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CatWoman

(79,302 posts) Sun Sep 30, 2018, 07:18 PM Sep 2018

Exactly how would abolishing the 13th Amendment help black people?????

Kanye -- you're a complete tool AND an idiot.

Kanye West Called to Abolish Amendment that Ended Slavery: It’s ‘Slavery in Disguise’

Kanye West, or rather the artist formerly known as Kanye West since he now prefers to be referred to as YE, took to Twitter on Saturday to call for the abolition of the 13th Amendment.

The problem is, the 13th Amendment just so happens to be the amendment which abolishes slavery.

West tweeted out his thoughts on the 13th Amendment complete with a photo of him in a MAGA hat.

“We will provide jobs for all who are free from prisons as we abolish the 13th amendment,” West wrote. “Message sent with love.”

Link to tweet

https://www.mediaite.com/online/kanye-west-called-to-abolish-amendment-that-ended-slavery-its-slavery-in-disguise/

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Exactly how would abolishing the 13th Amendment help black people????? (Original Post) CatWoman Sep 2018 OP

Why does anyone care what that poor brain damaged man says? Squinch Sep 2018 #1

Putin Cares violetpastille Sep 2018 #2

Not really EffieBlack Sep 2018 #7

We don't disagree. violetpastille Sep 2018 #8

SMH Solly Mack Sep 2018 #3

The 13th amendment legalized slavery in the prison system. former9thward Sep 2018 #4

The only person Trump wants to reduce the criminal justice system for is himself mythology Sep 2018 #6

Convict labor and convict leasing existed prior to the Civil War struggle4progress Sep 2018 #11

Wrong. former9thward Sep 2018 #13

You may read the debates on the amendment in the old Congressional Globe, if you like: struggle4progress Oct 2018 #15

That is an odd way of putting it dsc Sep 2018 #12

No. former9thward Sep 2018 #14

I'm hardly surprised that's what you assume. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #17

Careful, future president there!1 UTUSN Sep 2018 #5

"Everybody had such good times down on the plantation, until those damn yankees interfered" struggle4progress Sep 2018 #9

Kanye is an ignorant fool. Blue_true Sep 2018 #10

I think I get what he means, but he is saying it in the wrong way. logosoco Oct 2018 #16

Squinch

(50,957 posts)

1. Why does anyone care what that poor brain damaged man says?

Reply to CatWoman (Original post)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 07:21 PM

Sep 2018

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)

2. Putin Cares

Reply to Squinch (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 07:29 PM

Sep 2018

It helps divide us.

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)

7. Not really

Reply to violetpastille (Reply #2)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:24 PM

Sep 2018

Most black people don't pay any attention to him. For the most part, his political opinions are respected only by a handful of ignorant white people.

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)

8. We don't disagree.

Reply to EffieBlack (Reply #7)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:52 PM

Sep 2018

I really can't speak about the black community.

Everything I know of what black people think of Kanye I read at The Root.

Ignorant white people on the other hand..that I can.

Solly Mack

(90,776 posts)

3. SMH

Reply to CatWoman (Original post)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 07:32 PM

Sep 2018

Idiot Trump supporter.

former9thward

(32,038 posts)

4. The 13th amendment legalized slavery in the prison system.

Reply to CatWoman (Original post)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 07:35 PM

Sep 2018

I assume that is what he is tweeting about.

mythology

(9,527 posts)

6. The only person Trump wants to reduce the criminal justice system for is himself

Reply to former9thward (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:18 PM

Sep 2018

He's fine with putting kids in cages, he's fine with calling for falsely convicted teenagers to be put to death. But then again that assumes Kanye West isn't a blithering idiot and actually knows what he's talking about.

struggle4progress

(118,316 posts)

11. Convict labor and convict leasing existed prior to the Civil War

Reply to former9thward (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:19 PM

Sep 2018

Amendment XIII did not "legalize" convict labor and convict leasing but simply did not abolish these practices with the abolition of chattel slavery

former9thward

(32,038 posts)

13. Wrong.

Reply to struggle4progress (Reply #11)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:13 PM

Sep 2018

The "prison system" was minimal before the civil war. The 13th amendment put any prison slave practices into the Constitution so they could not be challenged.

struggle4progress

(118,316 posts)

15. You may read the debates on the amendment in the old Congressional Globe, if you like:

Reply to former9thward (Reply #13)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:28 PM

Oct 2018

the issue (of course) was whether to ban slavery or not, and Congress was not all of one united mind on that question

The US had been founded, without taking an overall position on slavery, and no one at the debates on this amendment was much interested in the question of whether a person might be condemned to labor on conviction for a crime, compared to the real question the amendment sought to resolve after a great civil war, which was whether person might be condemned to slavery, without due process

dsc

(52,164 posts)

12. That is an odd way of putting it

Reply to former9thward (Reply #4)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:21 PM

Sep 2018

Slavery in and out of prisons was legal the 13th just refrained from abolishing it in prisons.

former9thward

(32,038 posts)

14. No.

Reply to dsc (Reply #12)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:15 PM

Sep 2018

Please please read the amendment. The amendment specifically mentioned slavery in prisons and put the practice into the Constitution so it could not be challenged.

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

17. I'm hardly surprised that's what you assume.

Reply to former9thward (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:57 PM

Oct 2018

UTUSN

(70,718 posts)

5. Careful, future president there!1

Reply to CatWoman (Original post)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 07:38 PM

Sep 2018

struggle4progress

(118,316 posts)

9. "Everybody had such good times down on the plantation, until those damn yankees interfered"

Reply to CatWoman (Original post)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:09 PM

Sep 2018

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)

10. Kanye is an ignorant fool.

Reply to CatWoman (Original post)

Sun Sep 30, 2018, 09:17 PM

Sep 2018

Any Black people that are buying his stuff need to stop. Let's see how much money he gets with alt-right people as his only potential customers.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)

16. I think I get what he means, but he is saying it in the wrong way.

Reply to CatWoman (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 03:48 PM

Oct 2018

Also, he may not understand how hard it is to actually change the Constitution. Also, for him to take this stance and then stand behind tRump makes no sense at all.

Maybe Kanye needs to take some of his money and go to school.

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