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That NYT Report was fake news to facilitate this moment (Original Post) malaise Sep 2018 OP
That was a very weak NYTimes report. NightWatcher Sep 2018 #1
I concur. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #2
Nice diversion for Kavanaugh malaise Sep 2018 #4
Didn't I see somewhere that Rosenstein and Kavanaugh are besties? Nevilledog Sep 2018 #19
and it doesn't even make sense. no lawyer seriously talks about the 25th amendment unblock Sep 2018 #7
Yes. Everyone should cancel any subscription. manor321 Sep 2018 #3
Anyone Can Read the NYT Free Online by Browsing Incognito dlk Sep 2018 #9
Which nobody should do as it is theft. mythology Sep 2018 #21
No. If any one reporting is bad we can say so...throw the baby out with the bath water if you like. Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #25
Yes, I tend to take your view. Trump wants the NYT to fail so badly. LisaM Sep 2018 #33
Agree 100%. MelissaB Sep 2018 #5
New York Times - All The News Fit To Print - And More dalton99a Sep 2018 #6
Adam Goldberg and Michael Schmidt... dchill Sep 2018 #8
Don't forget Haberman. brush Sep 2018 #16
I'd like to. dchill Sep 2018 #22
what? You mean the paper that brought us the WMDs still_one Sep 2018 #10
Ding ding malaise Sep 2018 #12
Judith Miller was a (willing?) pawn of Dick Cheney. stopbush Sep 2018 #18
Schmidt was on Morning Joe crowing about his lack of source standards that led us to this moment Trust Buster Sep 2018 #11
what do you mean crowing about his lack of source standards? nt Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #20
Whatever happens with Rosenstein, Mueller needs to issue a preliminary report. Hoyt Sep 2018 #13
The NY Times handed Trump a machete Chickensoup Sep 2018 #14
The NYT needs to be boycotted Gothmog Sep 2018 #15
K&R... spanone Sep 2018 #17
CNN confirmed the story the same day NY Times printed it JonLP24 Sep 2018 #23
Say what? Nevilledog Sep 2018 #27
NY Times included Rosenstein's denial in it JonLP24 Sep 2018 #29
I misunderstood your post perhaps. Nevilledog Sep 2018 #32
That is the scary part. King_Klonopin Sep 2018 #28
Agreed eom Tursiops Sep 2018 #24
The NYT is not a credible source so long as M. Schmidt works for it Gothmog Sep 2018 #26
what? But we just had a long convertsation about how good the media is. Weird. nt JCanete Sep 2018 #30
They wanted this to be their Reichstag fire moment Moral Compass Sep 2018 #31
I agree with Malcolm Nance Gothmog Sep 2018 #34

Nevilledog

(51,197 posts)
2. I concur.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 11:04 AM
Sep 2018

And I'm disgusted by the media reporting that it's an established fact that Rosenstein was serious about the comments when that's not supported by the people at the meeting.

Nevilledog

(51,197 posts)
19. Didn't I see somewhere that Rosenstein and Kavanaugh are besties?
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 11:40 AM
Sep 2018

Bet Kavanaugh is hiding out in his blanket fort wearing his Flash footie pajamas. (Flash cuz rumor has it Kav likes to show the peen)

unblock

(52,317 posts)
7. and it doesn't even make sense. no lawyer seriously talks about the 25th amendment
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 11:06 AM
Sep 2018

for a president that's not in a coma or nearly universally seen as clearly incapacitated.

it's harder to get the votes for that than for impeachment, so it makes zero sense to even talk about it.

dlk

(11,575 posts)
9. Anyone Can Read the NYT Free Online by Browsing Incognito
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 11:07 AM
Sep 2018

It's easy. Check online for instructions for your specific browser.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
25. No. If any one reporting is bad we can say so...throw the baby out with the bath water if you like.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 01:17 PM
Sep 2018

Shitler hates the NYT...what more do you need to know?

Cancel and help Shitler, no thanks!

LisaM

(27,830 posts)
33. Yes, I tend to take your view. Trump wants the NYT to fail so badly.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 01:44 PM
Sep 2018

He's entirely capable of planting a story as a diversion, but even if the NYT took the bait, I'm not going to stop reading it.

dchill

(38,531 posts)
8. Adam Goldberg and Michael Schmidt...
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 11:06 AM
Sep 2018

Patsies or willing accomplices?
Bob Woodwards or Geraldo Riveras?
Enquiring minds...

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
18. Judith Miller was a (willing?) pawn of Dick Cheney.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 11:39 AM
Sep 2018

The Times were also cheerleaders on the Whitewater BS against the Clintons.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
23. CNN confirmed the story the same day NY Times printed it
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 12:01 PM
Sep 2018

Maybe because it's true? The story seems very plausible to me because Trump is nuts. Who wouldn't float those ideas especially with a front row seat of Trump. He's crazy.

Nevilledog

(51,197 posts)
27. Say what?
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 01:35 PM
Sep 2018

Confirmed it how?. By ignoring Rosenstein's denial and the other people in the room who said it was a sarcastic quip directed at McCabe?.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
29. NY Times included Rosenstein's denial in it
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 01:38 PM
Sep 2018

Including a source that claimed it was sarcastic.

Mr. Rosenstein disputed this account.

“The New York Times’s story is inaccurate and factually incorrect,” he said in a statement. “I will not further comment on a story based on anonymous sources who are obviously biased against the department and are advancing their own personal agenda. But let me be clear about this: Based on my personal dealings with the president, there is no basis to invoke the 25th Amendment.”

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A Justice Department spokeswoman also provided a statement from a person who was present when Mr. Rosenstein proposed wearing a wire. The person, who would not be named, acknowledged the remark but said Mr. Rosenstein made it sarcastically.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/us/politics/rod-rosenstein-wear-wire-25th-amendment.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Nevilledog

(51,197 posts)
32. I misunderstood your post perhaps.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 01:43 PM
Sep 2018

I read it as CNN confirmed that Rosenstein seriously had conversations about trying to 25th trump.

My problem with much of the reporting is that it is saying it's an established fact that Rosenstein was serious while omitting the denials.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
28. That is the scary part.
Mon Sep 24, 2018, 01:35 PM
Sep 2018

I am glad someone has the balls to voice these thoughts, to speak truth to
power (in this case, illegitimate and corrupt power) Someone willing to risk
his ass to save the rest of us.

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