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NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 02:03 AM Sep 2018

Yet Another Self-Inflicted Wound

When Republicans refused to disclose tens of thousands of documents pertaining to Kavanaugh’s past record, the obvious reaction of thinking people was a suspicion that there was something to hide – and given the volume of documents that were refused to be disclosed, it seemed to confirm that there was A LOT of something to hide.

In the doing, the Republicans raised a red flag the size of a small state, which in turn caused Democrats to go into the confirmation process with more than a small amount of scepticism, wondering exactly what was being withheld – and why.

Of course, Kavanaugh’s performance in Q and A sessions only served to cement the concept of things being hidden – such as his own views, opinions, and positions on legal questions. His answers were so vague, so wandering, and often so unrelated to the questions posed, he could have picked a man off the street – with no legal knowledge or experience whatsoever – to be questioned in his stead. And that man’s answers would probably have been more enlightening than Kavanaugh’s turned out to be.

Enter Professor Ford and her allegations – and the inevitable thought that dots are being connected. Was this the reason – or one of the reasons – why the GOP was so blatantly reluctant to have Kavanaugh’s past fully vetted? Was this the reason – or one of the reasons – why the Republicans are so intent to rush through the confirmation process with as little scrutiny of the nominee as possible?

Needless to say, there may be no connection whatsoever. But it’s the actions of the GOP that have invited speculation and suspicion.

And then there’s the biggest red flag in all of this: the letter signed by 65 women attesting to Kavanaugh’s good character when he was in high school – a letter that miraculously appeared within days of Professor Ford’s allegations being made public.

There are only two possibilities as to how that letter of exoneration could have been produced in such a short period of time. One, someone was able to track down 65 women who knew Kavanaugh in his high school years within days – or two, the list of potential signatories to such a letter was compiled long before Professor Ford’s accusations in anticipation of such an endorsement being required at some point in the future.

If you’ve ever tried to track down female schoolmates from decades ago, you know how difficult it is. Women marry and adopt their husband’s surname, making it impossible to locate them without intensive, time-consuming investigation. The idea that anyone could instantly locate 65 females who knew Kavanaugh over thirty years ago not only strains credulity – it literally laughs in the face of common sense.

And then there’s the closing argument from Kavanaugh. While Professor Ford has stated that she doesn’t remember when or where the party at which she was assaulted took place, Kavanaugh stated that he wasn’t at that party. How can you possibly know that you weren’t in attendance at an event that hasn’t even been specifically identified?

At this point, there isn’t a single aspect of Kavanaugh’s nomination that doesn’t stink, from Kennedy’s sudden retirement – in light of the fact that he would have had to recuse himself from any case before him involving Trump, due to his son’s connection with Trump via his position at Deutsche Bank – to Kavanaugh’s opinions on virtually limitless presidential powers, to his carefully-crafted non-answers to very pointed questions during his confirmation hearing. It’s a cloth woven of the same filthy threads – and they are all emanating the same stench as they’re unravelled.

It all comes down to one indisputable fact. Trump’s nomination of Kavanaugh was based solely on one thing: his position that the president is above the law. In choosing him as a SCOTUS candidate, all other considerations were irrelevant. And the fact that the Republicans are oh-so-anxious to have this particular nominee confirmed quickly is yet another example of how desperate they are to exonerate themselves for having elected a lying traitor to the Oval Office.

The Republicans have many skills – lying, cheating, and enriching themselves at the expense of taxpayers, just to name just a few. But they’ve now added a new talent to their repertoire: shooting themselves in the foot. Kavanaugh’s nomination – and the necessity to withhold relevant documents about his past record – is the proof thereof.

