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kpete

(72,014 posts)
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:30 AM Sep 2018

HILLARY CLINTON: "I hoped that my fears for our future were overblown. They were not."

American Democracy Is in Crisis
Our democratic institutions and traditions are under siege. We need to do everything we can to fight back


The Atlantic

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON SEP 16, 2018


It’s been nearly two years since Donald Trump won enough Electoral College votes to become president of the United States. On the day after, in my concession speech, I said, “We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead.” I hoped that my fears for our future were overblown.

They were not.

In the roughly 21 months since he took the oath of office, Trump has sunk far below the already-low bar he set for himself in his ugly campaign. Exhibit A is the unspeakable cruelty that his administration has inflicted on undocumented families arriving at the border, including separating children, some as young as eight months, from their parents. According to The New York Times, the administration continues to detain 12,800 children right now, despite all the outcry and court orders. Then there’s the president’s monstrous neglect of Puerto Rico: After Hurricane Maria ravaged the island, his administration barely responded. Some 3,000 Americans died. Now Trump flatly denies those deaths were caused by the storm. And, of course, despite the recent indictments of several Russian military intelligence officers for hacking the Democratic National Committee in 2016, he continues to dismiss a serious attack on our country by a foreign power as a “hoax.”



Trump and his cronies do so many despicable things that it can be hard to keep track. I think that may be the point—to confound us, so it’s harder to keep our eye on the ball. The ball, of course, is protecting American democracy. As citizens, that’s our most important charge. And right now, our democracy is in crisis.

I don’t use the word crisis lightly. There are no tanks in the streets. The administration’s malevolence may be constrained on some fronts—for now—by its incompetence. But our democratic institutions and traditions are under siege. We need to do everything we can to fight back. There’s not a moment to lose.

As I see it, there are five main fronts of this assault on our democracy:

.........


The Rest:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/american-democracy-is-in-crisis/570394/
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HILLARY CLINTON: "I hoped that my fears for our future were overblown. They were not." (Original Post) kpete Sep 2018 OP
Thanks, Madame President. IluvPitties Sep 2018 #1
She sure is smart; I'm glad she's sounding the alarm donkeypoofed Sep 2018 #2
She sounded the alarm during the debates. ehrnst Sep 2018 #4
She also sounded the alarm radical noodle Sep 2018 #19
Alright..... I'm glad she sounded the alarm again donkeypoofed Sep 2018 #21
Yes, she sure is smart - and her natal astrology chart proves it! panfluteman Sep 2018 #33
K&R ehrnst Sep 2018 #3
Keep talking, Madam president. We need to hear your voice lunamagica Sep 2018 #5
She'll be on Rachel's show Tuesday, 9/18 NastyRiffraff Sep 2018 #43
Can't wait!!! Sparkly Sep 2018 #51
Brilliant article! FM123 Sep 2018 #6
Anyone who voted for the orange anus Racerdog1 Sep 2018 #7
FIVE MAIN FRONTS: First, there is Donald Trump's assault on the rule of law. Hortensis Sep 2018 #8
Second, the legitimacy of our elections is in doubt. Hortensis Sep 2018 #9
Third, the president is waging war on truth and reason. Hortensis Sep 2018 #10
Fourth, there's Trump's breathtaking corruption. Hortensis Sep 2018 #11
Draining the swamp apparently means something totally different to summer_in_TX Sep 2018 #53
"it entails restrictions on the freedom of the great majority in order to" Hortensis Sep 2018 #54
Fifth, Trump undermines the national unity that makes democracy possible. Hortensis Sep 2018 #12
thanks Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2018 #40
Great to see HRC getting back into the picture. nt oasis Sep 2018 #13
K&R. nt raccoon Sep 2018 #14
She remains superior in every way. I'm still with her in every way. Guilded Lilly Sep 2018 #15
I'm still with her too. She's MY President. calimary Sep 2018 #27
Thank you Madam President. LiberalBrooke Sep 2018 #16
K&R mcar Sep 2018 #17
Great article - should be read in its entirety dalton99a Sep 2018 #18
Agree and thank you for speaking out, Secretary Clinton. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #20
DAAAAAAAAMMN what we could have had... calimary Sep 2018 #22
She was right then and now. nt ecstatic Sep 2018 #23
This essay by HR Clinton is so excellent I am in tears. northoftheborder Sep 2018 #24
This is fantastic! Thanks so much for posting. PatrickforO Sep 2018 #25
kpete, thank you for posting this article from Hillary Rodham Clinton. pazzyanne Sep 2018 #26
Conservative S. E. Cupp was on Bill Mahr's "Real Time" on Friday night. maddiemom Sep 2018 #28
Spot on. mnhtnbb Sep 2018 #29
Excellent ismnotwasm Sep 2018 #30
She will be Rachel's guest bdamomma Sep 2018 #31
Bookmarked to read later today..... Upthevibe Sep 2018 #32
Bookmarked and recommended FakeNoose Sep 2018 #34
😭 BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2018 #35
And still we have idiots running around talking shit about her. MrsCoffee Sep 2018 #36
Hail to the Chief marieo1 Sep 2018 #37
A Brilliant and a Very Concise Analysis As Well! panfluteman Sep 2018 #38
Such a squandered opportunity. LisaM Sep 2018 #39
"I passionately believe it's time to abolish the Electoral College." Perseus Sep 2018 #41
Well worth the full read. suffragette Sep 2018 #42
I'm glad she refers to him as Trump and not "the President" DavidDvorkin Sep 2018 #44
I wish this were the days when there were only a few stations to watch LiberalLovinLug Sep 2018 #45
Another Exhibit A - His genocidal mania - millions lose their healthcare progree Sep 2018 #46
Kick Rec Bookmark Hekate Sep 2018 #47
Ya gotta ask, is she thinking about running again? LudwigPastorius Sep 2018 #48
Thank You, Hillary! Cha Sep 2018 #49
Still with Her. Still unafraid to say so. Sparkly Sep 2018 #50
Read this last night in "The Atlantic." When I finished, I said aloud, "Madam President." VOX Sep 2018 #52
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
4. She sounded the alarm during the debates.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:41 AM
Sep 2018

