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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:15 PM Sep 2018

Well, this seems kind of like a big deal.

Bloomberg News: The FBI did not tell Trump or anyone else at the White House that the bureau doesn’t want to be involved in an investigation of allegations against Kavanaugh, according to a person familiar with the matter.










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Well, this seems kind of like a big deal. (Original Post) kpete Sep 2018 OP
Another day another Republican lie eleny Sep 2018 #1
Of course. Facepalm. BootinUp Sep 2018 #2
anyone here surprised by this? NRaleighLiberal Sep 2018 #3
So Trump lied? HipChick Sep 2018 #4
Yeah I'm shocked (sarcasm). triron Sep 2018 #11
I wonder if Ford's lawyers already knew this and are requesting the FBI reopen their investigation eleny Sep 2018 #5
They can't FBaggins Sep 2018 #7
Republicans have slanted the FBI position as their folding their arms against reopening eleny Sep 2018 #8
You're correct FBaggins Sep 2018 #16
They're between a rock and a hard place - the American oligarchy and the citizenry eleny Sep 2018 #17
Did the bureau weigh in? nt babylonsister Sep 2018 #6
I'm shocked. CentralMass Sep 2018 #9
Hatch lied today when he said the FBI doesn't investigate BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #10
thank you for calling him bdamomma Sep 2018 #13
I was going to mention Anita Hill BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #19
They do not investigate rape or attempted rape. former9thward Sep 2018 #14
I forget the name of the lawyer that said it originally today BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #18
Exactly. Stonepounder Sep 2018 #20
They did the background check. former9thward Sep 2018 #22
Lies all the time. bdamomma Sep 2018 #12
K&R... spanone Sep 2018 #15
Senator Harris speaks up.... KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #21

eleny

(46,166 posts)
5. I wonder if Ford's lawyers already knew this and are requesting the FBI reopen their investigation
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:21 PM
Sep 2018

I see her attorney's as brilliant. If they had incite about the FBI or advanced knowledge of this Bloomberg release, then their request for a reopening of the FBI investigation of Kavanaugh is some darned good lawyering.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
7. They can't
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:29 PM
Sep 2018

They may not have said “we don’t want to” ( in fact, I can’t imagine that happening)... but they have no role to play here apart from what the WH asks them to do. There’s no process by which Ford or Democrats can request an investigation. They could informally ask the FBI to investigate a federal crime, but one hasn’t been alleged.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
8. Republicans have slanted the FBI position as their folding their arms against reopening
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:39 PM
Sep 2018

It's the feeling I've gotten from statements made by the administration and Repub members of Congress. This Bloomberg report makes it sound like the FBI has no qualms about reopening if asked. That's how I read it. They never put up a brick wall is all I'm saying.

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
16. You're correct
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:03 PM
Sep 2018

The FBI shouldn’t even have an opinion and it was nonsense if republicans pretended that the FBI didn’t want to investigate.


They neither want nor “not want” it. It’s whether their client (the WH) wants it, and its telling that they don’t want it investigated

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
10. Hatch lied today when he said the FBI doesn't investigate
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:42 PM
Sep 2018

this sort of crime...Yes they do dude! I just called his local office and told him to tell his other GOP pals to learn the law and to stop lying and to wake up and get with the times or no one will vote for the GOP again, especially women.

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
13. thank you for calling him
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:52 PM
Sep 2018

such disrespectful comments he said about Dr Ford. Despicable man, even with Anita Hill and this woman too. Makes me do this

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
19. I was going to mention Anita Hill
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 12:48 AM
Sep 2018

but I didn't know how long I had to talk. I called him specifically due to the hearings in 1991 and what he said then and now.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
14. They do not investigate rape or attempted rape.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:52 PM
Sep 2018

Unless it takes place on federal property. That is the law. What "law" are you talking about?

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
18. I forget the name of the lawyer that said it originally today
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 12:45 AM
Sep 2018

on MSNBC but since then I have heard a few others say the same. The FBI can investigate it if it is related to a federal crime and the normal background check of govt officials like judges. The legal pundits say this is part of a background check now.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
20. Exactly.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 01:17 AM
Sep 2018

From everything I have heard today, as part of any high-level nomination, the FBI does a background check. Not a criminal investigation, a background check. Just like they do for anyone applying for a security clearance.*

When they complete their background check, they provide their 'client' with a report.

If subsequent to their check, new information comes to light (or allegations), the 'client' can request that the FBI reopen the background check to investigate the info/allegation. Not as a criminal investigation, but are the allegations credible or not.

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*As a side note many years I went to work for a defence contractor in Los Angeles. My job required a security clearance. I know for a fact that FBI agents talked to former bosses and acquaintances in not only LA, but also Dallas, Tucson, and Columbus OH as part of their vetting of me. I was going to be the System Manager of a large computer installation and so would have access to everything on the computer. Users only had access to their own projects. The really funny thing is I was a computer geek not an engineer, so their projects were total gibberish to me, just as the workings of the computer system were a total mystery to the engineers. In spite of all that, the only classified info that I was privy to in the whole time I was there was the combination to the cypher lock on the computer room door.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
22. They did the background check.
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 06:03 PM
Sep 2018

This allegation would have been part of it if Sen. Feinstein had turned the letter over to the FBI in July. She didn't so they didn't. Why is up to her to answer.

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
12. Lies all the time.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 10:47 PM
Sep 2018

I want to see them all go down.

Kavanaugh needs to go down, and not be given this appointment, not for the Supreme Court.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
21. Senator Harris speaks up....
Wed Sep 19, 2018, 01:17 AM
Sep 2018

Quote from an email I received from her on Tuesday:

"I believe that the FBI… should be compelled to do its job in terms of completing their background investigation and that's not being done."
— Senator Kamala Harris

In other words, she is not asking the FBI to open a new criminal investigation, but instead to reopen the prior completed routine background check on Kavanaugh, in light of this new revelation.

See her interview on CBS explaining what Sen. Harris thinks should be done:

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