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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMichael Avenatti Has a Strategy - It Could Work, So I'm Not "Concerned"
He has a client who might be able to shed some more light on Kavanaugh's lack of character and rapey mindset.
His client, however, isn't quite ready to make her statement yet, and time's short. So Avenatti is dropping crumbs for the media to follow, building up anticipation and doing whatever his client needs.
Some people are, you know, "concerned" about his strategy. And that's supposed to get the rest of us "concerned."
Well, given the situation, I'm OK with letting the attorney work his strategy. He might just have the final blow ready to hammer everything home.
I'm not concerned. I'm hopeful.
rzemanfl
(29,565 posts)Meadowoak
(5,551 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)As far as I can tell, he's working hard for them. Some people are "concerned" that he's using women who are his clients. I think he's working hard FOR them.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)helping only certain types of Democrats would make him okay. Thanks for keeping things in perspective here, MM!
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)And Rahm is known as a hard-knuckle in-fighter.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)He seems to be going all in for his clients.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Avenatti to me, seems more in it for attention for himself. He is at best careless with regards to business, hence why he's been sued and lost on business matters repeatedly.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)by deep deep republican pockets and has been dismissed. The man behind it was a shady character without the means to prove his case and ended up not having the standing to pursue it further.
Nevilledog
(51,127 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)OhZone
(3,212 posts)I'm just glad we're not going easy on him!
TNLib
(1,819 posts)Either on Thursday or after thursday he's going to drop the big bomb on them and in this situation their are probably other victims out there and other bombs to be dropped.
What's crazy is the GOP is sticking their head in the sand
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Thursday promises to be a very busy news day, what with the hearing and Rosenstein. Even Avenatti won't be able to break anything effectively on Thursday. But I'm sure he realizes that.
FakeNoose
(32,653 posts)... so yes hopefully Wednesday is the day. Avenatti is carefully checking his client's story and other witnesses before he brings the whole story to the media. I think that's admirable, and also it's in his client's best interest to do that.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)calimary
(81,323 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)and delivers a pearl it will be worth reading the tweet. Until then just more volume twitter landfill, but that is just me.
His strategy is to poke the orange beast into reacting or spoiling his piece of daily chocolate cake.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)What a mess!
Twitter is what it is - a noisy place where everyone's a pundit. I don't use Twitter for politics - just business.
Samspadesnark
(75 posts)Spew my lunch on to the computer screen from out-loud laughing. LOL!!!!!!
Ninga
(8,275 posts)dont know...
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)we may know tomorrow. I can hardly wait.
Tdog
(6 posts)and neither does anyone else. I mean seriously, the more he waits the more the R's circle the wagons and move this thing forward.
UGGGGGGGGGG! Get on with it!
Sorry guys, been lurking for a long time and finally signed up. This mess has got me so pissed.
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FromTheAshes
(128 posts)PERIOD.
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)He is working for his client and she will come out on her time. We simply don't know the full story. There are serious concerns for any woman when she comes out with her story. It has to be even more difficult, and throws different aspects into play, when her story will be played out on the national stage.
I have to trust that he is working for his client and that she is making the final calls.
I'm not all that big on Avenatti but I'm concerned about Trump, Kav, and the rest of the Republicans.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Clients approach him, I think. He's good at getting publicity. Everyone has a talent.
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)That is valuable for a certain segment of clients needing an attorney. Very valuable.
calimary
(81,323 posts)In THIS day and age, in THIS political and societal climate, it's not just valuable, it's ESSENTIAL!
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,356 posts)Do "clouds and shadows" come after "concerned"? Or are clouds and shadows unique to emails? I feel like I should get this right, since I have no pearls to clutch.
Suggestion: Avenatti appears to be setting off firecrackers rather than dropping crumbs for the media. Most of today's media seem incapable of following crumbs to find the loaf. He may need to resort to a 2 by 4 between the eyes to get some to take note.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)you need to make quite a bit of it to get noticed.
There are only so many news people and so much time. The bigger the bangs the bigger the story, i guess.
peggysue2
(10,833 posts)I have my problems with Avenatti for being basically a showboater. But . . .if he delivers the goods before the hearings on Thursday, I'll be the first to cheer. Frankly, I didn't read the Dem leadership reaction as that condemning. There are few details at this moment. What are they suppose to say?
