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RandySF

(58,868 posts)
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 02:43 PM Sep 2018

CNN: Kavanaugh's victim contacted the Washington Post before he was nominated.

CNN reporting that she contacted the Washington Post anonymous tip line before he was nominated to the Supreme Court in July. This is NOT some last-minute attempt to scuttle his appointment.

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CNN: Kavanaugh's victim contacted the Washington Post before he was nominated. (Original Post) RandySF Sep 2018 OP
Feinstein apparently had been given her letter in July. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2018 #1
This will not help her in November dflprincess Sep 2018 #21
It actually was a good strategy to release it at the 11th hour. Doesn't give be the repukes a still_one Sep 2018 #27
One of the victim's own lawyers said that Feinstein was respecting the victim's wishes. phleshdef Sep 2018 #45
So why did they sit on it?? triron Sep 2018 #2
Post removed Post removed Sep 2018 #4
After watching True Blue American Sep 2018 #5
If this is what "watching" produces, perhaps Hortensis Sep 2018 #14
Required? True Blue American Sep 2018 #16
She couldn't act on it and guarantee the woman's name would remain secret. Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #7
Thank you for that. True Blue American Sep 2018 #19
Post removed Post removed Sep 2018 #8
I'd guess the Wash Post would not give it any credence... Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #6
The WaPo started investigating. That's what Hortensis Sep 2018 #12
Do you know that? Or are you guessing that's what it did? Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #17
Yes, I do know that. We have a subscription. Hortensis Sep 2018 #20
Do you have a link to the WaPo article where they state they have investigated it? Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #22
Shoo. Take it elsewhere, I'm not playing. Hortensis Sep 2018 #23
As we learn the facts True Blue American Sep 2018 #47
And now the judge True Blue American Sep 2018 #54
Hence they were tipped off and had their binder full of 65 women malaise Sep 2018 #3
Exactly! True Blue American Sep 2018 #18
Binder full of women. Nailed it! suffragette Sep 2018 #26
I stole that from another DUer malaise Sep 2018 #28
I remember Romney with that. So apt now. Wonder suffragette Sep 2018 #30
I'm guessing since her story was leaked to them malaise Sep 2018 #31
Could be. I was thinking that they expected an incident or more to resurface from his past and suffragette Sep 2018 #49
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2018 #43
This is getting worse and worse every day, this Kavanaugh guy is such a sleaze, like Grassley. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #9
Happy Ten Thousand and First ! WheelWalker Sep 2018 #10
Thanks WheelWalker! TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #15
Morning Joe should be interesting tomorrow, considering what he had to say on Friday about the OnDoutside Sep 2018 #11
What did Joe say? I have grown tired of his tirades True Blue American Sep 2018 #25
Here you go.... "A cheap last minute trick by Democrats" OnDoutside Sep 2018 #32
A cheap last minute trick??? robbob Sep 2018 #41
That's Joe Scum for ya. He took a flyer that there was nothing behind this OnDoutside Sep 2018 #44
Thank you for that. True Blue American Sep 2018 #46
No problem. I was surprised more people didn't comment on it at the time. I wish I had your OnDoutside Sep 2018 #48
You provided a service True Blue American Sep 2018 #50
Happy to help ! 👍 OnDoutside Sep 2018 #52
I doubt there will be a vote True Blue American Sep 2018 #53
They're so close to their Holy Grail, and have debased themselves in the process, I have my doubts ! OnDoutside Sep 2018 #55
Durbin will be on joe True Blue American Sep 2018 #56
I must watch that too. I'm of the belief that if you don't give some back to bullies, they'll OnDoutside Sep 2018 #57
This backs up True Blue American Sep 2018 #58
Well I'll be watching since we can't go on our morning walk malaise Sep 2018 #33
Our first proper rain in months here too, Post Tropical Storm Helene ! OnDoutside Sep 2018 #34
Remnants of malaise Sep 2018 #35
Ah yes, when you think Isaac, Helene and Florence were forming at the same time, both our luck OnDoutside Sep 2018 #36
We need the rain but I suspect that by Tuesday somewhere will be under water malaise Sep 2018 #37
Stay safe...but of course it has nothing to do with Climate Change ... nope. OnDoutside Sep 2018 #38
Our oceans and seas are hot malaise Sep 2018 #39
100% true. We getting more and more once in a lifetime events. OnDoutside Sep 2018 #42
No flood wishes to you. True Blue American Sep 2018 #51
And of course the GOP blame the women-just like Anita Hill Tardislass Sep 2018 #13
We will be able to see True Blue American Sep 2018 #24
Whatever happens, Dems need to target their response for maximum midterm advantage with women voters Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #29
So the Pugs got tipped off moondust Sep 2018 #40

still_one

(92,201 posts)
27. It actually was a good strategy to release it at the 11th hour. Doesn't give be the repukes a
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:57 PM
Sep 2018

to mount a full campaign to disparage the victim, prevents a Thomas KANGAROO court, and creates doubt, maybe just enough to scuttle the nomination so it falls short of the votes

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
45. One of the victim's own lawyers said that Feinstein was respecting the victim's wishes.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 02:38 AM
Sep 2018

And Feinstein isn't the one that leaked the details of the story. I believe she has been very responsible and care with the way she has handled this.

