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appalachiablue

(41,138 posts)
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:31 PM Sep 2018

NYT: Kav Accuser Forced Into Hiding Due To Death Threats; Dems. Demand Mark Judge Testify

(Daily Kos Post) Republicans wondering why they haven't heard from Brett Kavanaugh's accuser about the Monday hearing they scheduled without even contacting her might find some insight in this: She and her family have been forced out of her home due to the threats she's received. The New York Times writes of Prof. Christine Blasey Ford:

Dr. Blasey, thrust suddenly into a spotlight that she never sought, has been inundated with vulgar email and social media messages, and even death threats, according to a person close to her, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a private matter. “From what I’ve heard you have 6 months to live, you disgusting slime,” one message said.

Dr. Blasey, who has two teenagers, has moved out of her house, is arranging for private security for herself and her family, and is effectively in hiding, the person said. But Dr. Blasey has also been buoyed by a flood of supportive messages from friends and strangers. The article goes on to say, "Her worst fears are coming true.”

As Ford was being forced from her home, Republicans have been casting doubt on her account because she hasn't yet confirmed her appearance Monday for a hearing they scheduled without consulting her. "It kind of raises the question: Do they want to come to the public hearing or not?” said GOP Sen. Chuck Grassley, who chairs the Judiciary Committee...
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/18/1796782/-NYT-Kavanaugh-s-accuser-has-been-forced-into-hiding-due-to-death-threats(*CNN also mentioned this 10 mins. ago in a session with a pro- Kavanaugh guest attorney).
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(Daily Kos Post) BREAKING: Democrats Demand That Mark Judge Testify [UPDATES: Judge Refuses / Dems Insist,
Grassley is trying to get away with holding the Kavanaugh hearing on Monday without getting the testimony of the actual first hand witnesses. Now Democrats are demanding that Mark Judge testify under oath and under penalty of perjury.

NEW: Senate Judiciary Democrats on next week's planned public hearing on Kavanaugh allegation: "There are other relevant witnesses who should be questioned under oath, in a public setting. This includes Mark Judge." https://abcn.ws/2D9iBGJ, 9:04 AM - Sep 18, 2018./ Mark Judge must testify on Monday or the entire hearing is a sham.
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UPDATE 1: Mark Judge is refusing to testify: "In fact, I have no memory of this alleged incident," Judge said in his statement to the committee. "Brett Kavanaugh and I were friends in high school but I do not recall the party described in Dr. Ford's letter..."I have no information to offer the Committee and I do not wish to speak publicly regarding the incidents described in Dr. Ford's letter," Judge added.

Wonder why he is unwilling to go in front of the committee under oath and testify accordingly? Seems like he could help his old buddy Kavanaugh out a whole lot. Or maybe… Remember this is a person who stands accused of participating in attempted rape. And the Republican’s are like... “Well, he doesn’t want to testify. Nothing we can do about it.”
Subpoena this clown. Force him to swear to his denials under penalty of perjury...
MORE, https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9/18/1796678/-Breaking-Democrats-Demand-That-Mark-Judge-Testify-Under-Oath

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NYT: Kav Accuser Forced Into Hiding Due To Death Threats; Dems. Demand Mark Judge Testify (Original Post) appalachiablue Sep 2018 OP
This is disgraceful. madaboutharry Sep 2018 #1
As disgraceful as Grassley implying Ford's immediate embrace of his no notice demand she drop Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #6
In the last 1 1/2 hrs. of MSNBC, CNN it was all majority Republican appalachiablue Sep 2018 #15
This is why the FBI should investigate the matter GusBob Sep 2018 #2
Shitler would order the FBI to stop any investigation of the death threats. But you know what, the Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #7
With death threats, doesn't the fbi have to get involved? appalachiablue Sep 2018 #19
No. State or local jurisdiction almost always. But FBI can take over any local case...and do not Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #20
Thanks for explaining. appalachiablue Sep 2018 #24
Silence of the Lambs explains it all! My bet is the FBI is already on it and bypassed the locals... Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #26
I hope and think you're right, good deal. This isn't over yet by far. appalachiablue Sep 2018 #28
For sure, the professional and SAFE way to conduct this! appalachiablue Sep 2018 #16
Ugh... fucking death threats. A symptom of a very sick society. Initech Sep 2018 #3
Truly sick in many ways & it's escalating fast appalachiablue Sep 2018 #18
a Putin tactic bdamomma Sep 2018 #22
They are vile cretins malaise Sep 2018 #4
GOP is complicit.. HipChick Sep 2018 #5
Not the first time Jarqui Sep 2018 #8
Thanks I didn't know this, sorry for the woman. WOLVES... appalachiablue Sep 2018 #11
+1 dalton99a Sep 2018 #13
FEAR! Woodward got the title right, fear is Shitler's main tool. Evil. Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #21
Fresh horrors msdogi Sep 2018 #9
She would do great during testimony itself Awsi Dooger Sep 2018 #10
Thats it MFM008 Sep 2018 #12
exactly don't bdamomma Sep 2018 #23
Exactly! Hell hath no fury. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #27
Did we ever find out who threatened Stormy? Michael Cohen had assistants. Marcuse Sep 2018 #14
Trump And His Base Are Disgusting Beyond Belief colsohlibgal Sep 2018 #17
Trumpanzees gone wild Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2018 #25

