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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 05:45 PM Sep 2018

I use to Love seeing The U.S. win the Ryder Cup.

Not Now... Professional U.S.A. Golfers are generally Right Wing Oriented.. I use to ignore this fact but not anymore.. Trump has changed everything.. I was happy as hell that the U.S.A. lost today. Last time the USA won the Cup.. American fans were particularly obnoxious! I know European fans can be too. But that USA USA USA chant... is just too much..


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I use to Love seeing The U.S. win the Ryder Cup. (Original Post) busterbrown Sep 2018 OP
I used to live in the land of the mouse and it is literally full of golf courses. dameatball Sep 2018 #1
My experience is that golfers constantly search for ways to NCjack Sep 2018 #3
As do beach homeowners regarding insurance rates. dameatball Sep 2018 #6
Same group of people. NCjack Sep 2018 #9
My nearby FL golf course mcar Sep 2018 #4
This is a good thing. dameatball Sep 2018 #7
I have seen that on golf courses in California. Blue_true Sep 2018 #8
Too damned hot for sure mcar Sep 2018 #12
I have lived spates in other parts of the country. Blue_true Sep 2018 #14
Our first fall in West Central FL mcar Sep 2018 #16
Yes, it's like being in a sauna. nt Blue_true Sep 2018 #17
In Iowa too for watering fairways. IADEMO2004 Sep 2018 #10
Anything that means Don the Con has nothing to celebrate is fine with me malaise Sep 2018 #2
I guess you won't be reading my post in the sports area........ a kennedy Sep 2018 #5
Golf Magazine recent poll of tour pros: moondust Sep 2018 #11
A lot of those golfers grew up around exclusive country clubs, Blue_true Sep 2018 #15
My theory moondust Sep 2018 #19
Sounds like a correct view to me. nt Blue_true Sep 2018 #20
Thanks Moondust busterbrown Sep 2018 #22
Common to almost all sports... Wounded Bear Sep 2018 #13
Phil Mickelson is one of the worst. Power 2 the People Sep 2018 #18
People like him and Tiger have a mindset where they can never accept losing at anything. Blue_true Sep 2018 #21
I rooted for Europe Awsi Dooger Oct 2018 #23

dameatball

(7,399 posts)
1. I used to live in the land of the mouse and it is literally full of golf courses.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 06:09 PM
Sep 2018

They all use tons of water, some recycled, some not. They all use tons of fertilizers which drain into the local ponds, lakes and rivers. There are quite a few public golf courses, but many are private.

Sometimes I wonder who is going to foot the bill to maintain these places when the price of a gallon of water skyrockets. Which is something that people smarter than me have also asked. Many of these so-called golfing communities are not rich at all. They are retirement places and often manufactured homes make up a significant part of them. What happens when it becomes too expensive for those retirees to pay the maintenance fees?


I think they may very well start to be the equivalent of abandoned strip malls.

As to your OP, yes. I agree.





NCjack

(10,279 posts)
3. My experience is that golfers constantly search for ways to
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 06:32 PM
Sep 2018

reassign the cost of their sport to others.

mcar

(42,337 posts)
4. My nearby FL golf course
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 06:34 PM
Sep 2018

Made an arrangement with the city to use reclaimed water from the waste management plant for fertilizer. I was ahppy to see this in this Red county.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. I have seen that on golf courses in California.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 06:49 PM
Sep 2018

I don't play golf in Florida, too damned hot most of the time, except in winter.

mcar

(42,337 posts)
12. Too damned hot for sure
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 07:54 PM
Sep 2018

Sept was 10 degrees above average. I've been here 27 years and this is the worst summer ever.

Although, winter has sucked for quite a while. I remember when I'd have to wear sweaters for a couple months or so. Now it's a few weeks at best.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. I have lived spates in other parts of the country.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:13 PM
Sep 2018

So I don't have the cumulative years here that you do. But I know that last winter, the most I did was wear two short sleeved teeshirts during the coldest periods, and I had no issues, often being too warm. No wonder that we have bad red tide and green sludge, with phosphates from lawns and big sugar being put in the water, and with climate change deniers running the state, bad ends are to be expected.

mcar

(42,337 posts)
16. Our first fall in West Central FL
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:26 PM
Sep 2018

1993. My then 6 YO son had to wear a heavy jacket over his Halloween costume.

Fast forward to 2003. My 2ND kid, then 6 YO (yes my kids are 10 yrs apart) tore off his Harry Potter costume halfway into Trick or Treating because he was too hot.

The beautiful pond near our home is overwhelmed with weeds 6 ft high.