However, if Avenatti makes good on his promise? I guarantee all Dems will rally around the man and his client. Because Kavanaugh will be toast.
Nothing wrong with hope.
justie18
(169 posts)I was a big fan of Avenatti at one point, but increasingly his actions seem to be just grandstanding. The Democrats are ignoring him right now and most of the media is not interested either. It is just a tease now and comes across to some as very exploitive.
But if he delivers - great. Hope it is not too late to affect the vote for Kavanaugh.
Dave in VA
(2,037 posts)you for this MineralMan!
lunatica
(53,410 posts)If people want to judge him then do it on the success or failure of his record.
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,749 posts)Its what counts
Squinch
(50,956 posts)Hekate
(90,719 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Heck, Avenatti is even honest about his hair...no orange weave for him.
Seems he's set it up to be the more he's attacked, the more publicity and power he has. And to drop the hammer, so to speak, tomorrow...the day before the other Big Deals we've got going, when everyone will be glued to their news of preference, well that's just perfect. And the topping of whipped cream is that he doesn't need the Septuagenarians of the Senate. Guess what will dominate the news on Thursday? IMHO
spanone
(135,846 posts)Hekate
(90,719 posts)And at this moment in time, "some people" are concerned that another showman -- younger, sharper -- has entered the ring and might give Trump a run for his money? Oh please.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Funny how that is...
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)Avenatti has done what most Democrats find trouble with, changing the narrative. Democrats have the reich wing M$M to deal with. The M$M is complicit with Republicans. There is a fight going on now about the narrative. Traitorous Republicans want us to believe that Democrats are behind a conspiracy to slander Kavanaugh. The real narrative, that Avanatti is pushing, is that Kavanaugh is a monster, that he was responsible for enabling gang rapes, that Kavanaugh deserves a seat in jail and not a seat on the SC.
Whoever wins this battle of narratives, wins the war. The public needs to see Kavanaugh for what he is, a monster. He is not just anti-woman he is anti-worker, anti-democracy.
We should all be 100% behind Avenatti and pray that his client has the strength to tell her story, the truth.
calimary
(81,323 posts)understanding messaging. With guts and a side of backbone.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)rather than quickly force kavanaugh to withdraw with all these new evidence dropping at once. Delaying helps dems to build momentum for midterms and reduce gop chances to proceed with another nominee because time will be running out. Also, we are having broader national sexual abuse conversation that is good for the country. Young girls, future voters, are paying close attention.
calimary
(81,323 posts)Let the "drip-drip-drip" effect work for you.
And you're right, AlexSFCA, we ARE having a broader national sexual abuse conversation now, and that IS good for the country. It's about time we really looked at this and faced it all, and dug down into the many truths about it. And NOT let the perpetrators and abusers and predators slither away, facing NO consequences. I'm hoping Brett Kavanaugh goes down in flames, AND becomes a cautionary tale for our boys AND our girls, going forward. That you CAN'T do this shit and not have to pay for it. Bill Cosby is an excellent one. Even the mighty can fall, or be felled.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)calimary
(81,323 posts)He's exactly the kind of fighter the Democrats have needed - for DECADES!
Are you sick and tired of getting rolled? Of spineless Dems who always concede? Who never fight to the death? Even when that's what they're up against - and you have NO HOPE of even getting close to a win if you're up against an adversary who fights to the death while your automatic default is to go easy on 'em?
Hell, I've been waiting all my adult life for a fighter like Michael Avenatti on our side of the political equation. It's about time! It's LONG PAST time.
