Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

kpete

(71,997 posts)
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 11:04 AM Sep 2018

Another Yale Classmate Rebuts Kavanaugh: was he lying then, or last night on Fox?


Jane Mayer

Another Yale Classmate Rebuts Kavanaugh: was he lying then, or last night on Fox? This classmate is now an award-winning history professor.



Steve Kantrowitz

Perhaps Brett Kavanaugh was a virgin for many years after high school. But he claimed otherwise in a conversation with me during our freshman year in Lawrance Hall at Yale, in the living room of my suite.





30 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Another Yale Classmate Rebuts Kavanaugh: was he lying then, or last night on Fox? (Original Post) kpete Sep 2018 OP
Kavanagh amuses me, not as much as he disgusts me. Nt BootinUp Sep 2018 #1
I've got this. He lied on fox last night. spanone Sep 2018 #2
why not both? Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2018 #10
It can't be. TexasTowelie Sep 2018 #3
Lying is a prerequisite for any guest appearing on Fox. nt procon Sep 2018 #4
True that. Fox followers would rather be lied too. Fleetwood Mac's oasis Sep 2018 #6
Who would even say they are a virgin on national tv under those circumstances? LiberalFighter Sep 2018 #5
Under ANY circumstances MaryMagdaline Sep 2018 #7
Right? Nevilledog Sep 2018 #8
Any man who doesn't remember his first time is a liar. It's a universal truth. Pepsidog Sep 2018 #12
maybe he was "blackout drunk" when it happened NewJeffCT Sep 2018 #13
Yep, many years after, I remember every detail of my first time. nt Blue_true Sep 2018 #21
He's lying now about the legal drinking age in high school and college. He lies whenever pnwmom Sep 2018 #9
Either way, I think it has already been proven that Brett Kavanaugh is a liar. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #11
There is a sentiment for the xtian faithful Horse with no Name Sep 2018 #14
Catholics don't believe that. watoos Sep 2018 #15
It may indeed not be doctrine, but I have a book that states just that. It was written by a priest. olegramps Sep 2018 #17
Made me think about the Jesuits and Jansenists from my paltry history studies erronis Sep 2018 #27
Conservatives, don't you just hate it when your lies catch up to you? ffr Sep 2018 #16
Nah. There are plenty more where those came from. erronis Sep 2018 #28
You don't have to lose your virginity to sexually assault a woman. Ilsa Sep 2018 #18
Honestly. Blue_true Sep 2018 #20
I hate to say "guilty by association," Ilsa Sep 2018 #23
I may have not fully fleshed out why I feel the way that I do. Blue_true Sep 2018 #24
An f'ed up guy like Kavanaugh likely don't consider rape sex. nt Blue_true Sep 2018 #19
Its not sex unless... wcmagumba Sep 2018 #26
I guess. nt Blue_true Sep 2018 #30
Just who the hell did the FBI talk to in the background checks? hexola Sep 2018 #22
It is not their job to decide to bring the guy forward. Blue_true Sep 2018 #25
True than, Blue. It would lay the blame for inaction directly at the WH and McNurtle. erronis Sep 2018 #29

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,356 posts)
10. why not both?
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 12:20 PM
Sep 2018

The two do not appear to be mutually exclusive. Kavanaugh did not necessarily tell the classmate the truth any more than he told Fox the truth. Likely, he embellished his exploits then, depending on his audience, and now denies the embellished versions and the accused versions.

I think he lies just because he's gotten away with it in the past.

oasis

(49,393 posts)
6. True that. Fox followers would rather be lied too. Fleetwood Mac's
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 11:39 AM
Sep 2018

"Tell Me Lies" would be a perfect national anthem for those idiots.

MaryMagdaline

(6,855 posts)
7. Under ANY circumstances
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 12:00 PM
Sep 2018

This guy is prurient and f'd up in so many ways. I thought originally that he was (1) mean; (2) not bright; and (3) ridiculously conservative. I now think that he is not human.

Nevilledog

(51,132 posts)
8. Right?
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 12:14 PM
Sep 2018

Like he's so virtuous, but he's also admitting to having sex out of wedlock before he got married at 39. I'm waiting for the women he managed to have consensual sex with to come forward.

I'd question him more closely on exactly WHEN and WHERE he popped his cherry..... If he couldn't answer immediately he's a fucking liar. For a guy who supposedly saved himself from underage, casual sex, finally getting laid would have been a momentous occasion (even if it only lasted a minute). And questions like these are not out of line thanks to Kavanaugh setting the bar for offensive questions during the Clinton debacle.

P.S. Wonder how he noted the big event on his beloved calendar?

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. Either way, I think it has already been proven that Brett Kavanaugh is a liar.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 12:26 PM
Sep 2018

He can't be trusted at all.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
14. There is a sentiment for the xtian faithful
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 12:58 PM
Sep 2018

That if you pray enough...you can get your virginity back. I suspect that this is what he is going to rebut these claims with.
He is reborn and forgiven and nothing else counts.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
17. It may indeed not be doctrine, but I have a book that states just that. It was written by a priest.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 02:07 PM
Sep 2018

erronis

(15,306 posts)
27. Made me think about the Jesuits and Jansenists from my paltry history studies
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 04:21 PM
Sep 2018

I can't remember which group was more amenable to mendacity or whatever it took to gain power.

Obviously the same veins of hypocrisy run in the other holier-than-thou cults.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
16. Conservatives, don't you just hate it when your lies catch up to you?
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 02:03 PM
Sep 2018

Enjoy another cringe-worthy day! Sleazeballs!

erronis

(15,306 posts)
28. Nah. There are plenty more where those came from.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 04:22 PM
Sep 2018

Even having a lie acknowledged is a bit of a PR win.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
18. You don't have to lose your virginity to sexually assault a woman.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 02:14 PM
Sep 2018

He could have unzipped and forcibly wiggled his "little finger" in the faces of every woman in the dorm and remained a virgin.

Tearing the clothes off of Dr. Ford, while suppressing her screams, didn't cause him to lose his virginity, but it was assault.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. Honestly.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 02:31 PM
Sep 2018

I just don't see the best friend of a guy who admitted being involved in at least one gang rape not being involved. He hung out with Judge and got girls drunk with him. It presses rationality that if he got girls drunk with a guy that gang raped drunken girls, that somehow Kavanaugh avoided all of that.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
23. I hate to say "guilty by association,"
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 03:11 PM
Sep 2018

but it seems pretty obvious. I doubt he was simply a watcher.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. I may have not fully fleshed out why I feel the way that I do.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 03:46 PM
Sep 2018

The activities of Judge seemed so PERVASIVE, and Kavanaugh was his best bud.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
22. Just who the hell did the FBI talk to in the background checks?
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 02:38 PM
Sep 2018

Really making the FBI look like crap every time more comes out.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. It is not their job to decide to bring the guy forward.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 03:48 PM
Sep 2018

They may have found all the problems that are cropping up, gave the info to the White House and that info got buried.

erronis

(15,306 posts)
29. True than, Blue. It would lay the blame for inaction directly at the WH and McNurtle.
Tue Sep 25, 2018, 04:25 PM
Sep 2018

I absolutely know that there are many more records of interactions between the major players that are waiting to come out. Maybe later in book form but preferably earlier before we get another RW raping robot from the fedsocs installed.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Another Yale Classmate Re...