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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:31 PM Oct 2018

It almost seems like they are setting up to pull Kavanaugh and portray men as victims


Wondering if the initial investigations in Ramirez and the texts showed Kavanaugh deliberately lying and exposing that he had prior knowledge about the complaint before Ramirez came forth (which would confirm that it happened) and they are curtailing the investigation because they don't want anything more to be documented.

Then they would yell, stream and stomp, how unfair life is to boys and men and guys like Kav are the real victim, after Ramirez didn't file a complaint and even joined with Kavanaugh at a wedding party 10 years after the incident.

Trump's "scary time for boys" line seemed too rehearsed and not the least bit spontaneous, as if they were planting it as a foundation for a counter attack.
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It almost seems like they are setting up to pull Kavanaugh and portray men as victims (Original Post) grantcart Oct 2018 OP
It's possible, but I'd think that's Plan B marylandblue Oct 2018 #1
He just started doing a mimic of Dr. Ford. grantcart Oct 2018 #2
If they pull him, Trump's next pick is virtually guaranteed to pass. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2018 #3
Certainly it will be a woman with a modest past grantcart Oct 2018 #4
Sarah Palin? No... you said "modest". keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #6
So? All they did was obstruct Legitimate President Obama. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2018 #10
Let them scream whatever they want. Volaris Oct 2018 #13
They're attempting to change the narrative. We cannot let them get away with it! Initech Oct 2018 #5
Graham said Ford was as much a victim as Kav. keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #7
That's because Graham's a fucking hateful idiot. Volaris Oct 2018 #14
NBC evening news was all about men being victimized. tavernier Oct 2018 #8
They must think Ted Bundy was a saint. rockfordfile Oct 2018 #18
I doubt it. They need this asshole to cover their crimes. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2018 #9
Kavanaugh says his family has been "destroyed". Don't they believe him? Marcuse Oct 2018 #11
Why did he put them through this? Oh yeah, lust for power. SharonAnn Oct 2018 #12
Also notice what has disappeared from the headlines? roamer65 Oct 2018 #15
I fully expect the Turtle to put the Senate into recess after the elections... roamer65 Oct 2018 #16
That seems the most unlikely outcome grantcart Oct 2018 #17
Depends on the new Senate. roamer65 Oct 2018 #19
They can't continue a recess appointment. Trump could make another recess grantcart Oct 2018 #20
Which Republicans will vote no? oberliner Oct 2018 #21

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
1. It's possible, but I'd think that's Plan B
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:36 PM
Oct 2018

Plan A is to get him confirmed. But if two Republicans say no they will blame Democrats and women.

3. If they pull him, Trump's next pick is virtually guaranteed to pass.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 08:54 PM
Oct 2018

The first time, the Dems will be considered (by some) to be making a principled stand on sexual assault, lying, and judicial temperment.

If the Dems gain control of the Senate and don't approve the next nominee -- I understand Harriet Meyers is still available -- the cries of "obstructionism!" will ring from sea to polluted sea.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
10. So? All they did was obstruct Legitimate President Obama.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 10:20 PM
Oct 2018

From day one. Everything he tried to do was blunted, obstructed, muted and trashed. It didn’t seem to hurt them any, why should we care?

tavernier

(12,400 posts)
8. NBC evening news was all about men being victimized.
Tue Oct 2, 2018, 09:50 PM
Oct 2018

My blood pressure went sky high.

And not one word about the New York Times report on Rumps finances.

SharonAnn

(13,778 posts)
12. Why did he put them through this? Oh yeah, lust for power.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 12:03 AM
Oct 2018

He'll sacrifice anyone who isn't a white, male, patriarchal, conservative. Actually, he might sacrifice them, too. His lust for power is so great.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
16. I fully expect the Turtle to put the Senate into recess after the elections...
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 12:41 AM
Oct 2018

if Rapey Bart is not confirmed.

Dump will then make him a recess appointment.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
17. That seems the most unlikely outcome
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 01:07 AM
Oct 2018

1) The Senate passed a resolution against further uses of RA for the Supreme Court.

2) It is temporary and would end in December and then would have to be approved by the New Senate which could be held by Dems.

More likely they will jam thru a woman candidate with a clean record

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
19. Depends on the new Senate.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:14 AM
Oct 2018

If they control it, they can leave the appointment for the next two years.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
20. They can't continue a recess appointment. Trump could make another recess
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 02:31 AM
Oct 2018

Appointment, but only after the Senate recesses again.

Much simpler to jam through a less complicated candidate

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