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
1. This is disgraceful.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:35 PM
Sep 2018

Absolutely disgusting people. And the republicans in the Senate, including the despicable Orrin Hatch, are victimizing her all over again.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
6. As disgraceful as Grassley implying Ford's immediate embrace of his no notice demand she drop
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:44 PM
Sep 2018

everything and fly across the country BY Monday morning, at her personal cost in so many ways, and be grilled by 11 Angry Republicans was a "gotcha" moment?

Yes, it is.

appalachiablue

(41,138 posts)
15. In the last 1 1/2 hrs. of MSNBC, CNN it was all majority Republican
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 08:07 PM
Sep 2018

& allies stating Monday is the day for the hearing. Grassley & Co. 'have sent her several emails but haven't heard anything.'

Finally, a few minutes of coverage (CNN?) included lawyer Jeffrey Toobin emphasizing that Mark Judge can be subpoenaed to show; and Patty Murray earlier today saying that Dems. want an investigation.

Not until 20 mins ago, did CNN mention the *death threats. This is awful for Ford and her family, and little media coverage.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
7. Shitler would order the FBI to stop any investigation of the death threats. But you know what, the
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:46 PM
Sep 2018

professionals in the FBI are clearly on to who is on their side and of the rule of law they have sworn their careers to defend, and it is not Shitler's swampy side.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
20. No. State or local jurisdiction almost always. But FBI can take over any local case...and do not
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 09:17 PM
Sep 2018

have to explain why, except under seal to the courts, eventually.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
26. Silence of the Lambs explains it all! My bet is the FBI is already on it and bypassed the locals...
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 09:36 PM
Sep 2018

Last edited Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:32 PM - Edit history (1)

funny thing is now the FBI will be investigating the death threat allegations,,,and talking to Ford about whatever she wants. Am I right?

We will see.

malaise

(269,013 posts)
4. They are vile cretins
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:40 PM
Sep 2018

Don't hold your breath waiting for ReTHUGs to condemn this or call off their deplorables!

Jarqui

(10,125 posts)
8. Not the first time
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:48 PM
Sep 2018

Woman accusing Trump of raping her at 13 cancels her planned to go public
The woman known as Jane Doe pulled out of a Los Angeles press conference where she was expected to reveal her identity, citing death threats
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/02/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-13-year-old-cancels-public-event

Instead, her attorney, Lisa Bloom, cancelled the event in a brief, apologetic statement to a phalanx of cameras.

“Jane Doe has received numerous threats today as have all the Trump accusers that I have represented. She has decided she is too afraid to show her face. She has been here all day, ready to do it, but unfortunately she is in terrible fear. We’re going to have to reschedule. I apologize to all of you who came. I have nothing further.”


[sarcasm]
No reason to be concerned here. This just involves the President of the United States and a proposed justice for the Supreme Court, that's all!
[/sarcasm]

msdogi

(430 posts)
9. Fresh horrors
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:48 PM
Sep 2018

this is another in an endless stream of disgusting and terrifying actions of the repugs and their minions.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
10. She would do great during testimony itself
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:49 PM
Sep 2018

I have no doubt about that.

But it would completely change her life forever. Worse than Anita Hill, due to social media. If she stays away she can be a Harriet Miers type, a harmless footnote.

I hope she is strong enough. I would prefer to be Anita Hill today than an Anita Hill who has had to face nearly 30 years of regret that she didn't tell her story, while wondering what would have happened if she did.

Anita Hill will be viewed positively in history and so would Ford. This white right wing liar era won't be viewed kindly.

MFM008

(19,814 posts)
12. Thats it
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:56 PM
Sep 2018

Make us women angrier than we WERE.
The coming November slaughter will stupefy these assholes.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
27. Exactly! Hell hath no fury.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 09:40 PM
Sep 2018

They have no idea as to what they are stirring up. Big fucking mistake!

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
17. Trump And His Base Are Disgusting Beyond Belief
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 08:12 PM
Sep 2018

The parallels to Germany in the 30s is more than alarming. I couldn’t be more disgusted by it all.

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