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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSomething that really stood out to me during Kavanaugh's testimony this week was the
facial expressions of the Republican men.
Kavanaugh's opening statement was a study in rage, indignation and raw anger. The emotions he displayed were intense and, at times, unsettling and unnerving.
When the male Republican Senators began their speeches in defense of Kavanaugh (you can't even pretend that they questioned him), they were absolutely snarling.
I kept thinking that if a woman had behaved like this in a similar setting she would have been considered to be hysterical and none of her testimony would have been taken seriously.
blue cat
(2,415 posts)So sad because it hasnt moved the republicans in my life.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)... and you're guilty of the same thing.
This is DEEP Republican body culture and ol' boy body language.
ffr
(22,671 posts)It would have been a 24/7 Fox charade.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Men are forceful.
And thus, the conservative man can dismiss.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Been called, Emotional, on many of these boards. I just let them know that shows I have many more emotions than hate and fear.
Oh, I have them,too Ladies and Gents, but they are based on my common sense above all. I do not let hate and fear rule me.
That is why I despise Trump and the Republicans, because I remember when they had good Leaders like Dwight Eisenhower but the party has gone downhill ever since starting with Nixon.
SWBTATTReg
(22,144 posts)I think that they committed a huge mistake, just before the 2018 midterms. Doing this on TV especially. The ugliness I saw on display and thrown out there by the repug senators and Kav will never go away.
Why are we surprised? A rhetorical statement, but w/ the age of rump, this behavior is acceptable by their standards. Lash out at those who threaten them, regardless if you're guilty.
Look at rump, our disgusting so called president. A military school / prep school bully, accused 16 times. 16. This number is burned into my conscience. A sad pathetic, sexual predator no less.
You're right, a woman would have been branded hysterical. A sad commentary on our times that I thought was changing. I think the only way this will change is get rid of ALL of the old generation senators who feel like they are entitled, spoiled, and thus dangerous. We all know who these people are.
Take care, Arkansas Granny!
tblue37
(65,442 posts)at their peak snarling viciousness. I don't think those pictures will help the GOP with any voters who are not already art of the unmoving GOP/Trump base.
Bluepinky
(2,275 posts)She would have been publicly reprimanded had she been disrespectful to a Senator, like Kavenaugh was.
Arkansas Granny
(31,521 posts)Bluepinky
(2,275 posts)And Fox News would have said shes too emotional and her temperament isnt suitable for the Supreme Court (or any courtroom).
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)About this is they all gave many good ads for the up coming election.
Picture an ad of Lindsey Graham, I am a white ,single man, being told to shut up, then screeching about Democrats wanting power and hope you never get it!
Trying to cover their own lust for unbridled Power.
And then we have blubbering,crying Kavananaugh. How dare you?
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Remember when Senator Elizabeth Warren tried to read into the record a letter from Coretta Scott King during the Jeff Sessions AG hearing ? Bitch McConnell shut her down with a never-before used opinion. He would NEVER have done that to another man. NEVER.
Remember his comment: "She was warned. She was given an explanation, nevertheless she persisted."
RazBerryBeret
(3,075 posts)and a woman in his position would NEVER get away with those responses or expressions. Hopefully someday this attitude will change, but aggressive men are frequently considered "go getters" aggressive women are "bitchy".
ProfessorPlum
(11,257 posts)I thought he sounded like he was raving like a loon, though, not like a go getter.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)They can't stand someone like Barack Obama.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)know her relation to candidate) whose facial expressions l found extremely interesting. It ranged from concern, to sympathy, to disbelief. The thinly disguised disbelief seemed to be the dominant one. It contrasted sharply afterwards with the explosive anger of the Republicans much of which can be safely described as being directed at women. They seemed ignorant of the fact that all their mothers are women that they claim to respect.
Arkansas Granny
(31,521 posts)sisters, wives and daughters have experienced or will experience an assault like Dr. Ford described.
