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American Democracy Is in CrisisOur democratic institutions and traditions are under siege. We need to do everything we can to fight back
The Atlantic
HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON SEP 16, 2018
Its been nearly two years since Donald Trump won enough Electoral College votes to become president of the United States. On the day after, in my concession speech, I said, We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead. I hoped that my fears for our future were overblown.
They were not.
In the roughly 21 months since he took the oath of office, Trump has sunk far below the already-low bar he set for himself in his ugly campaign. Exhibit A is the unspeakable cruelty that his administration has inflicted on undocumented families arriving at the border, including separating children, some as young as eight months, from their parents. According to The New York Times, the administration continues to detain 12,800 children right now, despite all the outcry and court orders. Then theres the presidents monstrous neglect of Puerto Rico: After Hurricane Maria ravaged the island, his administration barely responded. Some 3,000 Americans died. Now Trump flatly denies those deaths were caused by the storm. And, of course, despite the recent indictments of several Russian military intelligence officers for hacking the Democratic National Committee in 2016, he continues to dismiss a serious attack on our country by a foreign power as a hoax.
Trump and his cronies do so many despicable things that it can be hard to keep track. I think that may be the pointto confound us, so its harder to keep our eye on the ball. The ball, of course, is protecting American democracy. As citizens, thats our most important charge. And right now, our democracy is in crisis.
I dont use the word crisis lightly. There are no tanks in the streets. The administrations malevolence may be constrained on some frontsfor nowby its incompetence. But our democratic institutions and traditions are under siege. We need to do everything we can to fight back. Theres not a moment to lose.
As I see it, there are five main fronts of this assault on our democracy:
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The Rest:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/american-democracy-is-in-crisis/570394/
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)donkeypoofed
(2,187 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Ahead of everyone.
People slammed her for being "overprepared" because they are afraid of a woman that smart.
radical noodle
(8,013 posts)in several of the speeches she gave during the campaign.
donkeypoofed
(2,187 posts)panfluteman
(2,066 posts)Hillary Clinton was born on the exact day when Mercury, the planet of the mind and intellect - was coming to a station between direct and retrograde motion - and in astrology, a planet at a station has the power and volume of its influence turned way up. Not only that, but her stationary Mercury was tightly conjunct her Ascendant, which is one of the three most important factors in a natal chart, after the Sun and Moon; the Ascendant indicates one's basic outlook on and approach to life. I remember looking at her chart and saying, WOW - that's one smart lady!!!
Hillary is also a super Scorpio, with her Mercury, Ascendant and Sun all in that sign. Her Scorpio Sun is behind her Ascendant and Mercury in zodiacal degree, and in the twelfth house of hidden enemies. That explains why she has been attacked so much in her political life. Also, Scorpio is a complex sign, and hard to understand - and very intense - which can be too much for many people to handle. She doesn't have the same easygoing charm that her hubby Bill has, and has had to be a fighter all the way.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)She's speaking out, loud and clear, just like she did when people should have listened, in the campaign.
Sparkly
(24,149 posts)FM123
(10,054 posts)These words linger after reading her article:
"Democracy may be our birthright as Americans, but its not something we can ever take for granted. Every generation has to fight for it, has to push us closer to that more perfect union. That time has come again."
Racerdog1
(808 posts)That could not see what a disaster this piece of shit was, deserves any and all credit for what is happening. Morons.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)That sounds a lot like Donald Trump. He told The New York Times, I have an absolute right to do what I want to with the Justice Department. ...
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)summer_in_TX
(2,752 posts)the radical right oligarchs. It's the swamp of regulations, apparently.
https://billmoyers.com/story/deep-history-radical-right/
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Yes. I didn't finish her book on this economist, sitting around somewhere, but her discussions of it are really worthwhile.
Understand that, and what Republican leadership is doing, including trying desperately to pack SCOTUS with authoritarian ass-kissers like Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, makes sense. They're not really crazy. They were elected, and/or allowed to remain, to implement a long-established plan.
This is what we've been seeing. It's why even as their wealth explodes due to fantastic innovations in production they've cut wages and benefits to the bone for half of all Americans. Because they can, and nothing restricts freedom like poverty.