Response to triron (Reply #2)

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
5. After watching
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 03:35 PM
Sep 2018

Feinstein giggle when Trump said he would include her ideas in a bill, i thought she was easily deceived. Trump lied to her.

She sure messed this one up.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. If this is what "watching" produces, perhaps
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 04:48 PM
Sep 2018

you should stick to reading the analysis of reputable and knowledgeable observers.

She was required to keep this confidential in the beginning, but she knew the story was also given to the WaPo, a major investigative journal that immediately got on the story, and that the chances the accuser could remain anonymous were almost nonexistent. Of course, it was very important that it not leak through her, which would have looked bad.

We have absolutely no way of knowing, of course, but aside from keeping carefully updated as this progressed, her biggest part may simply have been fighting to get the vote set back a week while it percolated, but our senators on the judicial committee were or course doing that for other critically important reasons anyway. And here we are.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
16. Required?
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:08 PM
Sep 2018

Who required her to keep it secret? She made sure Grassley knew.

The WP knew it too.

Seeing a persons reaction,along with checking facts works for me. Feinstein did not let her fellow Democrats know.

Now, Grassley is questioning the timing, when he knew this in July.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. She couldn't act on it and guarantee the woman's name would remain secret.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 03:40 PM
Sep 2018

She had promised not to reveal her name. She can ask a question to Kavanaugh about some allegation, but without being able to name the woman, it would have gone nowhere and just looked like the Dems were making stuff up.

She shouldn't have shown it to Grassley, though, if she wasn't able to act on it herself. That was a screwup. She was trying to be a "good girl" that Grassley approves of, rather than do her job, which in this case requires bold and not nice action.

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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
6. I'd guess the Wash Post would not give it any credence...
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 03:37 PM
Sep 2018

an anonymous tip about an opposed nomination. They may have received others that were similar. They deal in facts, though. If they can't interview her, get specifics, get her name, it's really not viable.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. The WaPo started investigating. That's what
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 04:34 PM
Sep 2018

the big ones do -- investigative journalism, as opposed to reading stories from other papers and rewriting with their own spin.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. Do you know that? Or are you guessing that's what it did?
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:09 PM
Sep 2018

I'd be surprised if it did, without speaking with the source, getting dates or facts, knowing her name to know if she's real and not a plant.

I would guess they get a lot of prank calls like that.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Yes, I do know that. We have a subscription.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:17 PM
Sep 2018

We also have been reading newspapers for decades and know a bit about how they work because they do explain it. Given a SCOTUS nomination, they would have assigned a whole team to investigate, working both from DC and out in California and wherever else the story went, similar to what they did when Roy Moore was first accused of sexually preying on teenage girls.

The lie detector test done by an ex- FBI agent at the attorney's request is not admissible in court but would in part have been produced FOR the WaPo investigators as they attempted to assess the validity of the accusation.

Frankly, your question strikes me as like asking if I really know if supermarkets sell candy bars. Yes, I do and they do. Why ask?

But, in any case, this is what investigative journalism is, Honeycombe8.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
22. Do you have a link to the WaPo article where they state they have investigated it?
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:31 PM
Sep 2018

Frankly, your answer strikes me as like stating, "Doesn't every grocery store tear open all the packages when it gets a call that there are roaches in them by someone who then hangs up and gives no identifying information or information about which packages, or why they think so?"

It would not surprise me to learn that the big newspapers are getting multiple calls every day about "some secret" in Kavanaugh's past, by unidentified sources, and scant details, if any. Of COURSE they would not, and could not, investigate them. Waste of time.

What investigative journalists do is do a thorough investigation of a S.Ct. nominee's past well before any hearing.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
47. As we learn the facts
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 02:59 AM
Sep 2018

It is clear this was not a last minute thing. This Judge seems to know how to go about presenting a complaint.

If Feinstein notified Grassley she should have informed her felow Democrats on the Committee,too, she let them take the brunt of insuts.

But, now the woman has come forward let us see how many Republicans show character.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
54. And now the judge
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:10 AM
Sep 2018

Has come forward. Has laid out her facts very well, we will now see what happens.

We may find out more about Kavenaugh,too. One thing is clear he has been a political operative since Clinton.

I did enjoy Kenneth Starr saying yesterday that Manefort agreeing was bad news.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
30. I remember Romney with that. So apt now. Wonder
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 06:23 PM
Sep 2018

when they assembled this. Must have taken some time to do.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
49. Could be. I was thinking that they expected an incident or more to resurface from his past and
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 03:43 AM
Sep 2018

had this prepared to use at just this time.

Come to think of of it, could be for both those reasons.

OnDoutside

(19,957 posts)
11. Morning Joe should be interesting tomorrow, considering what he had to say on Friday about the
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 04:33 PM
Sep 2018

allegation. Will Mika still nod her head ?

