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lindysalsagal

(20,708 posts)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 01:45 PM Sep 2018

WAPO Op Ed: "Kavanaugh is lying. His upbringing explains why." Great read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/kavanaugh-is-lying-his-upbringing-explains-why/2018/09/27/2b596314-c270-11e8-b338-a3289f6cb742_story.html?utm_term=.b89294265208

Subtitle: The elite learn early that they’re special — and that they won’t face consequences.

Brett Kavanaugh is not telling the whole truth. When President George W. Bush nominated him to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit in 2006, he told senators that he’d had nothing to do with the war on terror’s detention policies; that was not true. Kavanaugh also claimed under oath, that year and again this month, that he didn’t know that Democratic Party memos a GOP staffer showed him in 2003 were illegally obtained; his emails from that period reveal that these statements were probably false. And it cannot be possible that the Supreme Court nominee was both a well-behaved virgin who never lost control as a young man, as he told Fox News and the Senate Judiciary Committee this past week, and an often-drunk member of the “Keg City Club” and a “Renate Alumnius ,” as he seems to have bragged to many people and written into his high school yearbook. Then there are the sexual misconduct allegations against him, which he denies.


Kavanaugh’s privilege runs deep, and it shows. He grew up in a wealthy Washington suburb where his father spent three decades as CEO of a trade association. There has been a sense among his supporters that his place is deserved, which mirrors the climate of aristocratic inheritance he grew up around. His peers from the party of personal responsibility have largely rallied around him, seeking to protect his privilege. As a Bush-era White House press secretary, Ari Fleischer, put it: “How much in society should any of us be held liable today when we lived a good life, an upstanding life by all accounts, and then something that maybe is an arguable issue took place in high school? Should that deny us chances later in life?” American Conservative editor Rod Dreher wondered “why the loutish drunken behavior of a 17 year old high school boy has anything to tell us about the character of a 53 year old judge.”

This collective agreement that accountability doesn’t apply to Kavanaugh (and, by extension, anybody in a similar position who was a youthful delinquent) may help explain why he seems to believe he can lie with impunity — a trend he continued Thursday, when he informed senators that he hadn’t seen the testimony of his accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, even though a committee aide told the Wall Street Journal he’d been watching. In his furious interview with the panel that afternoon, Kavanaugh appeared astonished that anybody might impugn his character or try to keep him from the seat he is entitled to. “I’m never going to get my reputation back,” he complained.

While they seem contradictory, servant leadership and privilege are often bedfellows. Both suggest not a commonality with the ordinary American, but instead a standing above Everyman. Both justify locating power within a small elite because this elite is better equipped to lead. (Retired justice Anthony Kennedy, according to some reports, hand-picked Kavanaugh as his successor — a rather astonishing circumvention of the democratic process and the separation of powers.) Both have at their core not a commitment to shared democracy but a moral imperative to lead because of one’s exceptional qualities. And both allow space for lying in service of the greater good. Privilege means that things like perjury aren’t wrong under one’s own private law.
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WAPO Op Ed: "Kavanaugh is lying. His upbringing explains why." Great read. (Original Post) lindysalsagal Sep 2018 OP
That Rod Dreher quote BeyondGeography Sep 2018 #1
And if they are African-American three malaise Sep 2018 #3
The Cons are bad for my blood pressure BeyondGeography Sep 2018 #4
Sometimes, just walking down the street can even get you killed. pangaia Sep 2018 #11
Sometimes being in your own apartment can get you killed malaise Sep 2018 #13
Yes. Beyond the pale.... pangaia Sep 2018 #23
yes. Demovictory9 Sep 2018 #20
So Dreher agrees that Kav was a loutish drunk at 17? ChubbyStar Sep 2018 #5
I was 17 the year Kavanaugh was born .. DemoTex Sep 2018 #6
Yes, and then they get to play "patriots" anyway BeyondGeography Sep 2018 #7
+1. yonder Sep 2018 #8
Exhibit 1 George W. Bush llmart Sep 2018 #10
George W. is proof of what you say. Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #14
So true DemoTex. This made me cry. MaryMagdaline Sep 2018 #27
K&R Solly Mack Sep 2018 #2
he is actually inferior KT2000 Sep 2018 #9
He shouldn't be allowed to be manager of a local chain of McDonald's, much less KFC. pangaia Sep 2018 #12
He wouldn't be considered for Mr.Bill Sep 2018 #16
Journalists seem to overlook fraternity connections Mr.Bill Sep 2018 #15
Fox has given cover to a generation of immoral, self-indulged liars detached from reality and Pepsidog Sep 2018 #17
K&R. Damn good summary in one sentence. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #24
They are protecting the sacred history of this kind of stuff MountCleaners Sep 2018 #18
Thank You for posting this..k and r. Stuart G Sep 2018 #19
Well reasoned, and well written. K & R Achilleaze Sep 2018 #21
K&R, thanks for posting red dog 1 Sep 2018 #22
Best exceptional, definitive line of the day for me was.... KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #25
Don't blame his upbringing. It's a choice mythology Sep 2018 #26
I told my wife last night that Kav had a bad case of Affluenza n/t tikka Sep 2018 #28
Excellent article. So true. Power 2 the People Sep 2018 #29
Brock Turner's father's statement UpInArms Oct 2018 #30
"the character of a 53 year old judge" Martin Eden Oct 2018 #31

