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RockRaven

(14,991 posts)
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 12:47 AM Sep 2018

I think people get the causality arrow wrong with Trump a lot of the time...

With all due respect to Rick Wilson, "Everything Trump Touches Dies" is at best a very misleading assessment even if it is a catchy book title and a decent hash-tag in acronym form.

Same with "Trump's feces-Midas touch," with "everyone who gets into bed with Trump regrets it," same with "Trump ruins everything," etc., etc. All of these are framed similarly: first an encounter with Trump, then badness.


This totally ignores Trump's ability both to seek out AND to gather in the already-disgusting. Look at his business record. Look at his personal life. Look at his campaign. He did NOT turn all of these people into what they are by interacting with them. He interacted with them BECAUSE of what they were ALREADY. He worsens them, yes, but they are already terrible.

Donald Trump is a magnet, or a self-propelled compass, for the fetid, the fecal, the rotten, the suppurative, the pestilent, the wretched, the noxious, the nauseating.

Trump doesn't merely turn neutral and good things into bad things, though he does some of that; Trump and bad things have a mutual attraction with reinforcing tendencies.

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I think people get the causality arrow wrong with Trump a lot of the time... (Original Post) RockRaven Sep 2018 OP
This is basically true. He attracts flawed people, takes advantage of their flaws, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #1
Trump was never a mystery CloudWatcher Sep 2018 #2
Trump does no vetting...zip zero HipChick Sep 2018 #3
Actually I think he does. For him, "vetting" means verifying their corruptness. nt hvn_nbr_2 Sep 2018 #4

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,831 posts)
1. This is basically true. He attracts flawed people, takes advantage of their flaws,
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 12:48 AM
Sep 2018

and discards them when they're of no more use to him.

CloudWatcher

(1,851 posts)
2. Trump was never a mystery
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 12:56 AM
Sep 2018

Given his disgusting public persona (if only from the birther nonsense), he couldn't help but attract either the terminally stupid (Trump voters, Sessions) or the intentionally obsequious and Machiavellian (the rest of his administration). The people he's attracted have been dead inside for a long time.

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