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RiverStone

(7,228 posts) Fri Sep 21, 2018, 06:43 PM Sep 2018

Given tRump is a serial liar at pathological levels, why not advocate for the 25th Amendment?

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Racist, narcissist, unindicted co-conspirator, cheated to win election with the help of Russians, and paying off women to hide his extramarital affairs from voting public.

And, for more evidence:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/08/01/president-trump-has-made-4229-false-or-misleading-claims-in-558-days/

Clearly, the debate needs to be why are Republicans enabling a corrupt and mentally unstable president to be a President!

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Given tRump is a serial liar at pathological levels, why not advocate for the 25th Amendment? (Original Post) RiverStone Sep 2018 OP

One argument is that he was always like that and we elected him. bettyellen Sep 2018 #1

it's even harder than impeachment unblock Sep 2018 #2

Appreciate the reality check, yet it's amazing he can live in his altered reality... RiverStone Sep 2018 #4

Because it is almost impossible to implement the 25th Amendment, empedocles Sep 2018 #3

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)

1. One argument is that he was always like that and we elected him.

Reply to RiverStone (Original post)

Fri Sep 21, 2018, 06:44 PM

Sep 2018

I think the wording says someone has degraded mentally and that is hard to argue.

unblock

(52,352 posts)

2. it's even harder than impeachment

Reply to RiverStone (Original post)

Fri Sep 21, 2018, 06:54 PM

Sep 2018

see related thread: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211162605

really, unless he's actually incapacitated by something like coma or stroke, the only way he's getting removed via the 25th section 4 is if there are enough votes for removal via *impeachment* but republicans decide it's less embarrassing to remove him via the 25th.

outside of that, we're not going to convince enough key republicans to remove him via the 25th if we can't convince a much smaller number to remove him via impeachment

RiverStone

(7,228 posts)

4. Appreciate the reality check, yet it's amazing he can live in his altered reality...

Reply to unblock (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:44 PM

Sep 2018

And get away with it!!

I wonder at what level of delusion it would take? When we hear insiders in DC are trying to protect the world from tRump doing something stupid, like start a war, it's hard to fathom.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)

3. Because it is almost impossible to implement the 25th Amendment,

Reply to RiverStone (Original post)

Fri Sep 21, 2018, 07:00 PM

Sep 2018

absent very strong support from republicons as well as Dems. Huge majorities required. It was designed to work for very obvious physical incapacitation.

[Note also that the legal standard for insanity is also an extremely high bar to cross over]

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