didn't last until payday. I rarely ever bought anything until it ran out.

catrose

(5,067 posts)
26. Part of the problem
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 03:05 PM
Sep 2018

Was that the media stories I saw focused on people who were "trusting God." At least one clearly had the money to leave; I don't know about the woman with 3 kids who said, "There's safety in numbers." Maybe she couldn't afford to leave and was whistling in the dark (or rain). In New Orleans, for the really bad hurricanes, it was customary for one person to stay behind to protect the house while the rest of the family left, if they could afford it. Katrina's striking at the end of the month meant that many couldn't afford to go.

Another injustice: The young woman's landlord can probably get more aid to repair his shack than she can for losing all her belongings.

PatSeg

(47,468 posts)
27. Its true
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 04:26 PM
Sep 2018

that the media often focuses on the more absurd cases, but we see these same players during every hurricane. Also many of these people have lived through many tropical storms and hurricanes, complete with the media hype. It is easy to judge them from inland.

Maybe it would be better if the media put more focus on the people who really have limitations when it comes to evacuating.

Good point about the woman's landlord benefiting more from federal aid than the tenant.

Autumn

(45,094 posts)
7. "The fancy resorts get restored at taxpayer expense but the working class communities never
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:00 AM
Sep 2018

recover before the next flood comes." That was a response to that FB post and that is our whole problem in a nut shell right there.

The so called "progressive results” band-aid that the pragmatic people tout are never enough to take care of the bleeding jugular.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
14. This is required reading for the orange sh*t and his administration
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:23 AM
Sep 2018

to educate them on what is involved in a hurricane and recovery. Of course, they might get some kind of weird kick out of the hardship of others. We will see what kind of emergency help and money will find it's way into the pockets of Florence hurricane victims. Maybe ICE can move some money back to FEMA!

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
17. Moving. This is why 3000 poor people in Puerto Rico died,
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:35 AM
Sep 2018

while relief efforts went on enthusiastically in other places damaged by hurricanes. Trump threw the people of Puerto Rico some paper towels and went back to DC and his weekend golf game.

We help the well-off in this country when disasters strike. The poor have to deal with things for themselves. That's why when fires occur in California, the news reporters are all verklempt about the "multi-million dollar homes" destroyed. We care what happens to the rich. The poor, not so much.

It's the Calvinist way, you see. If you're successful and rich, that's a sign that you are favored by God. If you're poor, obviously you're not one of the "elect."

This is not one of America's best traits.

Grasswire2

(13,570 posts)
34. damned Calvinists
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:29 PM
Sep 2018

They were responsible for the institutionalism of charity, in order to separate the "worthy" poor from the "unworthy."

MustLoveBeagles

(11,611 posts)
22. Thank you for posting this
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 02:25 PM
Sep 2018

Thank you for posting this but judging by another thread on here it's probably going to fall on deaf ears.

mnhtnbb

(31,390 posts)
31. These are the words that match the photo that went viral of Robert Simmons & his kitty
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:41 PM
Sep 2018

being rescued from flood waters in New Bern.

If you haven't seen the video, you hear him talking. And it becomes so apparent why many people are unable to evacuate. Limited finances. Family that won't go. A pet that needs care. How can I leave what little I do have (that I can't afford to replace)? A sense of we survived others, we'll survive this because after all it's going to hit 90 miles away from here.

Here's the video if you haven't seen it. You have to let it play for about 30 seconds before it gets to him.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article218455105.html

And a tweet from the photographer/reporter


Eko

(7,305 posts)
33. K&R
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:13 PM
Sep 2018

Ive seen people bashing poor people for not being able to leave, regardless of their politics poor is poor and no one should be bashed for it.

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