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beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:31 AM Sep 2018

LOL, GOP now see themselves victimized by their own "fake News" propaganda

America First Action, a political committee aligned with Mr. Trump, conducted a series of focus groups over the summer and concluded the party had a severe voter-turnout problem, brought on in part by contentment about the economy and a refusal by Republicans to believe that Democrats could actually win the midterm elections.

Conservative-leaning voters in the study routinely dismissed the possibility of a Democratic wave election, with some describing the prospect as “fake news,”.



Is this karma or what???

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LOL, GOP now see themselves victimized by their own "fake News" propaganda (Original Post) beachbum bob Sep 2018 OP
Oh what a tangled web we weave... kentuck Sep 2018 #1
but NJCher Sep 2018 #14
I will not start a victory dance SimpleC Sep 2018 #2
I'm with you, simpleC...GOTV!!! Wounded Bear Sep 2018 #26
Not surprised at all that this whole 'fake' news and the like claims have come back to ... SWBTATTReg Sep 2018 #3
Lies are at 5k now. idcdu Sep 2018 #9
Blue wave eyeofnewt Sep 2018 #4
Hoisted by his own petard Brother Buzz Sep 2018 #5
When you encounter a known Trumper MAGAt this fall, reassure them, no way can Democrats win bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #6
Better than trying to reason with them! That's for sure!! nt Lucky Luciano Sep 2018 #11
Time to troll RW sites. safeinOhio Sep 2018 #18
Boom! bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #19
Anybody here know how to make bots? lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #24
There is at least an equal danger that if Democrats PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2018 #27
Shhhhhhhh. Don't tell them Augiedog Sep 2018 #7
could be a false flag - beware getagrip_already Sep 2018 #8
democratic voters are counting the days, hours and minutes to be able to vote... beachbum bob Sep 2018 #10
hope so, but yet.... getagrip_already Sep 2018 #13
if any democrat didn't learn the lesson of 2016, we deserve what comes our way. beachbum bob Sep 2018 #15
I agree, but look at michigan... getagrip_already Sep 2018 #21
Some learned NOTHING, but the rest of us don't deserve it. Hortensis Sep 2018 #23
Purity tests are perfectly fine in primaries. Then we have to put that aside... lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #25
Just hope Russia doesn't believe it eiher, but think they're smarter than that. lark Sep 2018 #12
I would not get caught up in conspiracy theories as ANY type of hack that happens CAN be proven beachbum bob Sep 2018 #16
NOt if the governor refuses to let the search be done. lark Sep 2018 #17
not all republican govenors are russian pawns, besides its the Secretary of States that control beachbum bob Sep 2018 #20
Great news! All the phony bravado and lies about Trump "achievements" has returned to bite them Nitram Sep 2018 #22
Well, this makes our efforts even more potent. WhiteTara Sep 2018 #28
 

SimpleC

(279 posts)
2. I will not start a victory dance
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:39 AM
Sep 2018

Until the results come out.

It is a beautiful thought that soon all will be better and reason will prevail.

I will be an optimistic skeptic until that day arrives.

We've already seen too many things come out of this administration that straight out railroads common sense and decency.

Their entrenching their positions in preparations for an assault... they will not fall quietly.

SWBTATTReg

(22,130 posts)
3. Not surprised at all that this whole 'fake' news and the like claims have come back to ...
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:48 AM
Sep 2018

bite those who claimed such (or witch hunt, etc.).

We already know that these people have their heads buried in the sand, as they have ignored rump's 4500+ lies/mistruths, and his ignorant attitude/low moral standards.

I for one, will make sure that my friends and I do vote (GOTV) in overwhelming numbers this coming Nov. 2018. Period.

My friends and I will NOT be distracted.

eyeofnewt

(146 posts)
4. Blue wave
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:55 AM
Sep 2018

I get physically sick at the thought of this fiasco going on for 6 more years. I’ll wait to see election results to see if they’re complacent due to their belief in fake news. It’s an avalanche of abject ignorance every day. Some days I take it better than others. The attacks on Kavanaugh’s accuser make this a “not better” day.

bucolic_frolic

(43,175 posts)
6. When you encounter a known Trumper MAGAt this fall, reassure them, no way can Democrats win
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 08:18 AM
Sep 2018

They just might stay home on Election Day

safeinOhio

(32,688 posts)
18. Time to troll RW sites.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:13 AM
Sep 2018

That would be fun.
Say it loud and often... Blue Wave is fake news, no way trump's guys can lose.

bucolic_frolic

(43,175 posts)
19. Boom!
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:15 AM
Sep 2018

Let the cannons roar

the campaign that strategically deploys the best disinformation wins. That's the lesson of 2016. Just adhere to keeping it legal. No reason to get drawn into the mess the Trump campaign is in.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
27. There is at least an equal danger that if Democrats
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:16 AM
Sep 2018

believe the Red Wave is coming they'll be so discouraged they won't bother to vote. Don't forget what happened in 1980.

