Grasp of the issues, intelligence and spirit is what one should consider when electing a leader, but no, does s/he has charisma? would I like to drink a beer with them?

And I think with Hillary, her intelligence, her brilliance was threatening to some. Sexism still runs rampart in this country

So does racism and misogyny. And that just sickens me.

But misogyny kept her out.

In my lifetime I've not seen anyone comparable to her.

But it needed to be 2008, during a favorable situational terrain, to offset the misogyny. I will always view those primaries as a major gaffe. We looked a few months ahead and not 16 years. Obama would have been unblemished and ideal toward a more difficult cycle in 2016. Of course, I am always thinking in terms of big picture and long term so it stood out to me, as opposed to the Iraq vote and other trivia. This site was not friendly to Hillary supporters during 2008. I left for many years. Others never returned.

She warned that our democracy is being subverted and could fall to an authoritarian government. She's talking about an existential threat to government of, by and for the people.

Authoritarianism does not mean current citizen-controlled things like whether we're going to have corporal punishment in schools. It means either dictator-type government or fascism, probably continuing to pretend to be a democracy but not, like Iran and Russia, both failed democracies. Their leaders decide who will be punished and how.

She chose to just focus on Trump on Maddow and the need to vote for a Democratic-controlled congress to act as a check on him. But the Republicans currently installed or kept in congress to further their donors' goals are every bit as big a threat, as is authoritarian control of the Supreme Court.

We are most Americans and we can stop this. But we must have control of congress.

They stole it. History will absolve me.