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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLOL, GOP now see themselves victimized by their own "fake News" propaganda
America First Action, a political committee aligned with Mr. Trump, conducted a series of focus groups over the summer and concluded the party had a severe voter-turnout problem, brought on in part by contentment about the economy and a refusal by Republicans to believe that Democrats could actually win the midterm elections.
Conservative-leaning voters in the study routinely dismissed the possibility of a Democratic wave election, with some describing the prospect as fake news,.
Is this karma or what???
kentuck
(111,098 posts)when first we practice to deceive.
how vastly we improve our style
when we have practiced just a while.
SimpleC
(279 posts)Until the results come out.
It is a beautiful thought that soon all will be better and reason will prevail.
I will be an optimistic skeptic until that day arrives.
We've already seen too many things come out of this administration that straight out railroads common sense and decency.
Their entrenching their positions in preparations for an assault... they will not fall quietly.
Wounded Bear
(58,662 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,130 posts)bite those who claimed such (or witch hunt, etc.).
We already know that these people have their heads buried in the sand, as they have ignored rump's 4500+ lies/mistruths, and his ignorant attitude/low moral standards.
I for one, will make sure that my friends and I do vote (GOTV) in overwhelming numbers this coming Nov. 2018. Period.
My friends and I will NOT be distracted.
idcdu
(170 posts)eyeofnewt
(146 posts)I get physically sick at the thought of this fiasco going on for 6 more years. Ill wait to see election results to see if theyre complacent due to their belief in fake news. Its an avalanche of abject ignorance every day. Some days I take it better than others. The attacks on Kavanaughs accuser make this a not better day.
Brother Buzz
(36,440 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,175 posts)They just might stay home on Election Day
Lucky Luciano
(11,257 posts)safeinOhio
(32,688 posts)That would be fun.
Say it loud and often... Blue Wave is fake news, no way trump's guys can lose.
bucolic_frolic
(43,175 posts)Let the cannons roar
the campaign that strategically deploys the best disinformation wins. That's the lesson of 2016. Just adhere to keeping it legal. No reason to get drawn into the mess the Trump campaign is in.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Let's deploy an army of "Relax, the Red Wave is coming" bots.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)believe the Red Wave is coming they'll be so discouraged they won't bother to vote. Don't forget what happened in 1980.
And if you don't immediately remember: The networks all called the race for Reagan before the polls closed on the West Coast. Lots of discouraged Democrats simply left the lines they were standing in and didn't vote at all.
Augiedog
(2,548 posts)getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)They are masters of disinformation, so this report has 2 possible benefits to them.
It scares some of their base into voting, and it lulls some of ours into doing the whole protest vote thing (leaving the key ticket slots blank or voting third party).
Of those, the second is more insidious. If dems believe the whole blue wave thing it will cost us key votes. We could lose seats because of it.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)the enthusiasm is at a level I have not seen in decades, even when Obama was running
getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)I still hear garbage about purity testing candidates. Some on the radical edges are saying to sit out specific races because the candidate with a D next to their name isn't pure enough. It will send a message they say.
If people listen to this russian bot crap, get angry for whatever reason, and think the election is in the bag they will not vote correctly.
These are very blue people in my own family!!!!
That IS a strategy. Don't ignore it. Fight it!
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)all those calling for any purity test for any democrat should be ignored by the fact that having a big tent is what sets us apart from ideologues...like what the gOP has morphed into.
getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)we lost michigan by 10k votes; about 2 per precinct. Upwards of 80k voters, most of which voted a straight line party ticket, didn't vote for president.
Think about that.
80k D voters bought the hate that they didn't have to vote for the "lesser of 2 evils", even though there was only 1 evil on the ballot, and the most qualified candidate in recent history.
Many likely thought their votes wouldn't matter anyway. The election was in the bag.
It wasn't. A combination of disinformation, hate bots, bernie/stein actions, and voter suppression/fraud, combined to cost us the state.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Or them, for that matter. Those'll never change. They're just a burden we have to drag forward as we go.
But this trumpster delusion can change. It came from Trump and he can destroy it.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)...and VOTE!
lark
(23,105 posts)drumpf/PUtin is wht I fear about the mid-terms. That PUtin with agent orange's cooperation with refusing to harder our voting systems and voter rolls will delete or add a percentage of votes to ensure that all r's win in all important states. So if Dem is up 6% in TN, 7% of Dem votes get deleted. WE have no systematic or easy way to prove this and the R states will refuse to investigate, will just run the final machine totals again, but Russias' hacking would not show up at all this way. We have to come in over what's showing in polls to have any chance to stop this illegal takeover of our country.
#BLUEWAVE
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)and that does not help GOP or Trump if it does as the outrage would be huge. Any hack can be traced.....footprints are left behind on so many levels
lark
(23,105 posts)Intelligence knew Russia had penetrated the voting systems in multiple states and did not investigate. They started investigations at the state level but didn't do more than run the totals through the machines again. They never tried to account for all the undervotes, and they were massive, only occurring in Dem districts, and only for president. If they don't want to find evidence, they won't, and Russia will only hack states with R governors to protect their efforts.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)elections, not the Governors
Nitram
(22,806 posts)in the ass. couldn't happen to a nicer party.