FL used to be nice. Now it sucks.

malaise

(269,087 posts)
2. Anything that means Don the Con has nothing to celebrate is fine with me
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 06:15 PM
Sep 2018

Sport has never been apolitical.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
11. Golf Magazine recent poll of tour pros:
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 07:36 PM
Sep 2018
DID YOU VOTE FOR TRUMP?

YES: 56%
NO: 12%
INELIGIBLE: 18%
DIDN’T VOTE: 14%

“He was the lesser of two evils.”

IF HE RUNS AGAIN IN 2020, WILL YOU VOTE FOR HIM?

YES: 42%
NO: 20%
INELIGIBLE: 19%
UNDECIDED: 14%
WON’T VOTE: 5%

“F— yeah, I’m voting for Trump.”
“I’m not a citizen but if I could, it wouldn’t be for Trump.”
“I won’t vote for Donald Trump, but I’ll still vote Republican.”
“He’s made me some money. That’s all I care about.”

http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/2018/09/12/anonymous-pga-tour-survey-tiger-woods-donald-trump/

There used to be a bunch of fundies on the tour but I don't know about now.

From 2007:
In a Sports Illustrated survey of 76 U.S. Tour players published in March, 88 percent said they supported the American invasion of Iraq, and 91 percent supported Bush’s controversial nomination of Samuel Alito to the U.S. Supreme Court – a judge who was welcomed by Republican and fundamentalist Christian groups as the court’s swing vote in one day outlawing abortion.

http://otlgolf.com/jan_inside_TOUR.htm

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. A lot of those golfers grew up around exclusive country clubs,
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:19 PM
Sep 2018

either as part of member families or as caddies. Their world view is likely shaped by that Caddyshack culture. I would expect them to be rightwing and mysogonistic. I don't watch televised golf, don't need to pad those assholes' wallets.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
19. My theory
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:53 PM
Sep 2018

is that most of them grew up on golf courses in the south or far west where the playing season is longer. Their parents had the money to buy them country club memberships year after year. They probably took a lot of lessons and hit a million golf balls in order to get real good at a difficult game to get real good at. The expense of doing all that probably explains why the tour is mostly privileged white guys from wealthier families who would vote for a privileged white guy like Drumpf.

I also think Drumpf probably took up the game of golf because it has historically been a privileged white guy's game with few minorities around.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
22. Thanks Moondust
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:17 PM
Sep 2018

It's as simple as that.. Golf is a sport for the wealthy.. and if your wealthy and ignorant? You only care about your own home.. Simple as thAT!

Wounded Bear

(58,673 posts)
13. Common to almost all sports...
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:03 PM
Sep 2018

maybe not basketball, but when athletes get rich, they tend to lean Repub to protect the bounty, you know what I mean?

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
18. Phil Mickelson is one of the worst.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:50 PM
Sep 2018

He earned 60 million the year he whined about having to pay $13,000 in social security taxes.

[link:https://money.cnn.com/2013/01/23/news/economy/mickelson-taxes/index.html|]

As a true Republican, the 60 million wasn't enough for him so he stole some more via insider trading.And just like a typical Republican he was caught but was allowed to get away with it.

[link:https://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonynitti/2016/05/19/golfer-phil-mickelson-to-repay-1-million-in-gains-from-insider-trading-is-it-tax-deductible/#10e464a61232|]

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. People like him and Tiger have a mindset where they can never accept losing at anything.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:03 PM
Sep 2018

They can't accept honestly buying stocks and taking their lumps if the stocks go down in value. They need a sure thing, a surety that they will get a paycheck, even when they finish in 30th place. Surety that any company they put money into will make them more money. They have the risk averse mindset that is destroying American and international companies, they would never put money into a May-be but unproven venture and accept losing money if the venture fails.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
23. I rooted for Europe
Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:02 AM
Oct 2018

Worked out perfectly because I wanted Tony Finau to do well for the USA, but for Europe to prevail.

That's exactly how it played out.

Finau is the first man or woman from the long running Big Break series on Golf Channel both to win a tournament and also to play on the premier international team event. Previously several female Big Break alumni -- Kristy McPherson, Ryann O'Toole, Gerina Piller -- had played on the Solheim Cup team, but none of them have won on tour.

With the males it was exactly the opposite: Tommy Gainey, Matt Every and Finau had won events on the PGA Tour, but until this week none of them had played on the Ryder Cup team.

Finau had the most lopsided singles win today...6 & 4 over previously unbeaten Tommy Fleetwood, who was 4-0 in the team competitions paired with Francesco Molinari.

Tiger was a pathetic 0-4 and Mickelson was 0-2

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