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Yet Another Self-Inflicted Wound (Original Post) NanceGreggs Sep 2018 OP
Republicans have a record of unqualified nominees to the Supreme Court DFW Sep 2018 #1
Yes, the pattern has been in place for decades. NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #2
Except for David Souter Frequency Kenneth Sep 2018 #6
Bush Senior was 1 for 2 DFW Sep 2018 #8
Agreed Frequency Kenneth Sep 2018 #9
You forgot Harriet Myers proglib217 Sep 2018 #14
I don't think she was ever a serious nominee. DFW Sep 2018 #16
And to think a brilliant legal mind like Thurgood Marshall thucythucy Sep 2018 #22
One of the bigger perversities ever foisted upon the AA community DFW Sep 2018 #28
I read on DU today that McConnell BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #3
Exactly. NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #5
Oh he knew something bdamomma Sep 2018 #25
I wish the Stop Kavanaugh rally was now and not on Sept 2. BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #31
Beautifully said Nance thbobby Sep 2018 #4
Literally laughs in the face.... LittleGirl Sep 2018 #7
It's akin to what Seinfeld referred to in his stand-up ... NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #10
snicker, indeed LittleGirl Sep 2018 #15
Has anyone confirmed that all of these women even exist? thucythucy Sep 2018 #23
I read this morning that only 2 still stand by him catrose Sep 2018 #27
K&R Scurrilous Sep 2018 #11
Good read always enjoy LostinRed Sep 2018 #12
Wonder how they are True Blue American Sep 2018 #13
Well done Nance. I hope this is widely shared Tom Rinaldo Sep 2018 #17
Great post malaise Sep 2018 #18
Apparently they were working on this for some time. June 2017 sheshe2 Sep 2018 #19
There is an overlooked element that establishes Dr Ford's credibility grantcart Sep 2018 #20
Excellent point! n/t NanceGreggs Sep 2018 #21
About the 65 women from high school, he went to an all-male school. Sparkly Sep 2018 #24
Damn, that was excellent, NanceGreggs. Kath2 Sep 2018 #26
human background props Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2018 #29
Bravo for this and many others BlueHusker Sep 2018 #30

DFW

(54,403 posts)
1. Republicans have a record of unqualified nominees to the Supreme Court
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 02:17 AM
Sep 2018

Nixon's G. Harrold Carswell, Reagan's Robert Bork. A complete hack, an extremist, and now a corrupt get-out-of-jail-free card disguised as a jurist (who may yet get in if the media is paid enough to dampen the furor).

They got away with it with Clarence Thomas and Neil Gorsuch, and Sam Alito isn't much better. Compare these questionable appointments to solid legal minds such as Steve Breyer, RBG, Sonya Sotomayor and Elena Kagan. The quality and integrity of nominees to the Supreme Court should not be in question, even before the hearings begin. Kavanaugh was recognized as an unqualified hack within hours of his name being revealed.

Is there a pattern emerging here? No. The pattern is not emerging. It has been in place for decades.

 
6. Except for David Souter
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 03:08 AM
Sep 2018

Republicans did NOT expect what they ended up with. Even more true for Ike with Earl Warren!

DFW

(54,403 posts)
8. Bush Senior was 1 for 2
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 03:32 AM
Sep 2018

Souter turned out to be fair and decent. Clarence Thomas was only nominated because he wanted to replace an AA (Thurgood Marshall) with another, and didn't much care about anything else. He had nominated Thomas to the D.C. Court of Appeals, so he didn't have to do a big search to find a black replacement for Marshall. Unfortunately his choice was a disastrous one for the country as a whole.

 

proglib217

(88 posts)
14. You forgot Harriet Myers
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 05:49 AM
Sep 2018

Nominated by shrub, arguably the most unqualified nominee for a seat on the Court EVER.

thucythucy

(8,069 posts)
22. And to think a brilliant legal mind like Thurgood Marshall
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:50 PM
Sep 2018

was succeeded by Clarence Thomas.

Ugh.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
3. I read on DU today that McConnell
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 02:42 AM
Sep 2018

told tRump to pick anyone else on the possible justice list except Kavanaugh. This could be due to what they already knew about his gambling problems and his past crimes related to women (there may be another victim too). McConnell says that getting Gorsuch was the highest point of his career as Senate leader. He is scum...he told Obama to select Garland when Obama asked who he would like (thinking this strategy would get a bipartisan justice). McConnell played him. As soon as he could he changed the rules and said no nominations to the court during the entire election year. McConnell knew Hillary would lose...why was he so confident!? Did he know something?

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
5. Exactly.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 03:06 AM
Sep 2018

What made the Republicans so confident that if they obstructed Obama's pick for SCOTUS, they would wind up with their own choice eventually being appointed?

Surely they knew that if HRC was elected, she might nominate someone for SCOTUS that they hated even more than Garland. So why put off the nomination of Garland when someone who would have been even more opposed to the GOP agenda might be nominated - unless it was a "given" that Hillary would never be in a position to nominate anyone?