They're enormously powerful risk takers, but stupid and mean. Obama started to put them down, just a start due to Republican control of congress, but had increased taxes on personal income to pre-Reagan levels. Hillary was going to continue, and they knew that.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)At least, thats how its supposed to work. Trump doesnt even try to pretend hes a president for all Americans. Its hard to ignore the racial subtext of virtually everything Trump says. Often, its not even subtext. When he says that Haitian and African immigrants are from shithole countries, thats impossible to misunderstand. Same when he says that an American judge cant be trusted because of his Mexican heritage. None of this is a mark of authenticity or a refreshing break from political correctness. Hate speech isnt telling it like it is. Its just hate. ...
And so much more. This article is a blockbuster statement from the person America voted to their our president.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,414 posts)Thank you for posting those 5 points. Even folks who don't feel they have time to read the entire article can now, at least, see Hillary's "five main fronts of this assault on our democracy".
oasis
(49,407 posts)raccoon
(31,119 posts)Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)calimary
(81,466 posts)LiberalBrooke
(527 posts)Keep speaking out because we need you. How sad that our country does not have you in the White House now.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)If anything, her fears were probably under-blown, although I suspect she and president Clinton both knew this could happen because they knew tRump for years in New York and knew what a shit he's always been. Understandably, they had to follow tradition and play nice.....for a while.
What shocked me the most (and I suspect both of them as well) was the horrible cabinet and staff he appointed, with the obvious aim of deconstructing our government under the ruse of "draining the swamp". This entire crew is servant to both hard right-wing ideology and the world's plutocrats.
Until we can solve the problems of economic inequality and the wealthy's ability to outright purchase control of government, we're screwed and in a race to the bottom. And, they're literally screwing us with our own money from purchases of goods and services!
I'm looking forward to hearing more about Secretary Clinton's ideas on how to rid ourselves of these two elephants in our room.
Thanks for posting, kpete..........
calimary
(81,466 posts)And we DID have it. She WON, dammit! SHE got the most votes!!!!!
WHEN are we finally gonna get rid of the Electoral College???
ecstatic
(32,731 posts)northoftheborder
(7,574 posts)To think: we might have had her mind, her integrity, her compassion, her example instead of this unspeakable mass of corruption and malevolence.
PatrickforO
(14,587 posts)I'm forwarding to friends. Everybody in the country should see this.
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)It succinctly spells out the dangerous waters we are trying to navigate at this time. Many of us agreed with Hillary when she sounded the alarm over 2 years ago. Unfortunately years and years of smear campaigns helped many people close their ears to this intelligent, cogent woman. Misogyny also played a big part, as there are many people out there that are prejudiced against powerful women, and women in general. That attitude needs to change, and women are now actively engaged to make misogyny a thing of the past. I just hope those changes happen fast enough to save our nation. I believe that women and the young will lead us back to sanity in this country.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)The gist of it: she was going on about what a disaster Hillary would have been as POTUS . Bill asked WHY she thought that, and she replied, "She's not trustworthy..." and then the panel discussion rambled on to another subject. Not ONE specific example: same old, same old... She wasn't pushed about it. Along with some of the old unfounded Repug accusations continuously repeated, that's always about all there ever is. It's still maddening.
mnhtnbb
(31,402 posts)Take the time to read the entire essay.
ismnotwasm
(42,008 posts)bdamomma
(63,922 posts)tomorrow night.
Upthevibe
(8,071 posts)Thank you for posting...
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)I have moved so far beyond fear that I am livid.
I will never forget. I will never forgive.
Sorry, that's just where I am right now.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)This is brilliant as only Madame President could write it. Some people probably never have read, listened to her or followed her through the years. DJT and his supporters probably don't read at all and only listen to what Right wing (i.e. Fox news) nutcases tell them. And.......they believe the hate filled rhetoric that Fox news, DJT and others like him spew. Thank you, Madame President for all you have done for our country!!
panfluteman
(2,066 posts)Hillary sure doesn't mince words - she goes right for the jugular! She has very neatly summed up what we need to do to fix our democracy in terms that every American can understand. It even seems like this op ed is in many ways a summary of the key points she made in her book "What Happened".