And if you don't immediately remember: The networks all called the race for Reagan before the polls closed on the West Coast. Lots of discouraged Democrats simply left the lines they were standing in and didn't vote at all.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
8. could be a false flag - beware
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 09:03 AM
Sep 2018

They are masters of disinformation, so this report has 2 possible benefits to them.

It scares some of their base into voting, and it lulls some of ours into doing the whole protest vote thing (leaving the key ticket slots blank or voting third party).

Of those, the second is more insidious. If dems believe the whole blue wave thing it will cost us key votes. We could lose seats because of it.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
10. democratic voters are counting the days, hours and minutes to be able to vote...
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 09:53 AM
Sep 2018

the enthusiasm is at a level I have not seen in decades, even when Obama was running

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
13. hope so, but yet....
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 09:58 AM
Sep 2018

I still hear garbage about purity testing candidates. Some on the radical edges are saying to sit out specific races because the candidate with a D next to their name isn't pure enough. It will send a message they say.

If people listen to this russian bot crap, get angry for whatever reason, and think the election is in the bag they will not vote correctly.

These are very blue people in my own family!!!!

That IS a strategy. Don't ignore it. Fight it!

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
15. if any democrat didn't learn the lesson of 2016, we deserve what comes our way.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:03 AM
Sep 2018

all those calling for any purity test for any democrat should be ignored by the fact that having a big tent is what sets us apart from ideologues...like what the gOP has morphed into.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
21. I agree, but look at michigan...
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:45 AM
Sep 2018

we lost michigan by 10k votes; about 2 per precinct. Upwards of 80k voters, most of which voted a straight line party ticket, didn't vote for president.

Think about that.

80k D voters bought the hate that they didn't have to vote for the "lesser of 2 evils", even though there was only 1 evil on the ballot, and the most qualified candidate in recent history.

Many likely thought their votes wouldn't matter anyway. The election was in the bag.

It wasn't. A combination of disinformation, hate bots, bernie/stein actions, and voter suppression/fraud, combined to cost us the state.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. Some learned NOTHING, but the rest of us don't deserve it.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:54 AM
Sep 2018

Or them, for that matter. Those'll never change. They're just a burden we have to drag forward as we go.

But this trumpster delusion can change. It came from Trump and he can destroy it.

lark

(23,105 posts)
12. Just hope Russia doesn't believe it eiher, but think they're smarter than that.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 09:58 AM
Sep 2018

drumpf/PUtin is wht I fear about the mid-terms. That PUtin with agent orange's cooperation with refusing to harder our voting systems and voter rolls will delete or add a percentage of votes to ensure that all r's win in all important states. So if Dem is up 6% in TN, 7% of Dem votes get deleted. WE have no systematic or easy way to prove this and the R states will refuse to investigate, will just run the final machine totals again, but Russias' hacking would not show up at all this way. We have to come in over what's showing in polls to have any chance to stop this illegal takeover of our country.

#BLUEWAVE

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
16. I would not get caught up in conspiracy theories as ANY type of hack that happens CAN be proven
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:06 AM
Sep 2018

and that does not help GOP or Trump if it does as the outrage would be huge. Any hack can be traced.....footprints are left behind on so many levels

lark

(23,105 posts)
17. NOt if the governor refuses to let the search be done.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:13 AM
Sep 2018

Intelligence knew Russia had penetrated the voting systems in multiple states and did not investigate. They started investigations at the state level but didn't do more than run the totals through the machines again. They never tried to account for all the undervotes, and they were massive, only occurring in Dem districts, and only for president. If they don't want to find evidence, they won't, and Russia will only hack states with R governors to protect their efforts.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
20. not all republican govenors are russian pawns, besides its the Secretary of States that control
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:36 AM
Sep 2018

elections, not the Governors

Nitram

(22,806 posts)
22. Great news! All the phony bravado and lies about Trump "achievements" has returned to bite them
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:53 AM
Sep 2018

in the ass. couldn't happen to a nicer party.

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