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
1. That Rod Dreher quote
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 01:50 PM
Sep 2018
“why the loutish drunken behavior of a 17 year old high school boy has anything to tell us about the character of a 53 year old judge.”


A lot of poor 17-year-old males who are out of control don’t make it to 53, and if they do there’s at least an arrest record if not a few prison stays en route. Asshole.

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
4. The Cons are bad for my blood pressure
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 02:04 PM
Sep 2018

Especially in times like these. A little empathy goes a long way, but their whole belief system takes a nice wide detour around that particular value.

malaise

(269,093 posts)
13. Sometimes being in your own apartment can get you killed
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 04:14 PM
Sep 2018

Ask Botham Jean.
That Texas cop would have been dead already if that were a preppie's apartment.

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
5. So Dreher agrees that Kav was a loutish drunk at 17?
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 02:12 PM
Sep 2018

What about the choir boy image Kav steadfastly maintains? These fuckers have NO SHAME.

DemoTex

(25,399 posts)
6. I was 17 the year Kavanaugh was born ..
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 02:13 PM
Sep 2018

And a whole lot of boys born, like me, in 1948, would turn 18 and graduate from high school when Kavanaugh was one year old. And many of them would get drafted and go to Vietnam, with some never making their 19th birthday.

I was 22 when I arrived in Vietnam. And I was lucky to survive a full tour of duty.

There is little doubt in my mind that, had Kavanaugh been draft age in the mid-60s, he would have been spared, one way or another (bone spurs?). I grew up with some wealthy prep-schoolers and frat boys, a couple of whom flunked out of college (one of those died of the drink at age 38) yet never spent a minute sweating the draft. Daddy took care of it.

End of rant.

BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
7. Yes, and then they get to play "patriots" anyway
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 02:23 PM
Sep 2018

Too many people in this country just flat-out suck at character judgment.

yonder

(9,668 posts)
8. +1.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 03:24 PM
Sep 2018

Then, when older, they award themselves the American flag lapel pin which apparently mitigates any entitled lack of duty as a youth. After that they are free to thump their puffed-up chests for "America", all the while pushing ill-advised interests. And then defending those interests often requires arranging for others, not themselves, to provide the ultimate sacrifice.

Puffed-up pukes make me sick.

llmart

(15,542 posts)
10. Exhibit 1 George W. Bush
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 03:42 PM
Sep 2018

They tried to sell him as someone who "flew aircraft during the Viet Nam war". I know people who translated that into W actually was in Viet Nam. They may have read a headline and that's what stuck in their mind. Slots in the reserves or National Guard were not easy to get if that was an option some men were considering. Then the entitled frat boy didn't even attend all the meetings that were required.

We can all name guys like him who knew they'd never be drafted. We also knew guys who, under any other circumstances, would never be accepted to college, but even though they were C, D students somehow they were able to get into college (had the money from parents) and get one deferment after another.

Patriots my ass.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
14. George W. is proof of what you say.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 04:20 PM
Sep 2018

He was given entry to a privileged unit, where he was AWOL when he wanted to be AWOL. During wartime. Absent from his post of duty.

On the first day of W's military service in Texas, another boy from the same home town of Midland was on his first day of military duty -- in the rice paddies of Vietnam. He was killed there, that first day. I have his name somewhere.

And then W's AWOL was covered over on the Friday before the General Election, by Karl Rove/FOX. Just as it was about to be revealed by Senator Bob Kerrey.

Never forget.

MaryMagdaline

(6,855 posts)
27. So true DemoTex. This made me cry.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 06:20 PM
Sep 2018

I was thinking the other day how we protected white make privilege in the past, when the draft was on and white males served in large numbers. Perhaps society felt something was owed to them. These little shits who are all privilege and no service are unbearable.