Ahead of everyone.

People slammed her for being "overprepared" because they are afraid of a woman that smart.

panfluteman

(2,066 posts)
33. Yes, she sure is smart - and her natal astrology chart proves it!
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 10:13 AM
Sep 2018

Hillary Clinton was born on the exact day when Mercury, the planet of the mind and intellect - was coming to a station between direct and retrograde motion - and in astrology, a planet at a station has the power and volume of its influence turned way up. Not only that, but her stationary Mercury was tightly conjunct her Ascendant, which is one of the three most important factors in a natal chart, after the Sun and Moon; the Ascendant indicates one's basic outlook on and approach to life. I remember looking at her chart and saying, WOW - that's one smart lady!!!

Hillary is also a super Scorpio, with her Mercury, Ascendant and Sun all in that sign. Her Scorpio Sun is behind her Ascendant and Mercury in zodiacal degree, and in the twelfth house of hidden enemies. That explains why she has been attacked so much in her political life. Also, Scorpio is a complex sign, and hard to understand - and very intense - which can be too much for many people to handle. She doesn't have the same easygoing charm that her hubby Bill has, and has had to be a fighter all the way.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
43. She'll be on Rachel's show Tuesday, 9/18
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 02:34 PM
Sep 2018

She's speaking out, loud and clear, just like she did when people should have listened, in the campaign.

FM123

(10,054 posts)
6. Brilliant article!
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:46 AM
Sep 2018

These words linger after reading her article:
"Democracy may be our birthright as Americans, but it’s not something we can ever take for granted. Every generation has to fight for it, has to push us closer to that more perfect union. That time has come again."

 

Racerdog1

(808 posts)
7. Anyone who voted for the orange anus
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:48 AM
Sep 2018

That could not see what a disaster this piece of shit was, deserves any and all credit for what is happening. Morons.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. FIVE MAIN FRONTS: First, there is Donald Trump's assault on the rule of law.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:53 AM
Sep 2018
John Adams wrote that the definition of a republic is “a government of laws, and not of men.” That ideal is enshrined in two powerful principles: No one, not even the most powerful leader, is above the law, and all citizens are due equal protection under the law. Those are big ideas, radical when America was formed and still vital today. The Founders knew that a leader who refuses to be subject to the law or who politicizes or obstructs its enforcement is a tyrant, plain and simple.