SharonAnn
(13,777 posts)LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)was telling. I get that exact same look when I'm disgusted by what I'm seeing and hearing. It must have been all she could do to hold back from grabbing him by the shoulders and telling him to knock it off and quit acting like a complete asshole. She knew he had a few breakfast beers and was out of control and there wasn't anything she could do in the moment to contain it.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I don't think Kavanaugh has stopped abusing. It's easy to picture him beating a woman when he's enraged, which seems to be frequent.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)I saw a woman who was disgusted by his behavior and who, behind closed doors, experiences a lot worse.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)In her face,dejected, sad. Looked like Melania the day of the inauguration. I saw an abused woman living with a mean drunk.
CrispyQ
(36,482 posts)Graham was absolutely disgusting.
enough
(13,259 posts)no matter what. They will impose their will.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)At some enemy of the group.
ProfessorPlum
(11,257 posts)thank you - I've been trying to figure out how to describe these simian dominance displays and just how embarrassing they are
SharonAnn
(13,777 posts)He had stood on the table
Stripped off his shirt
Beat on his chest
Given the Tarzan yell
Alpha male stuff.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)when going full tantrum. Women would be called loud mouthed bitches.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Can you even imagine if one of our female Senators went on a screaming, threatening diatribe like he did?
paleotn
(17,931 posts)AZ Jim
(70 posts)LisaL
(44,974 posts)Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)paleotn
(17,931 posts)White men. They're losing demographically and philosophically. Their day is over and they know it. Lets hope we can limited the damage as they go out.
Akacia
(583 posts)the words of Mrs. King. And still she persisted!
alterfurz
(2,474 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)And scary.
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Damn
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Damn.....😳
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)sure sounded terrified to me from her first words.
CousinIT
(9,249 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,375 posts)Some hysterical old white men could take a lesson.
CousinIT
(9,249 posts)In all their glory, a whole group of them in one place for all of us to see during these hearings.
Such snarling, spittle-flecked, fist-pounding, teary-eyed "I'm SUCH a victim!" hysteria is ONLY reserved for (white) conservative MEN.
THIS enraged fear at losing their place as America's #1 democraphic is one of the primary substances that Trump rode into office upon. (racism, sexism)
Any women behaving that way would be slapped into a straightjacket and escorted directly to the nearest insane asylum (or drunk tank/rehab center) by security and the over-ruling Patriarchy within 10 minutes. BUT - IOIYAR + WM (It's OK if you're a Republican + white male)
They're having a RAGING testosterone-fueled HISSY-FIT because America - and especially America's women - are not doing what they want - not allowing who they want to be easily shoved into one of the most powerful positions in the country - just because the AWM contingent SAID so and historically, what the AWM contingent said they wanted done got DONE.
We're supposed to SIT DOWN, SHUT UP and OBEY like good little "minorities" (even though non-male + non-whites are not a minority in this country)
Look at All These Angry Boys
https://www.thecut.com/2018/09/look-at-all-these-angry-boys.html
Kavanaughs Testimony Was a Master Class in American Male Entitlement
https://www.thecut.com/2018/09/kavanaugh-hearing-testimony-male-entitlement.html?utm_source=tw
Why are so many white men so angry?
The last half-century has eroded their advantages, leaving them fuming. <--- this right here is what I'm talkin' about.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/08/29/why-are-so-many-white-men-so-angry/
King_Klonopin
(1,306 posts)Analyzing the psychology of Kavanaugh (and Trump, Hatch, Grassley, etc.)
could take days. But the reaction by him is directly out of the abuser playbook.
Put the focus on the accuser.
Portray yourself as a victim (boo-hoo and tear up whenever you can)
Portray your accuser as a liar who is destroying your great reputation.
Be over-the-top enraged and indignant. The louder you protest, the more innocent you are.
Accuse the accuser of exaggerating, being crazy, vindictive, slutty, drunk, etc.
Excuse your own behavior.
Lie, lie, lie and lie some more -- right to the very end.