Anecdote: My sister attended my cousin’s funeral in Detroit a few years ago. He was Vietnam era but mostly safe on ship. The Detroit area suffered huge losses because blue collar guys were drafted while college kids skated. My cousin’s funeral was packed with veterans. Mostly Republican. To this day, they resent the college elites who are liberal but get right in line behind the Kavanaughs and the Trumps of this world. Unbelievable

KT2000

(20,585 posts)
9. he is actually inferior
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 03:35 PM
Sep 2018

If not for his "aristocratic inheritance" and the political dues he feels he has paid, he would never be a consideration for Justice of the Supreme Court. He just does not have the qualities necessary.

Mr.Bill

(24,305 posts)
16. He wouldn't be considered for
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 04:27 PM
Sep 2018

shift manager at Wendy's. He would have been fired long ago for assaulting female employees in the bathroom and would in all likelihood be a registered sex offender.

Mr.Bill

(24,305 posts)
15. Journalists seem to overlook fraternity connections
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 04:25 PM
Sep 2018

when studying the backgrounds of politicians. It would be interesting to see who in the Senate belonged to the same frat as Kavanaugh. And it doesn't have to be from the same era. These loyalties and connections transverse generations. These people stick together like a rat pack.

Remember when no one could figure why George H. W. Bush picked Dan Quayle as his VP? There were many more who would have been seen as more qualified and closer to the head of the line. Bob Dole, for instance.

You guessed it, same fraternity.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
17. Fox has given cover to a generation of immoral, self-indulged liars detached from reality and
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 04:27 PM
Sep 2018

tethered to the evangelical right and other rw nut jobs to undermine democracy in support of the interests of the rich and corporations.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
24. K&R. Damn good summary in one sentence.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 05:41 PM
Sep 2018

If not for that poison in our society since the 90s, I often wonder how different things would be today.....

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
18. They are protecting the sacred history of this kind of stuff
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 04:32 PM
Sep 2018

I can't post links to this article enough. There should be more journalism on what went on at DKE.

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2018/09/20/a-flag-of-underwear-photo-from-kavanaughs-time-shows-dke-hijinks/

Many of us went to elite colleges in the eighties, where we saw future business and political leaders engaging in debauchery if not outright abuse of women.

Let's not forget all of the fraternities that have blackface or other rituals. One fraternity at a grad school I attended had a cross-burning every year. Another one - FIJI - dressed in grass skirts and brownface. Yet another was written about in the campus paper for chanting "Rape! Fuck! Shit!" on the front lawn of their frat house. These people are all working for banks or law firms or even the Republican Party now.

This is all common knowledge and fools no one who actually went to college, but Repug's supporters are not educated and have no idea. If they did go to college, they probably participated in this system. I'll bet every one of them knows about at least one or two rapes at a drunken party. When I was in college, the stories were so common. And it was always the sporty frats that were the worst.

red dog 1

(27,827 posts)
22. K&R, thanks for posting
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 04:50 PM
Sep 2018

Rod Dreher wonders "why the loutish drunken behavior (including attempted rape) of a 17 year old boy has anything to do with a 53 year old judge"????

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
25. Best exceptional, definitive line of the day for me was....
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 06:03 PM
Sep 2018

"Privilege means that things like perjury aren’t wrong under one’s own private law".

I've felt for many years that most wealthy and privileged folks in our society operate in an almost completely separate sphere of existence - focused around gated communities, golf clubs, board rooms, elite clubs and societies and social events where common folks are excluded. And, they operate by their own set of rules and norms.

Sadly in our culture, this is celebrated as having climbed the ladder of success.

In the world I was raised in, separating myself from any of my fellow man is not considered success.

Thanks for the great post, lindysalsagal........

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
26. Don't blame his upbringing. It's a choice
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 06:20 PM
Sep 2018

The Kennedy brothers grew up rich. I grew up with an abusive piece of crap for a dad. I consciously chose to not be him. It's a cop out to blame his childhood. He was born into advantage and abused that.

Martin Eden

(12,872 posts)
31. "the character of a 53 year old judge"
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 01:42 PM
Oct 2018

Kavanaugh revealed his character on Thursday by letting loose his rage, self-pity, and political partisanship.

Regardless of what happened 36 years ago, last week's performance should absolutely disqualify him from consideration for a lifetime appointment to our nation's highest court.

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