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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs this Judge guy really going to change his story under oath?
I see Ford is demanding that he be subpoenaed, but he's already written the Senate committee saying he never saw Kavanaugh do anything like she described. Are her advisers really expecting a Perry Mason moment where he cracks under questioning?
I mean, I fully expect he's lying, but he's locked into his lie now, and I don't see why he would change his story under oath, since she has no smoking gun outside her own testimony.
I'm not sure subpoeaning him is smart- if he sticks to his story as expected, the Kavanaugh supporters will be able to say "see, there's 2 guys saying you are wrong."
hlthe2b
(102,405 posts)LandOfHopeAndDreams
(872 posts)What if there were witnesses that saw him go into the room? And what about the other supposed witness who was in the room?
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)dsc
(52,169 posts)he admits to being a black out drunk at that time of his life. It also gets his story on the record so if she has something that proves he is lying he is stuck with the lie.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)... first denying what the victim experienced, and then when the priest admitted it and quit, blaming it (really) on liberals.
He's not going to be a good witness.
brewens
(13,626 posts)them panic and lie more before lowering the boom!
sheshe2
(83,940 posts)Demanding is pretty harsh. She is asking for a fair hearing and protection
due to death threats. She wants to have witnesses called and give testimony under oath. Wow! He wrote them a letter! He must be innocent then...a whole letter!!!! Hon, me thinks her advisors are smarter than the GOPEE Pees. I think they expect him to himself to commit perjury. Never underestimate a woman.
Good for you thinking it is not smart. They will both be committing perjury. Boys will be boys. Just rough housing. Like our president, just grabbing a little pussy after sucking on a tic tac or two. Moving on them like a b***h. When you are famous you can do anything.
KWR65
(1,098 posts)stopbush
(24,397 posts)Yes, I imagine that any letter he sends to the committee is considered to be under oath, but he lied during the hearings. He and the R Senators dont care that hes a perjurer. Still, getting him to raise his hand and aver things publicly under oath is a diffferent thing when it comes to sexual assault.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)I expect he'll say he doesn't recall anything about the incident and that will be credible because of his past alcholism.
He could be asked about the culture at GP during his time there, i.e., were there a lot of parties, drinking, drug use, etc outside of school. He could be asked about his friendship with Kavanaugh, i.e., were you acquaintences, friends, best friends who shared everything? I think Judge's usefulness as a witness would be mostly for context, not as corroborating witness.
The committee actually might have better luck with PJ Smythe, another boy Dr Ford identifies as party attendee, as a witness.
Vinca
(50,313 posts)Just read an interview on HuffPo about the prep school days during this time and there's little doubt the attack happened.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/georgetown-prep-student-party-culture-kavanaugh_us_5ba28cf7e4b07c23ef37a06c
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)presumably you want him uncovered, and THAT is why you want him investigated. Imagine this from the viewpoint of an innocent person:
Judge's reputation has been dreadfully smeared.
An innocent person should want a totally free to him FBI investigation and national declaration of the results via the confirmation hearing.
An innocent person should demand the right to declare the truth under oath so that he can never be accused of hiding it.
Instead, he's refusing both, preferring to sit on a permanently soiled reputation. Why? My best guesses include that he's afraid testifying under oath could send him to prison.
Plus, if guilty, there's a truly excellent change one or both blabbed to friends, who themselves are hiding what they know. An investigation would uncover them, and they would join Judge in prison if caught lying under oath.
Plus, who knows? Only that there is likely to be "plus" that even a cursory investigation into Kavanaugh's background might turn up. Could there be other behaviors that would cast further doubt on his character?
Kavanaugh of course is denying all need for investigations into any of the allegations against him, preferring to have his confirmation rammed through with all questions unresolved.