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)but
I can still be concerned
I understand why he operates the way he does but it must be hard on the women knowing their time in the "barrel" is coming soon
I can be concerned that we still have to fight this crap ovr and ovr
I am concerned there is even a possibility that if half of what his letter states is true, that we have evil men in charge that will willfully ignore it
hopefully he can prove these new allegations, and change the devastating course we are on but I remember he is only human and he is fighting evil itself so
concerned is kinda my constant state
ancianita
(36,105 posts)johnnyknj
(37 posts)He does have a little Trump in him. Remember, he was "very close" to identifying the guy who threatened Stormy in the parking lot - just like Trumps "investigators" were finding all that" very interesting" stuff in Hawaii about Obama's birth certificate. I like that he's a fighter but he has to deliver on the teases he throws out there.
calimary
(81,323 posts)Hey, I can be as machiavellian as the next guy. If we take a little bit of trump - the showmanship, the shrewd manipulation, the messaging and repetition of that messaging, all that stuff. My issue is - we haven't had ANYBODY like that on our side of the aisle, who can manage perception like he can. And unfortunately, in this day and age, we need that stuff! We need attack dogs! Loud, snarling, dominating the microphones and cameras. Savvy about soundbites and appearances and the LOOK of strength. The IMAGE of strength and power and might. It's LONG PAST TIME we had somebody doing that on our side! Wielding those weapons on OUR side. And FOR our side. People like him give us something to fight for and with. And more importantly than ever, these days, something to VOTE for.
I've said it before, here: I wish we could clone him.
OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)screwing with them, and it scares them. All good for me.
gordianot
(15,242 posts)I remember years ago someone related a HighSchool story about him and some friends pulling the train. My reaction to his story that sounds like rape since she was at a friends and the offer was to have sex in order to get back home. This person was shocked that I would call that rape his response she was a real slut and they had sex either before. I still classify that as rape but at age 26 had never heard the term pulling the train. After 45 years I would still call that rape. There is a certain amount of justice getting called on such acts years later.
My daughter who works as a Director of Student Life at Liberal Arts University told me recently Kavanaugh is already the poster child at her University how bad behavior drinking, drugs, and sex can come back and bite you.
Whatever the outcome of this sordid mess Kavanaugh is marked as a disgusting man child.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)"Pulling train" is what males call it. It's gang rape. Calling the victim a slut is a bogus excuse. It's a lie.
bluestarone
(16,979 posts)I love this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Goodheart
(5,334 posts)That his secret client is nothing but a troll who conned him, and that he's had to shut down his Twitter account to hide.
wishstar
(5,270 posts)"A 4Chan user posted on Tuesday that his girlfriend had called Avenatti on a burner phone and claimed to be a woman who had been assaulted by Kavanaugh in high school. He claimed that he and his girlfriend also pretended to be another person who could confirm the fictional woman's story. 4Chan is an internet message board which has been linked to the alt-right.
Avenatti told CBS News' Nancy Cordes on Tuesday that the post was false.
"There's nothing wrong! I had to go online to look, and I read this post, and I'm laughing. None of that happened. It's a complete fabrication. There's zero truth to it. When I say zero truth, I mean zero truth. Not a single thing in that is true," he said. Avenatti also said that his client was not having second thoughts about coming forward, saying that she is "remaining strong."
Avenatti tweeted on Sept. 23 that he and his client "will be demanding the opportunity to present testimony to the committee and will likewise be demanding that Judge and others be subpoenaed to testify. The nomination must be withdrawn."
Avenatti has said that his client will be coming forward shortly. Dr. Christine Blasey Ford and Deborah Ramirez have accused Kavanaugh of sexual assault during their high school and college years, respectively."
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)They "stall" too long, and she is unable to testify. First, it is her decision and it's not up to her to meet the expectations of others. In fact, it's time for her to receive consideration from others.
Second...how much farther is the case against BK set back? The prosecution of it, so to speak, would be exactly where it was last week, before we heard of her existence.
bdamomma
(63,883 posts)there is a method to his madness!!!!
Puzzler
(2,505 posts)-Puzzler
bucolic_frolic
(43,196 posts)This is one of the most tainted nominations in US history. It will be re-examined early and often. Republicans are not engaged with reality, they are ignoring anything that doesn't fit their political ideology and methodology. No one can live there for extended periods, and there is always blow back.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That perches in the soul -
And sings the tune without the words -
And never stops - at all.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I am doubtful at this point, though I would rather be hopeful.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)This hard push is disturbing.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)It is not only disturbing, it is frightening to me. These cretins are afraid of nothing and have NO decency.