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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf there is one thing I don't understand..
Why in hell have Dems. gone quiet for 2 fucking years over the fact that Trump consistently questioned Barack Obama's citizen status for almost 2 years before the election.. His decision to repeat these disgusting racist lies over and over again for the whole pre-election period... is still in my mind so disgusting.... the fact that the Dems. have not addressed this practically at all during Trump's presidency is almost as bad.... If I were head of the DNC.. I'd make a point to constantly remind the world of what he did... to an honorable/ great human being .. This issue still bothers me soooo fucking much!
HipChick
(25,485 posts)sucks...
jaxind
(1,074 posts)Yes... the one who accuses everyone else of Fake News, is the true purveyor of it! Obama's birthplace, Cruz's dad/JFK shooting, etc. Dems/media need to constantly remind people of this!
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)that they are not doing this on a daily basis.. Show the fucking tapes for Christ Sakes..
mcar
(42,333 posts)With all the crap going on, you're slamming Democrats right now?
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)With Obama's popularity and the fact that our party is now relying on him to attend as many Dem.Rallies before the mid-terms.. Lets remind the Repubs. of the moral degradation Trump is attached to regarding his horrible lies.
Your reply is really confusing..
mcar
(42,333 posts)You are slamming Dems. I don't understand why with everything going on right now.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)By offering them some rhetoric that I feel would be helpful.. Barack is the most important asset we currently have...I stand with my suggestion.. Big Time.
H2O Man
(73,541 posts)a powerful force. I am glad that he has been speaking out. I like his messaging -- we have to take care of business now. There are numerous important issues that our candidates are discussing, and running on in this year's election. That's the proper place for our focus.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I can't think of a single sensible, rational, or productive reason why anyone would think we should be calling out birtherism every day. Or, as you say, even remember that assinine lie when we are facing several huge national emergencies at once.
Unless, of course, the idea would be to distract from what we need to be doing. Or to keep the question itself in the front of everyone's mind.
But probably just a handy delivery vehicle for the usual whining and complaints about our party. Like someone stapling a ripped t-shirt because getting up from the easy chair for a safety pin's too much bother.
While the house is on fire.
mcar
(42,333 posts)is exactly right. Democrats are trying to put it out. They need support, not castigating.
Gothmog
(145,264 posts)Tom Perez wants President Obama on the campaign trail to draw a contrast to trump.
You do know that the DNC is focused on winning congressional and senate seats right now. Without regaining control of at least one house of Congress, we are doomed. I do not see what more the DNC should be doing other than encouraging President Obama to be on the campaign trail
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)You still haven't explained what they did that was wrong. You simply complain that they didn't make you happy.
George II
(67,782 posts)...two years or so ago.
Why bring it up now with everything else going on? There are lots of issues that they talk about.
ecstatic
(32,704 posts)and ram it in. Personally, the message I'd be ramming in is NEW ELECTION. Whether impossible or not. Just get the entire country feeling that way.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)How do you choose 1 message? I message? How about the fact that Trump is fucking Insane? Or the insanity of Repubs covering his back..
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)was disgusting and huge.. Its an excellent talking point for the mid-terms.
Gothmog
(145,264 posts)And yet polling shows that health care and other issues rank higher. Right now, the Democrats need to win as many seats as possible and birtherism is not on any list that I have seen in the real world.
Trump is a disgusting idiot. He is alienating Puerto Rican citizens that may help us keep the Florida Senate seat and pick up the governor seat. Trump is alienating women with Kavanaugh and trying to gut health care. All of these are far better issues.
The best approach here is to keep President Obama on the campaign trail so that voters can remember what it was like when we had a real POTUS
mcar
(42,333 posts)and local issues.
betsuni
(25,531 posts)Rs are pushing a possible sexual criminal into the SCOTUS. Perfect time to slam Democrats for something.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Lies concerning Barack is an attack on Dems?
Not an attack! I'm pushing a strategy!
sheshe2
(83,771 posts)He went through more than 8 years of their slurs and let them roll off his back. A better man by far. He and Dems ALL know he is not the issue or the concern. It is the candidates and the midterms. It is stopping trump in the voting booth. Obama made that statement loud and clear in one of his last speeches. And far to many people tossed their vote away.
He will always be MR President to me. He was my candidate from the beginning.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)strategy from the right..Not now... It's just not his manner... He's out there sticking to positive stuff.It's the Dem strategists who must do this..
Just remember the Black Vote was off substantially during the Trump Election.. Part of the reason.. No identification with Hillary.. The racism and bigotry of Trumpers must be part of the discussion.
The pro Nazi's infiltration into the Republican party as well. What better way than to remind them how Trump began his run for the Oval Office. By flinging racist remarks at our Barack
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Maybe you should take a nap...I guess this stuff is just boring.
George II
(67,782 posts)....about two years ago and are more concerned about stopping the confirmation of Kavanaugh, campaigning to elect Democrats in only six or seven weeks, taking over the House and possibly the Senate, and many many other things.
We've moved on to current issues, not issues that no longer exist.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)without a strategy. You just can't win without a strategy... "Current issues?" Trump's lunacy isn't an issue.? Trump's unrelenting Racist attacks are the backbone of his success.. Trump supporters all have 2 basic characteristics..... Racism, and Hate... We must never let up on these 2..
George II
(67,782 posts)...harking back to two years ago about something that no longer exists or is an issue.
Time to move on to the 2018 elections.
mcar
(42,333 posts)is another baseless slam.
betsuni
(25,531 posts)It's always something. Health care is the number one issue with voters. I find personal insults boring.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)betsuni
(25,531 posts)and denigration of Democrats.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)The time w his immigration policies. Thats much more current. We cant waste time on his weird crackpot shit unless it is current. The birther thing is sad history. The USSC is now. This Nov is too important to waste time on bullshit.
pansypoo53219
(20,977 posts)enablers.
still_one
(92,191 posts)called out the republican bullshit on this.
but of course I suspect this is just an opportunity to call out Democrats just before the midterms
Ironically, not that long ago there were some well known progressives who used to roam the halls of DU who were constantly out slaming President Obama and calling Hillary Clinton every foul name in the book.
In fact one went so far as to call President Obama a "POS, used car salesman, and told him to FO", and the number who joined in the chorus here at the time was disgusting.
That issue still bothers me SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
brooklynite
(94,572 posts)Add to which, Trump isn't on the ballot in November. Republican candidates are.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)They seem to love pitting Pro-Trump versus Anti-Trump Republicans on the air