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kpete

(71,994 posts) Mon Oct 1, 2018, 06:58 PM Oct 2018

An amazing part of the NBC Kavanaugh/Ramirez report:

Kavanaugh tried to obtain a photograph at a 1997 wedding "in order to show himself smiling alongside Ramirez 10 years after they graduated."

Text messages between those Yale classmates reveal Ramirez was desperate to avoid Kav at the wedding👇

This report is REVEALING:

Text messages suggest Kavanaugh wanted to refute accuser's claim before it became public
A former classmate of the Supreme Court nominee has reached out to the FBI but hasn't received a response.
by Heidi Przybyla and Leigh Ann Caldwell / Oct.01.2018 / 2:39 PM PDT

From left, Deborah Ramirez, Kerry E. Berchem, Doug Millet, Karen Yarasavage, Kevin Genda, Brett Kavanaugh and David White pose for a photo at the rehearsal dinner before the wedding of Yarasavage and Genda in 1997.Photo obtained by NBC News

The texts between Berchem and Karen Yarasavage, both friends of Kavanaugh, suggest that the nominee was personally talking with former classmates about Ramirez’s story in advance of the New Yorker article that made her allegation public. In one message, Yarasavage said Kavanaugh asked her to go on the record in his defense. Two other messages show communication between Kavanaugh's team and former classmates in advance of the story.

The texts also demonstrate that Kavanaugh and Ramirez were more socially connected than previously understood and that Ramirez was uncomfortable around Kavanaugh when they saw each other at a wedding 10 years after they graduated. Berchem's efforts also show that some potential witnesses have been unable to get important information to the FBI.

MUCH MORE:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/mutual-friend-ramirez-kavanaugh-anxious-come-forward-evidence-n915566

NBC News notes that Kavanaugh told the Judiciary Committee under oath that the 1st time he heard about Deborah Ramirez's allegation was in the New Yorker article. These text messages would seem to refute that timeline, if accurate.

NBC News: Text messages between two friends of Brett Kavanaugh "suggest that the nominee was personally talking with former classmates about [Deborah] Ramirez's story in advance of the New Yorker article that made her allegation public."https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/mutual-friend-ramirez-kavanaugh-anxious-come-forward-evidence-n915566 …

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An amazing part of the NBC Kavanaugh/Ramirez report: (Original Post) kpete Oct 2018 OP

This deserves a WOW! He knew babylonsister Oct 2018 #1

WOW, HE LIED! kpete Oct 2018 #2

I keep thinking he's toast; this is very convincing. Thanks, kpete! babylonsister Oct 2018 #4

smiling... kpete Oct 2018 #5

So he bold faced lied about this too ?! uponit7771 Oct 2018 #6

Seems like the only thing he said Thursday that was true was that he likes beer. nt SunSeeker Oct 2018 #13

K&R Scurrilous Oct 2018 #3

I mean, this HAS to be the beginning of the end...right? NorCen_CT Oct 2018 #7

It would seem that way. Quixote1818 Oct 2018 #8

Exactly! NorCen_CT Oct 2018 #17

Stick a fork on him! IluvPitties Oct 2018 #9

Even if he lies as much as the fucking moron the GOP BigmanPigman Oct 2018 #10

With-draw Kava-naugh ffr Oct 2018 #11

If this is true it is absolute proof he lied to the committee. ooky Oct 2018 #12

The "beautiful people" sure have some ugly shit going on. nt SunSeeker Oct 2018 #14

I know I'm seeing what I want to see, but he looks like SUCH a hanger-on in that photo. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2018 #15

Is there a point where he is more trouble than he is worth to the R's? nature-lover Oct 2018 #16

I think Trump loves Kavanaugh NewJeffCT Oct 2018 #18

babylonsister

(171,066 posts)

1. This deserves a WOW! He knew

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:06 PM

Oct 2018

he had to/should cover his ass way back in 1997?!

kpete

(71,994 posts)

2. WOW, HE LIED!

Reply to babylonsister (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:07 PM

Oct 2018

babylonsister

(171,066 posts)

4. I keep thinking he's toast; this is very convincing. Thanks, kpete!

Reply to kpete (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:08 PM

Oct 2018

kpete

(71,994 posts)

5. smiling...

Reply to babylonsister (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:09 PM

Oct 2018

uponit7771

(90,342 posts)

6. So he bold faced lied about this too ?!

Reply to kpete (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:09 PM

Oct 2018

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)

13. Seems like the only thing he said Thursday that was true was that he likes beer. nt

Reply to uponit7771 (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 10:00 PM

Oct 2018

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)

3. K&R

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:08 PM

Oct 2018

NorCen_CT

(176 posts)

7. I mean, this HAS to be the beginning of the end...right?

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 07:10 PM

Oct 2018

Per Flake and Coons last night, if Kavanaugh was shown to have lied under oath, his nomination would be dead in the water.

Quixote1818

(28,941 posts)

8. It would seem that way.

Reply to NorCen_CT (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 09:14 PM

Oct 2018

People can go to jail for 20 years for witnesses tampering. This is getting ridiculous. He's a disaster.

NorCen_CT

(176 posts)

17. Exactly!

Reply to Quixote1818 (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:15 AM

Oct 2018

And as bad as Amy Coney Barrett is ideologically, isn't she nearly the perfect antidote to Kavanaugh at this point (with the legislative and executive branches both being run by the GOP)?

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)

9. Stick a fork on him!

Reply to NorCen_CT (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 09:17 PM

Oct 2018

BigmanPigman

(51,593 posts)

10. Even if he lies as much as the fucking moron the GOP

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 09:31 PM

Oct 2018

will support him, just like the fucking moron. No difference. Only Flake will possibly stand up against this shit on the committee. I have a feeling Manchin will cave too. I wonder what the two GOP senators Collins and Murkowski will do?

ffr

(22,670 posts)

11. With-draw Kava-naugh

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 09:32 PM

Oct 2018

Sick pervert! You give perverts a bad name.

ooky

(8,923 posts)

12. If this is true it is absolute proof he lied to the committee.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 09:39 PM

Oct 2018

Its a smoking gun for the senators who have stated that if he lied it is disqualifying.

SunSeeker

(51,559 posts)

14. The "beautiful people" sure have some ugly shit going on. nt

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 10:02 PM

Oct 2018

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,350 posts)

15. I know I'm seeing what I want to see, but he looks like SUCH a hanger-on in that photo.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 10:02 PM

Oct 2018

nature-lover

(1,469 posts)

16. Is there a point where he is more trouble than he is worth to the R's?

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2018, 10:04 PM

Oct 2018

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)

18. I think Trump loves Kavanaugh

Reply to nature-lover (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:23 AM

Oct 2018

Because Kav feels a president should not even be investigated while in office...

However, Trump loves Trump over everything else and if Kavvy becomes too much of a liability, Trump will cut him loose and Republicans will try to push through another RWer during the lame duck session.

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