That sounds a lot like Donald Trump. He told The New York Times, “I have an absolute right to do what I want to with the Justice Department.” ...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Second, the legitimacy of our elections is in doubt.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:54 AM
Sep 2018
There’s Russia’s ongoing interference and Trump’s complete unwillingness to stop it or protect us. There’s voter suppression, as Republicans put onerous—and I believe illegal—requirements in place to stop people from voting. There’s gerrymandering, with partisans—these days, principally Republicans—drawing the lines for voting districts to ensure that their party nearly always wins. All of this carries us further away from the sacred principle of “one person, one vote.”

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Third, the president is waging war on truth and reason.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:55 AM
Sep 2018
Earlier this month, Trump made 125 false or misleading statements in 120 minutes, according to The Washington Post—a personal record for him (at least since becoming president). To date, according to the paper’s fact-checkers, Trump has made 5,000 false or misleading claims while in office and recently has averaged 32 a day. ...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Fourth, there's Trump's breathtaking corruption.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:55 AM
Sep 2018
Considering that this administration promised to “drain the swamp,” it’s amazing how blithely the president and his Cabinet have piled up conflicts of interest, abuses of power, and blatant violations of ethics rules. Trump is the first president in 40 years to refuse to release his tax returns. He has refused to put his assets in a blind trust or divest himself of his properties and businesses, as previous presidents did. This has created unprecedented conflicts of interest, as industry lobbyists, foreign governments, and Republican organizations do business with Trump’s companies or hold lucrative events at his hotels, golf courses, and other properties. They are putting money directly into his pocket. He’s profiting off the business of the presidency. ...

summer_in_TX

(2,752 posts)
53. Draining the swamp apparently means something totally different to
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 10:23 PM
Sep 2018

the radical right oligarchs. It's the swamp of regulations, apparently.


https://billmoyers.com/story/deep-history-radical-right/

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
54. "it entails restrictions on the freedom of the great majority in order to"
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 03:40 AM
Sep 2018

Yes. I didn't finish her book on this economist, sitting around somewhere, but her discussions of it are really worthwhile.

They (people like the Kochs) are libertarian — but with a twist: bluntly, it “entails restrictions on the freedom of the great majority in order to protect property rights and the prerogatives of the most well off.”


Understand that, and what Republican leadership is doing, including trying desperately to pack SCOTUS with authoritarian ass-kissers like Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, makes sense. They're not really crazy. They were elected, and/or allowed to remain, to implement a long-established plan.

This is what we've been seeing. It's why even as their wealth explodes due to fantastic innovations in production they've cut wages and benefits to the bone for half of all Americans. Because they can, and nothing restricts freedom like poverty.

They're enormously powerful risk takers, but stupid and mean. Obama started to put them down, just a start due to Republican control of congress, but had increased taxes on personal income to pre-Reagan levels. Hillary was going to continue, and they knew that.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Fifth, Trump undermines the national unity that makes democracy possible.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:57 AM
Sep 2018
Democracies are rowdy by nature. We debate freely and disagree forcefully. It’s part of what distinguishes us from authoritarian societies, where dissent is forbidden. But we’re held together by deep “bonds of affection,” as Abraham Lincoln said, and by the shared belief that out of our fractious melting pot comes a unified whole that’s stronger than the sum of our parts.

At least, that’s how it’s supposed to work. Trump doesn’t even try to pretend he’s a president for all Americans. It’s hard to ignore the racial subtext of virtually everything Trump says. Often, it’s not even subtext. When he says that Haitian and African immigrants are from “shithole countries,” that’s impossible to misunderstand. Same when he says that an American judge can’t be trusted because of his Mexican heritage. None of this is a mark of authenticity or a refreshing break from political correctness. Hate speech isn’t “telling it like it is.” It’s just hate. ...


And so much more. This article is a blockbuster statement from the person America voted to their our president.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,414 posts)
40. thanks
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 12:51 PM
Sep 2018

Thank you for posting those 5 points. Even folks who don't feel they have time to read the entire article can now, at least, see Hillary's "five main fronts of this assault on our democracy".

LiberalBrooke

(527 posts)
16. Thank you Madam President.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 08:18 AM
Sep 2018

Keep speaking out because we need you. How sad that our country does not have you in the White House now.

dalton99a

(81,570 posts)
18. Great article - should be read in its entirety
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 09:06 AM
Sep 2018
"First, we've got to mobilize massive turnout in the 2018 midterms."

