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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 04:23 PM Sep 2018

NY Magazine journalist in touch with a woman who was assaulted by a high-ranking gov. official--

she just sent him a text explaining why she will not come forward with her story:




Yashar Ali
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@yashar

About a year ago a woman came to me with a highly credible and deeply disturbing sexual assault accusation against a current senior government official. Over the past year, I have stayed in touch with her. She has been reluctant to come forward. Moments ago she sent me this text:
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NY Magazine journalist in touch with a woman who was assaulted by a high-ranking gov. official-- (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Sep 2018 OP
True, but it won't change unless women come forward. Vinca Sep 2018 #1
Yes!! Siwsan Sep 2018 #2
That is seldom the case. Ask Anita Hill. Squinch Sep 2018 #3
Anita Hill was over a quarter century ago.. whathehell Sep 2018 #4
We hope! True Blue American Sep 2018 #10
We'll see, won't we? My guess is that this woman takes a mountain Squinch Sep 2018 #11
Yes, we will. n/t whathehell Sep 2018 #12
And it begins... Squinch Sep 2018 #15
"Revenge porn" is against the law in many states.. whathehell Sep 2018 #17
Wonder how many death threats she got today. Squinch Sep 2018 #18
Those can be reported.. whathehell Sep 2018 #20
I'm not saying it was a bad idea. I am in awe of her. Squinch Sep 2018 #21
She certainly wasn't "obliged" whathehell Sep 2018 #23
They likely did not kill the SCVDem Sep 2018 #26
Not that much. Make no mistake, the rethugs want to turn the clock back to 1952 Texin Sep 2018 #24
Maybe the antidote for this problems if for women to take the into their own hands. Literally. Texin Sep 2018 #25
She may feel like it's not enough, but there's a lot of support janterry Sep 2018 #5
Oh, good for you. As you say, it's an obligation and a choice. Hortensis Sep 2018 #7
Precisely Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #6
change will only happen handmade34 Sep 2018 #8
Change will only happen when men stop doing this. Squinch Sep 2018 #13
hmmm... don't handmade34 Sep 2018 #22
I don't like the implication that men's behavior is the responsibility Squinch Sep 2018 #28
That's exactly where it seems to be. LanternWaste Sep 2018 #31
I don't think I'd be brave enough to come forward. ecstatic Sep 2018 #9
I wonder if good sex ed in school would help RussBLib Sep 2018 #14
Pence? alfredo Sep 2018 #16
In This America Powerful Men Grab Them By The Pussy DallasNE Sep 2018 #19
butbutbut he just TRIED to force her. so its all good. pansypoo53219 Sep 2018 #27
I just saw an admitted sexual assaulter and a man commonly known as the world's biggest liar, issue world wide wally Sep 2018 #29
We really are at a special moment in history.... LAS14 Sep 2018 #30

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
2. Yes!!
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 04:29 PM
Sep 2018

She will find far more who will support her than who will attack and attempt to smear her reputation.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
11. We'll see, won't we? My guess is that this woman takes a mountain
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 06:08 PM
Sep 2018

of shit for having come forward. My guess is her life is pretty much ruined for the next few years at least.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
20. Those can be reported..
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 06:22 PM
Sep 2018

but if you're trying to convince me that it wasn't a good idea to come forward, I doubt I could agree.....Female Gamers get death threats, for fuck's sake -- It's a mess, but she did a brave thing and came forward

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
21. I'm not saying it was a bad idea. I am in awe of her.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 06:27 PM
Sep 2018

But everyone in this thread is saying she was obliged to, and saying men won't stop assaulting women unless women out themselves through this gauntlet. That puts the onus on the victims and not the perpetrators.

I doubt I could go through what she is about to go through. I doubt I could possibly be strong enough.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
23. She certainly wasn't "obliged"
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 06:42 PM
Sep 2018

but maybe they were just trying to make the point that an accusation made anonymously has no teeth, especially in this sort of high stakes political arena.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
24. Not that much. Make no mistake, the rethugs want to turn the clock back to 1952
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 07:00 PM
Sep 2018

when white men ruled the roost and held all the jobs, including those even hillbillies today wouldn't stoop to do (but blame Mexicans for taking away from them). The little women mostly took their places at the side of their husbands, kept their pie holes shut and shot out one baby after another. Ahhh. The good old days! Women are for using and discarding in their minds. Any woman who voices an opposite opinion or dares to challenge their edicts is rotten goods. And, they want to send minorities back into subservient obeisance if not drive them out completely of the country. Kavanaugh and his brother-in-arms, Gorsuch, are just the rethugs' rubber stamp to all the legislation they plan to cram down the craws of every single American except their .01%-er friends.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
5. She may feel like it's not enough, but there's a lot of support
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 04:48 PM
Sep 2018

It's our obligation as women to come forward.

I was harassed in a job years ago. I didn't make a very good complaint (I did complain, just not through the 'right' channels).

If I had to do it over again, I'd do it the 'right' way. There's a great deal more support than there was back then.

And even if there isn't enough - it's my obligation as a woman to come forward to protect other women.

It's a choice.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Oh, good for you. As you say, it's an obligation and a choice.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 04:53 PM
Sep 2018

Facile excuses for gutless irresponsibility are overly plentiful.

I know the choice I'd make. I just don't know what steps to protect our privacy, home, etc., should be taken first. Hopefully, the WaPo would have some suggestions.

Squinch

(50,950 posts)
28. I don't like the implication that men's behavior is the responsibility
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 06:52 AM
Sep 2018

of women, especially when changing men's behavior requires women to be pilloried all over the news, have their lives ripped open, just because they had the bad fortune of being in a room with an assaulter when they were 15.

Lets figure out a way to put the onus on the perpetrators, not the victims.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
31. That's exactly where it seems to be.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 04:51 PM
Sep 2018

Many people are emphatically stating what they believe her obligations are.

Her only obligation is to get through her life on her terms.

Everything else is chickenshit wrapped up to make a few good political points.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
9. I don't think I'd be brave enough to come forward.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:37 PM
Sep 2018

I have nothing but praise and respect for those that do (real victims, not fakes like Leeann Tweeden).

RussBLib

(9,019 posts)
14. I wonder if good sex ed in school would help
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 06:14 PM
Sep 2018

Many girls, and boys, are confused and ignorant about their own bodies. I wonder if starting sex ed earlier would help women to say no? Might help boys to be more responsible too. Hence GOP, and Christian, opposition.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
19. In This America Powerful Men Grab Them By The Pussy
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 06:20 PM
Sep 2018

And get away with it. TRUMP AND Kavanaugh - two peas in a pod. And this woman drives that point home forcefully

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
29. I just saw an admitted sexual assaulter and a man commonly known as the world's biggest liar, issue
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 04:18 PM
Sep 2018

a character reference for another sexual assaulter.

I guess that should settle the matter.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
30. We really are at a special moment in history....
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 04:21 PM
Sep 2018

... when the momentum is behind uncovering the sense of entitlement men have felt at all walks of life, "Just grab her pussy." Finally speaking out is not necessarily going to result in being ignored. I hope the woman who spoke to NY Magazine will realize that and add her voice.

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