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
25. What did Joe say? I have grown tired of his tirades
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:49 PM
Sep 2018

And do not watch much. Did he dismiss the charge?

Thanks in advance.

robbob

(3,531 posts)
41. A cheap last minute trick???
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:32 PM
Sep 2018

That’s rich, considering this whole nomination is a cheap last minute trick on the part of the reThugs to ram a Supreme Court nominee in before the November elections.

OnDoutside

(19,957 posts)
44. That's Joe Scum for ya. He took a flyer that there was nothing behind this
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 02:33 AM
Sep 2018

with the knowledge he can then ignore what he said.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
46. Thank you for that.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 02:46 AM
Sep 2018

Seems many other posters missed it,too.

I go to the Y pool to exercise, but may be late or record it this morning. I will enjy seeing Joe and Mike eat crow.

Seems this woman is more qualified for the Court than Kavenaugh.

Now both Flake and Corker have doubts, let us see what Collins and Murkowski say!

OnDoutside

(19,957 posts)
48. No problem. I was surprised more people didn't comment on it at the time. I wish I had your
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 03:15 AM
Sep 2018

confidence re Flake and the other 3 !

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
50. You provided a service
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 04:10 AM
Sep 2018

To many of your fellow posters.

I do not have confidence in any of them, especially Flake and Collins. They always talk and then cave.

My feeling is Collins will not run in 2 years if she votes for Kavenaugh.

OnDoutside

(19,957 posts)
52. Happy to help ! 👍
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 04:27 AM
Sep 2018

I agree, Collins would be making a massive mistake by voting for Kavanaugh. It's not as if she didn't have cover as one of one two Pro Choice GOP Senators !

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
53. I doubt there will be a vote
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:04 AM
Sep 2018

Thursday since the judge has come forward. But with Mitch and Grassley,who knows?

Then there is pompus Oriin Hatch. How dare they besmirch a good man.

It will be fun to watch them retreat.

OnDoutside

(19,957 posts)
55. They're so close to their Holy Grail, and have debased themselves in the process, I have my doubts !
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:18 AM
Sep 2018

One thing though, IF this turns out to be the thing that kills the Kavanaugh nomination, DiFi will deserve all the plaudits for what would be a masterful piece of politicking. Last week, it looked to me like a Hail Mary pass that was way overthrown, but now, it might just deliver a knock out blow.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
56. Durbin will be on joe
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:59 AM
Sep 2018

This morning. I am going to stick around long enough to hear the opening, then record.

I love the fact Booker had the courage to challenge Cornyn and Grassley.

I know I am being petty, but at this point who isn’t?

OnDoutside

(19,957 posts)
57. I must watch that too. I'm of the belief that if you don't give some back to bullies, they'll
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:08 AM
Sep 2018

bury you into the ground. If Kavanaugh does down, it will be seismic in energizing the Dem supporters. I don't think you're being petty at all, Republicans went full steam evil and illegal. the howls of Scarborough about Difi "playing politics" (guffaw) this morning was sweet. They've dished it out for so long, they don't like it when it is done back to them (ENTIRELY legally).

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
58. This backs up
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:45 AM
Sep 2018

Booker and the Dems who backed him.

All this crap about late in the game is just an excuse. Grassley knew all about this,the reason they were trying to ram the vote through so quick.

Talked to a couple of women at the Y who said they were terrified of what is happening to our Country.

One thing is clear,the power mad among us have been exposed.

malaise

(269,019 posts)
33. Well I'll be watching since we can't go on our morning walk
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 06:31 PM
Sep 2018

It's already raining and should be raining here for the next three days.
One day drought, next day floods

OnDoutside

(19,957 posts)
36. Ah yes, when you think Isaac, Helene and Florence were forming at the same time, both our luck
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 06:41 PM
Sep 2018

was in. October last year, I got stuck in London due to Ophelia, most of the flights to Ireland were cancelled for 24 hours.

malaise

(269,019 posts)
37. We need the rain but I suspect that by Tuesday somewhere will be under water
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 06:44 PM
Sep 2018

It's life.
We even had a minor tremor earlier this afternoon

 

Tardislass

(86 posts)
13. And of course the GOP blame the women-just like Anita Hill
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 04:42 PM
Sep 2018

I know they will vote to nominate Kavanaugh but I hope every Democratic candidate will keep speaking out on how the GOP treats women. Trump is already unpopular with us with a 62% disapproval rating. I doubt this will help.

Grasswire2

(13,570 posts)
29. Whatever happens, Dems need to target their response for maximum midterm advantage with women voters
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 06:07 PM
Sep 2018

Be on the correct side of the Blue Wave and surf it.

moondust

(19,985 posts)
40. So the Pugs got tipped off
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 07:24 PM
Sep 2018

and went out and rounded up 65 signatures on a "character" letter just in case they'd need it to install their "get out of jail free" judge?

This whole SCOTUS mess stinks. Bad.

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