Just another one of those things that make you go Hmmmm ...





bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
25. Oh he knew something
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:06 PM
Sep 2018

He knew all about the Russian hacking too before the election. He was awfully quiet during the Access Hollywood tape when it came out. I hate these fucking ole white men. Oops Ryan too, he's not old but needs to be included. We should be out in the streets ver this crap...…...sigh

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
31. I wish the Stop Kavanaugh rally was now and not on Sept 2.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 12:55 AM
Sep 2018

Having a Women's March this weekend would be helpful too.

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
4. Beautifully said Nance
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 02:51 AM
Sep 2018

I would like to say great minds think alike, but it is more likely that as I continue reading your posts, I continue to be educated. The gop is a criminal organization. I believe they protect trump because they are also complicit in election fraud and using foreign organized crime donations in their quest for power.

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
7. Literally laughs in the face....
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 03:14 AM
Sep 2018

The idea that anyone could instantly locate 65 females who knew Kavanaugh over thirty years ago not only strains credulity – it literally laughs in the face of common sense.

It was queued up and ready for the hit because of course!

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
10. It's akin to what Seinfeld referred to in his stand-up ...
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 03:48 AM
Sep 2018

… as the “eventual left”.

It was a reference to older Florida drivers’ penchant for activating their left-hand turn-signal at least fifteen minutes before they had to make that turn. Ergo, the eventual left – not immediately imminent, but prepared-for well ahead of time because it’s anticipated.

The question here is: Why was the GOP already queued-up to engage the “eventual left turn-signal” long before they allegedly knew that a turn was up ahead?

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
15. snicker, indeed
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:08 AM
Sep 2018

But they have had this letter since July so I would imagine that it came up in the committee meeting so the GOPers jumped at the chance to get those signatures in anticipation. I wonder if the media will bother to track any of these women down and interview them too. The GOP are thick as thieves, those bastards.

Always a fan Nance.

thucythucy

(8,069 posts)
23. Has anyone confirmed that all of these women even exist?
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:55 PM
Sep 2018

Hasn't there already been a report that at least one signatory of a letter of support now says he signed no such letter?

Add to the absurdity of it all that Kavanaugh went to an all boys school. So these women weren't even classmates. But they all knew him well enough to swear he'd never been a rapist.

Which brings up another sore point for me--the idea that you can tell a rapist by looking at him or "knowing" him. Orrin Hatch saying he knows Kavanaugh and so can't believe the allegation. Didn't Hatch say the same thing about Rob Porter?

And think of all the nice things people said about Hastert, before he was convicted of raping children.

If rapists were all so easily identifiable, it would be so much easier to avoid them.

catrose

(5,068 posts)
27. I read this morning that only 2 still stand by him
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:17 PM
Sep 2018

The others couldn't be found or wouldn't comment. Sorry, no link. It's been a hard day.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
17. Well done Nance. I hope this is widely shared
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 08:35 AM
Sep 2018

The coverup falls apart as soon as it is examined. I wondered also how he could claim not to have been present at a party that has not been specifically identified. Not possible. But even were he somehow to have gotten "inside information" (which to my knowledge has never been revealed) about what party was being referenced - the man/boy was a known heavy binge drinker, and he was described as being stinking drunk. That type of drinking induces black outs and total memory losses of everything that may have happened while drinking. His own "memory" is an "unreliable witness" at best.

I guess it just would have sounded too god damn guilty for him to use the obvious "I have no recollection" standard ploy as his defense.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
20. There is an overlooked element that establishes Dr Ford's credibility
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:09 PM
Sep 2018

She stated that there was a 3rd person in the room
No one who was making up a story would put a friend of the attacker in the room in a position to discredit her account.

How do Republicans respond to that?

Sparkly

(24,149 posts)
24. About the 65 women from high school, he went to an all-male school.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:58 PM
Sep 2018

To add another wrinkle.

Just sayin'.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
29. human background props
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:19 PM
Sep 2018

Thanks for another excellent read, NanceGreggs!

The props Kavanaugh used now seem to have been in anticipation of a #metoo moment. Has any other nominee had uniformed girls lined up in the background during a hearing?

BlueHusker

(4 posts)
30. Bravo for this and many others
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:21 PM
Sep 2018

Your posts are amazing. Always informative, thoughtful and on point. The wit and style ain't bad either! Thanks for sharing and even more thanks for being on our side.

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