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
20. Agree and thank you for speaking out, Secretary Clinton.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 09:24 AM
Sep 2018

If anything, her fears were probably under-blown, although I suspect she and president Clinton both knew this could happen because they knew tRump for years in New York and knew what a shit he's always been. Understandably, they had to follow tradition and play nice.....for a while.

What shocked me the most (and I suspect both of them as well) was the horrible cabinet and staff he appointed, with the obvious aim of deconstructing our government under the ruse of "draining the swamp". This entire crew is servant to both hard right-wing ideology and the world's plutocrats.

Until we can solve the problems of economic inequality and the wealthy's ability to outright purchase control of government, we're screwed and in a race to the bottom. And, they're literally screwing us with our own money from purchases of goods and services!

I'm looking forward to hearing more about Secretary Clinton's ideas on how to rid ourselves of these two elephants in our room.

Thanks for posting, kpete..........

calimary

(81,466 posts)
22. DAAAAAAAAMMN what we could have had...
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 09:30 AM
Sep 2018

And we DID have it. She WON, dammit! SHE got the most votes!!!!!

WHEN are we finally gonna get rid of the Electoral College???

northoftheborder

(7,574 posts)
24. This essay by HR Clinton is so excellent I am in tears.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 09:33 AM
Sep 2018

To think: we might have had her mind, her integrity, her compassion, her example instead of this unspeakable mass of corruption and malevolence.

PatrickforO

(14,587 posts)
25. This is fantastic! Thanks so much for posting.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 09:36 AM
Sep 2018

I'm forwarding to friends. Everybody in the country should see this.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
26. kpete, thank you for posting this article from Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 09:37 AM
Sep 2018

It succinctly spells out the dangerous waters we are trying to navigate at this time. Many of us agreed with Hillary when she sounded the alarm over 2 years ago. Unfortunately years and years of smear campaigns helped many people close their ears to this intelligent, cogent woman. Misogyny also played a big part, as there are many people out there that are prejudiced against powerful women, and women in general. That attitude needs to change, and women are now actively engaged to make misogyny a thing of the past. I just hope those changes happen fast enough to save our nation. I believe that women and the young will lead us back to sanity in this country.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
28. Conservative S. E. Cupp was on Bill Mahr's "Real Time" on Friday night.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 09:45 AM
Sep 2018

The gist of it: she was going on about what a disaster Hillary would have been as POTUS . Bill asked WHY she thought that, and she replied, "She's not trustworthy..." and then the panel discussion rambled on to another subject. Not ONE specific example: same old, same old... She wasn't pushed about it. Along with some of the old unfounded Repug accusations continuously repeated, that's always about all there ever is. It's still maddening.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
36. And still we have idiots running around talking shit about her.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 10:31 AM
Sep 2018

I have moved so far beyond fear that I am livid.

I will never forget. I will never forgive.

Sorry, that's just where I am right now.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
37. Hail to the Chief
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 10:33 AM
Sep 2018

This is brilliant as only Madame President could write it. Some people probably never have read, listened to her or followed her through the years. DJT and his supporters probably don't read at all and only listen to what Right wing (i.e. Fox news) nutcases tell them. And.......they believe the hate filled rhetoric that Fox news, DJT and others like him spew. Thank you, Madame President for all you have done for our country!!

panfluteman

(2,066 posts)
38. A Brilliant and a Very Concise Analysis As Well!
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 10:45 AM
Sep 2018

Hillary sure doesn't mince words - she goes right for the jugular! She has very neatly summed up what we need to do to fix our democracy in terms that every American can understand. It even seems like this op ed is in many ways a summary of the key points she made in her book "What Happened".

One thing in this article that I can really relate to, and which the tragic outcome of the 2016 election really revealed is the need to revamp and strengthen our education system, and above all, to bring a good civics curriculum back into our public schools. I have a history of teaching American government and citizenship in Amnesty classes back in the 80s, and one thing that the 2016 election really revealed is that too many American voters have totally forgotten the basic lessons of American Government 101, and desperately need to go back and take a refresher course. They didn't see the obvious red flags that should have gone up when Trump started attacking the free press, or threatening to jail his political opponents, or dropping ominous one-liners like "I alone can fix it". Democracy is all about cooperative government, about checks and balances, and NOT about giving all power to one person alone to do the "fixing", dummies! I also believe strongly that a course on logic, critical thinking and intro to philosophy needs to be taught at the high school level as well, to help voters spot false, specious or misleading statements and arguments put forth by political candidates.

