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Maddow re-running parts of Anita Hill testimony now-with Joe Biden..msnbc (Original Post) riversedge Sep 2018 OP
Annita Hill testify Clarence Thomas would talk of his penis size to Annita repeatedly riversedge Sep 2018 #1
I forgot how explicit it was. Clarence Thomas is less than a cockroach, a sick man. Bluepinky Sep 2018 #2
It didn't HAVE to be. They already had her testimony. Biden didn't have to make her repeat pnwmom Sep 2018 #11
He also MsLeopard Sep 2018 #14
Right. I haven't forgotten that either. n/t pnwmom Sep 2018 #15
I despised his behavior then and have never forgotten, but Hortensis Sep 2018 #18
It's painful to rewatch this DesertRat Sep 2018 #3
I listened during Rachel's original slot... chillfactor Sep 2018 #4
And this is why Biden, and his supporters should not push for him to run question everything Sep 2018 #5
For some of us it has never been below the surface. DURHAM D Sep 2018 #6
Meh BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #7
Anita Hill disagrees with you. Even his apology was a "sorry you felt" bettyellen Sep 2018 #9
"Kooky"? Yeah, men like to complain that women act "kooky." pnwmom Sep 2018 #13
Nice try, but you're going to have to do better BannonsLiver Sep 2018 #17
Based on the condescension of that comment, I can see why you're having trouble pnwmom Sep 2018 #19
And women who saw it in real time will be voting in large numbers. pnwmom Sep 2018 #12
Watching this as an adult for the first time...saw clips as a kid. ecstatic Sep 2018 #8
It set my teeth on edge. It was my first experience of Joe Biden and I've never pnwmom Sep 2018 #10
Still so hard to watch. I could barely sit through it. nt WhiskeyWulf Sep 2018 #16

Bluepinky

(2,275 posts)
2. I forgot how explicit it was. Clarence Thomas is less than a cockroach, a sick man.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 12:17 AM
Sep 2018

How sad that Anita Hill had to undergo this testimony over and over again by a bunch of clueless assholes.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
11. It didn't HAVE to be. They already had her testimony. Biden didn't have to make her repeat
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 02:22 AM
Sep 2018

it out loud, in front of the whole country.

Why he made that decision I'll never know, but it was sickening to watch him put her through that.

MsLeopard

(1,265 posts)
14. He also
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 02:56 AM
Sep 2018

Didn’t allow several other women who had similar experiences as Anita Hill to testify, only Prof. Hill. The good ol’ boys club was in full flourish then, as now. I hope he doesn’t run for President in 2020 as this stain on his record will come out with the full force of the right wing smear machine.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. I despised his behavior then and have never forgotten, but
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:42 AM
Sep 2018

some people do learn and advance. He has apologized to the women, if not to the nation for Thomas. I do wonder if he could still be a too-agreeable squish, but Obama, who worked closely with him for 8 years, thinks a great deal of him and would support him for president, which means a lot to me.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
3. It's painful to rewatch this
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 12:18 AM
Sep 2018

These men making her recount these disgusting comments and then seating Thomas on the court. A national disgrace.

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
4. I listened during Rachel's original slot...
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 12:19 AM
Sep 2018

the men on the committee made me sick to my stomach including Biden.

question everything

(47,486 posts)
5. And this is why Biden, and his supporters should not push for him to run
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 12:53 AM
Sep 2018

This whole sorry episode will be resurfaced.

BannonsLiver

(16,389 posts)
7. Meh
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 01:07 AM
Sep 2018

Joe asked her all the questions that did the most damage to Thomas. And some of us actually hold Thomas responsible for his own behavior rather than Joe Biden. I don’t care if he runs or not but this line of criticism is as kooky as it is stale.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
9. Anita Hill disagrees with you. Even his apology was a "sorry you felt"
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 02:02 AM
Sep 2018

That way kind... not good enough.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
13. "Kooky"? Yeah, men like to complain that women act "kooky."
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 02:26 AM
Sep 2018

This line of questioning didn't hurt Clarence. He got put on the court anyway.

And Biden decided to not call to testify two women who were ready and willing to back up Anita's story with their own experiences. Why? Because he had promised the Republicans that he would finish by a certain date, and they had reached it.

So the one thing that could really make a difference -- call corroborating witnesses -- Biden failed to do.

BannonsLiver

(16,389 posts)
17. Nice try, but you're going to have to do better
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 09:54 AM
Sep 2018

Try holding Thomas accountable for what he did, rather than shitting all over Joe Biden any time anita hill’s name comes up. Again, it’s just plain kooky.

On edit: he did get on the court, but by a lot closer margin than it would have been had Biden not called her to testify. I’m guessing you weren’t around back then and only know the story from what you’ve read becUse you seem to be missing a lot of context.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
19. Based on the condescension of that comment, I can see why you're having trouble
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:55 AM
Sep 2018

understanding why Biden's performance was such a disappointment to most women who watched it that day.

I'm not saying he shouldn't have called her to testify. It was the way he questioned her -- as if he were one of her prosecutors -- even though the GOP were all doing that. It was one big anti-Anita pile on.

It doesn't have to be that way. The Dems and GOP usually question from different angles. But in this hearing, you couldn't tell the difference in questioning between Biden and Spector. Not based on their questioning.

ecstatic

(32,707 posts)
8. Watching this as an adult for the first time...saw clips as a kid.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 01:12 AM
Sep 2018

This is horrifying! I can't imagine working in an office with such a perverted creep! What a nightmare! And now that I'm older, I see friends of mine in her. She reminds me of one of my best friends!

The male senators questioning her were so clueless and couldn't relate at all to what she was saying.

She was so brave to testify, and I'm so glad to see all the support she had from family!

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
10. It set my teeth on edge. It was my first experience of Joe Biden and I've never
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 02:20 AM
Sep 2018

been able to forget it.

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