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Roland99

(53,342 posts) Mon Sep 24, 2018, 10:49 PM Sep 2018

Does this about sum it up re Kavirginaugh??

1) Kennedy retired and is reported to have cut a deal with the admin to have Kavanaugh as the nominee

2) Kennedy's son works at Deutsche Bank and provided trump family/org a $1 Billion loan

3) Kennedy had found for trump admin in some cases, bucking his general more liberal bent

4) Kavanaugh claims Presidents should not be subjected to investigations (Clinton excepted, of course)

5) Gamble v US was placed on SCOTUS docket right after Kennedy's retirement

6) Gamble is an attempt to eliminate separate sovereign jurisdictions. Meaning, State charges could not be brought up in addition to or subsequent to Federal charges (no so-called double jeopardy - more like double dipping)

7) blanket federal pardons could be issued to all involved in money laundering and illegal financial transactions with Russia, Turkey, whoever and be safe from any would be State charges

This would explain McConnell's hell-bent efforts to seat Kavanaugh (McConnell and/or his PACs have taken Russian money). Lindsey Graham used a server hacked by the Russians and may be compromised which would explain his sudden reversal of Never Trump and having been a defender of McCain

Kavanaugh had MASSIVE debts paid off in a very short amount of time. Was he involved in dirty money and being bribed/blackmailed?

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Does this about sum it up re Kavirginaugh?? (Original Post) Roland99 Sep 2018 OP

great summary. thanks. n/t CincyDem Sep 2018 #1

K&R highplainsdem Sep 2018 #2

The swamp is deep liberal N proud Sep 2018 #3

And wide. Cracklin Charlie Sep 2018 #4

Thank You! About those "MASSIVE debts".. Cha Sep 2018 #5

I agree. The sexual allegations are horrible, but it seems to me that his shady financial smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #11

Who has the skills, funding and organization to manage all this intrigue? procon Sep 2018 #6

They aren't clandestine quakerboy Sep 2018 #8

I loudly dispute the second half of #3, that Kennedy had any sort of liberal bent RockRaven Sep 2018 #7

Truth quakerboy Sep 2018 #9

Yes. Well put. Thank you. Roland99 Sep 2018 #12

wow. great summary. pardons, and graham is blackmailable, like kavenaugh certainot Sep 2018 #10

Never leave out that he lied under oath. JHB Sep 2018 #13

Sounds spot on, yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2018 #14

k & r Achilleaze Sep 2018 #15

CincyDem

(6,365 posts)

1. great summary. thanks. n/t

Reply to Roland99 (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2018, 10:50 PM

Sep 2018

highplainsdem

(49,005 posts)

2. K&R

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Mon Sep 24, 2018, 10:58 PM

Sep 2018

liberal N proud

(60,338 posts)

3. The swamp is deep

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Mon Sep 24, 2018, 11:04 PM

Sep 2018

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)

4. And wide.

Reply to liberal N proud (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 24, 2018, 11:13 PM

Sep 2018

Cha

(297,335 posts)

5. Thank You! About those "MASSIVE debts"..

Reply to Roland99 (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2018, 11:18 PM

Sep 2018

Link to tweet

We're in Fucking Hell.

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)

11. I agree. The sexual allegations are horrible, but it seems to me that his shady financial

Reply to Cha (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 01:40 AM

Sep 2018

situation would be a slam dunk. It would be pretty easy to research and would be certain to find some questionable, if not illegal, activity.

procon

(15,805 posts)

6. Who has the skills, funding and organization to manage all this intrigue?

Reply to Roland99 (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2018, 11:18 PM

Sep 2018

It can't just be just the Russians, they wouldn't know the American psyche any more than we would understand how Russians think. So there's got to be some clandestine American group doing the planning, but who, and why???

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)

8. They aren't clandestine

Reply to procon (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 25, 2018, 01:22 AM

Sep 2018

The NRA, the Republican party, etc. They are not clandestine. They are pretty in your face...

Just musing out loud.. But it would be interesting if someone had the time and energy to see if there are russian donations headed into the evangelical movement. It would explain a lot.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)

7. I loudly dispute the second half of #3, that Kennedy had any sort of liberal bent

Reply to Roland99 (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2018, 11:30 PM

Sep 2018

He had some libertarian tendencies, which seems to have influenced his position on the government's role in gay marriage. Which in conjunction with his role as the media-anointed "swing vote" seems to give people the idea he had some liberal leanings, but the record does not bear that out, really.

You are correct that his last year on the court was the first and only year since he became the "swing vote" that he never voted in a 5-4 majority with the "liberal wing." Previously he had happened to do so at least once per year, but to be honest it was never so common as to make the chance of one year's total being zero an impossibility given the small sample sizes. Especially if he was phoning it in because he had decided to retire anyway...