One thing in this article that I can really relate to, and which the tragic outcome of the 2016 election really revealed is the need to revamp and strengthen our education system, and above all, to bring a good civics curriculum back into our public schools. I have a history of teaching American government and citizenship in Amnesty classes back in the 80s, and one thing that the 2016 election really revealed is that too many American voters have totally forgotten the basic lessons of American Government 101, and desperately need to go back and take a refresher course. They didn't see the obvious red flags that should have gone up when Trump started attacking the free press, or threatening to jail his political opponents, or dropping ominous one-liners like "I alone can fix it". Democracy is all about cooperative government, about checks and balances, and NOT about giving all power to one person alone to do the "fixing", dummies! I also believe strongly that a course on logic, critical thinking and intro to philosophy needs to be taught at the high school level as well, to help voters spot false, specious or misleading statements and arguments put forth by political candidates.
Benjamin Franklin's response of "A Republic, if you can keep it", which has such a prescient ring to it nowadays, underscores the fact that EDUCATION should be the cornerstone of rebuilding our democracy and its immune system. In the final analysis, it may be virtually impossible to shield Americans from all the new, emerging cyberthreats out there, but what we CAN do is to teach them the basic principles of American democracy, and how to think well for themselves, so they don't fall under the spell of a demagogue like Trump so easily.
And regarding the Electoral College, that's a no brainer - sure, it should be tossed out for the outdated relic that it is. Madame President, you would indeed be president right now if it weren't for the Electoral College! Just getting rid of the Electoral College alone would probably stop most demagogues like Trump dead in their tracks - at least 95 percent of them. Restoring the Voting Rights Act, getting rid of Republican voter suppression and gerrymandering would also help - but in so many ways, these things were all natural outgrowths of an electoral environment that was created by the Electoral College in the first place. How ironic it is, Madame President, and how prophetic as well, that you once protested the Electoral College, and proposed getting rid of it on the floor of the US Senate - and then wound up becoming one of its most tragic and undeserving victims!
LisaM
(27,830 posts)Sigh.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)I was just talking with a friend about this...Why is it that no one is talking about this, that no one is taking the lead on abolishing the "Electoral College"?
The "Electoral College" makes it very easy for republicans to cheat, they have already done it twice, with Gore and Hillary. I do not believe that the man-child won the electoral college, it was a hack by the russians aided by republicans.
Why is it that Democrats are not waging a campaign to remove the electoral college from elections? The result should come from the people, not from a bunch of elected officials who do not, and did not, have the balls to see through the man-child and have a small vision of the chaos they would be sending the country to. The electoral college has no purpose on being, they had the chance to change their vote and rule the possibility of seating a conman in the White House, but they didn't, if they are to only respond to votes, which I believe were stolen, then they serve no purpose whatsoever. And besides that, it may have been useful 100 years ago, it is not useful anymore, only to those who will cheat to get in power.
suffragette
(12,232 posts)K&R
DavidDvorkin
(19,485 posts)as the media insist on doing. It used to be the practice to say "the President" the first time in an article and then use the surname after that. With Trump, they say "the President" pretty much every time.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)And when anything of this importance, by a prominent figure, you couldn't escape it, as it was covered on each channel.
Furthermore I wish it were a press conference speech she had given rather than an article in a magazine most will never see. A speech carried live by all (and only) three network stations.
So that every deplorable, every brain dead Trumpian, and also every apolitical non-voter, would have to watch at least a part of it.
But because of our tribalist society, Fox news viewers will never hear about it. If they do it will be in ridicule. chopped up, out of context, bits they can make fun of.
She really IS our rightful President. I wish she'd just throw off the traditions of decorum and hold rallies herself. Not to run for office, but to give these kinds of speeches. Look like the President she should have been. Remind the nation what a President is supposed to act like.
Because shying away since the election has only created a space that Trump and the GOP have filled and re-fillied with more crap. And given deplorables the assurance that her silence is proof of her criminality.
progree
(10,918 posts)All these horrible repeal-ACA replace-with-shit bills he supported. Fortunately none passed. But his many executive orders including getting rid of the mandate are estimated to reduce the number of insured by 16 million over 10 years. That's assuming the ACA manages to limp along in some form which I doubt.
Hekate
(90,793 posts)LudwigPastorius
(9,170 posts)...because this kind of reads like a campaign broadside.
Cha
(297,655 posts)Sparkly
(24,149 posts)So obvious how the backlash is trying to shut her up and sweep her under the rug, erase her, obliterate her from history, even (see: Texas).
VOX
(22,976 posts)She hit every note in that piece, which is excerpted from her forthcoming book.
ANOTHER great Democratic president America will never have, thanks to criminal Republicans.