Benjamin Franklin's response of "A Republic, if you can keep it", which has such a prescient ring to it nowadays, underscores the fact that EDUCATION should be the cornerstone of rebuilding our democracy and its immune system. In the final analysis, it may be virtually impossible to shield Americans from all the new, emerging cyberthreats out there, but what we CAN do is to teach them the basic principles of American democracy, and how to think well for themselves, so they don't fall under the spell of a demagogue like Trump so easily.

And regarding the Electoral College, that's a no brainer - sure, it should be tossed out for the outdated relic that it is. Madame President, you would indeed be president right now if it weren't for the Electoral College! Just getting rid of the Electoral College alone would probably stop most demagogues like Trump dead in their tracks - at least 95 percent of them. Restoring the Voting Rights Act, getting rid of Republican voter suppression and gerrymandering would also help - but in so many ways, these things were all natural outgrowths of an electoral environment that was created by the Electoral College in the first place. How ironic it is, Madame President, and how prophetic as well, that you once protested the Electoral College, and proposed getting rid of it on the floor of the US Senate - and then wound up becoming one of its most tragic and undeserving victims!

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
41. "I passionately believe it's time to abolish the Electoral College."
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 01:56 PM
Sep 2018

I was just talking with a friend about this...Why is it that no one is talking about this, that no one is taking the lead on abolishing the "Electoral College"?

The "Electoral College" makes it very easy for republicans to cheat, they have already done it twice, with Gore and Hillary. I do not believe that the man-child won the electoral college, it was a hack by the russians aided by republicans.

Why is it that Democrats are not waging a campaign to remove the electoral college from elections? The result should come from the people, not from a bunch of elected officials who do not, and did not, have the balls to see through the man-child and have a small vision of the chaos they would be sending the country to. The electoral college has no purpose on being, they had the chance to change their vote and rule the possibility of seating a conman in the White House, but they didn't, if they are to only respond to votes, which I believe were stolen, then they serve no purpose whatsoever. And besides that, it may have been useful 100 years ago, it is not useful anymore, only to those who will cheat to get in power.

DavidDvorkin

(19,485 posts)
44. I'm glad she refers to him as Trump and not "the President"
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 02:43 PM
Sep 2018

as the media insist on doing. It used to be the practice to say "the President" the first time in an article and then use the surname after that. With Trump, they say "the President" pretty much every time.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
45. I wish this were the days when there were only a few stations to watch
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:07 PM
Sep 2018

And when anything of this importance, by a prominent figure, you couldn't escape it, as it was covered on each channel.

Furthermore I wish it were a press conference speech she had given rather than an article in a magazine most will never see. A speech carried live by all (and only) three network stations.

So that every deplorable, every brain dead Trumpian, and also every apolitical non-voter, would have to watch at least a part of it.

But because of our tribalist society, Fox news viewers will never hear about it. If they do it will be in ridicule. chopped up, out of context, bits they can make fun of.

She really IS our rightful President. I wish she'd just throw off the traditions of decorum and hold rallies herself. Not to run for office, but to give these kinds of speeches. Look like the President she should have been. Remind the nation what a President is supposed to act like.

Because shying away since the election has only created a space that Trump and the GOP have filled and re-fillied with more crap. And given deplorables the assurance that her silence is proof of her criminality.

progree

(10,918 posts)
46. Another Exhibit A - His genocidal mania - millions lose their healthcare
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:44 PM
Sep 2018

All these horrible repeal-ACA replace-with-shit bills he supported. Fortunately none passed. But his many executive orders including getting rid of the mandate are estimated to reduce the number of insured by 16 million over 10 years. That's assuming the ACA manages to limp along in some form which I doubt.

LudwigPastorius

(9,170 posts)
48. Ya gotta ask, is she thinking about running again?
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 07:58 PM
Sep 2018

...because this kind of reads like a campaign broadside.

Sparkly

(24,149 posts)
50. Still with Her. Still unafraid to say so.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 10:07 PM
Sep 2018

So obvious how the backlash is trying to shut her up and sweep her under the rug, erase her, obliterate her from history, even (see: Texas).

VOX

(22,976 posts)
52. Read this last night in "The Atlantic." When I finished, I said aloud, "Madam President."
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 10:15 PM
Sep 2018

She hit every note in that piece, which is excerpted from her forthcoming book.

ANOTHER great Democratic president America will never have, thanks to criminal Republicans.

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