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Funtatlaguy

(10,886 posts)
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 07:31 PM Oct 2018

It's funny how the media won't go near FFFFF .

They did show Kavanaughs letter about drinking and puking at the beach house.
And some did talk about him signing it with the name Bart.
But, they didn’t discuss how he signed it with 5 F’s.
They don’t want to go there because it’s awkward to discuss sex stuff.

In his testimony last Thursday, Kavanaugh said those F’s referred to a friends stuttering.
That was a lie.
Why would Kavanaugh sign a letter....FFFFF Bart.
It’s because his drinking nickname was Bart O’Kavanaugh and because his friends used the 5F’s as a slogan or mantra.

Here’s what it means. I know because I heard my brother and his drunk horny friends use it all the time back in the 1970’s and 80’s.

Find em
Fondle em
Finger em
Fuck em and
Forget em.

Why does this matter? Because Kavanaugh lied to Congress about it.
He also lied when he said the expression Devils Triangle is a drinking game.
It’s not. It’s when two men have sex with one woman.
Kav and his friends obviously talked about booze and having sex a lot.
Many high school and college boys do this.
But he lied about it and tried to pretend he was a choir boy.
Friends and acquaintances have backed up the oft drunk sexually inappropriate version of him.
But, the press, the Senate, and the media won’t totally go down that road.
And that’s pathetic. And totally unfair to the women.

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It's funny how the media won't go near FFFFF . (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 OP
A lot of Recs (thNks) but no comments? Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #1
I didn't know what it meant, was in College 72 to 76 grantcart Oct 2018 #4
It's was called 4F'in when I was in high school. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #27
Thanks. That unfortunately sounds far more credible than Hortensis Oct 2018 #2
Not funny to me. triron Oct 2018 #3
I meant funny strange....not funny haha. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #5
I was just expressing sarcasm. I knew what you meant. triron Oct 2018 #21
It is a bunch of misogynistic crap much like what the Frat boys scrawled on the cubicles when I Glimmer of Hope Oct 2018 #6
I quit high school because the FFFFF Bart kids made my life a Lord of the Flies living hell. hunter Oct 2018 #7
That's terrible. Sorry you went thru that. Hope it made you stronger somehow. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #10
Disgusting that this happened to you... and sad. We had guys like that in our high school. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #28
IMHO even IF i was going to buy his explanation, that logosoco Oct 2018 #8
I do remember that as a FFFF irisblue Oct 2018 #9
Yep--4-F Here and I Went to HS in the FIFTIES!! DoctorJoJo Oct 2018 #18
That's how I remember it, too. Mr.Bill Oct 2018 #19
KR NT ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2018 #11
That struck me too. Obviously I'm not the only one. nt SunSeeker Oct 2018 #12
Great minds..... Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #13
I wondered why there was no reference either last night on Laurence. Pepsidog Oct 2018 #14
I questioned this last night on Laurence O'Donnel'a show Pepsidog Oct 2018 #15
Just curious catchnrelease Oct 2018 #20
Yes he did an entire segment on the letter. Basically saying that the letter proved that Kav Pepsidog Oct 2018 #24
All media avoid the F word. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #25
fake news pretzel4gore Oct 2018 #31
All this is so foreign to me Taraman Oct 2018 #16
I went to college with a lot of guys who went to all-boys Freddie Oct 2018 #26
I saw a lot of this in the military... Ohiya Oct 2018 #29
And it's perjury, the crime for which Kavanaugh, his boss Starr, and the Republicans impeached Clint BadgerMom Oct 2018 #17
Wasn't his fraternity the same as W's? kskiska Oct 2018 #22
wasn't said fraternity banned from the Yale campus for their "no means yes; yes means anal!" chant? anarch Oct 2018 #30
Circa 1918 Donkees Oct 2018 #23
My mother remembered her father (who died when she was 7) kskiska Oct 2018 #34
This is the version I remember! Rhiannon12866 Oct 2018 #35
Could inspire a parody version for KKKK Kavanaugh :) Donkees Oct 2018 #38
Yes, it could! LOL! Rhiannon12866 Oct 2018 #39
thanks for clarifying bdamomma Oct 2018 #32
Grew up in 2naSalit Oct 2018 #33
Standards & Practices would not allow it AND SoCalDem Oct 2018 #36
We know it as four Fs in the Caribbean malaise Oct 2018 #37

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
4. I didn't know what it meant, was in College 72 to 76
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:46 PM
Oct 2018

If anyone had used this among my male college classmates he would have been ostracized.

Went to a Presbyterian College with a mix of conservative and liberal traditions but the respect for women was 10,000 times higher than these idiots have showed. Any misogynistic actions would have stood out. There was one professor that hooked up with students but it was consensual, that was the only out of the ordinary experience I knew of in 4 years.

Its absolutely stunning. We were a dry campus and there weren't many off campus drinking parties.

I actually think we had more sex than these guys who were drinking heavily and were on the hunt.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. Thanks. That unfortunately sounds far more credible than
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:43 PM
Oct 2018

the f-f-f-f-friend explanation. Obscenity seems probable, but this disgusting thing outdoes our modest assumptions.

triron

(22,020 posts)
3. Not funny to me.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:45 PM
Oct 2018

Why don't they talk about Avenatti's clients?. I think much the same reason
Afraid to piss off pukes too much.

Glimmer of Hope

(5,823 posts)
6. It is a bunch of misogynistic crap much like what the Frat boys scrawled on the cubicles when I
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 08:52 PM
Oct 2018

was in college. Don't lie about it.

hunter

(38,326 posts)
7. I quit high school because the FFFFF Bart kids made my life a Lord of the Flies living hell.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:00 PM
Oct 2018

They called me queerbait and would sometimes beat me bloody.

Supposedly responsible adults in school administration would blame me for provoking them. It didn't matter that I was the only one bleeding.

Even so, I didn't suffer anything near as horrible as the young women they targeted.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
28. Disgusting that this happened to you... and sad. We had guys like that in our high school.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:40 AM
Oct 2018

Most of them were on the football team, like Bart.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
8. IMHO even IF i was going to buy his explanation, that
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:01 PM
Oct 2018

it was mocking a friends stutter...maybe I just grew up different (had been raped and bullied) but if someone is still mocking a friends stutter by this late in high school, maybe you don't really have what it takes to become a SC judge.

There are probably over 100,000 people who would be more qualified than this guy. They must really want this particular person for a reason. hmmmm....

irisblue

(33,023 posts)
9. I do remember that as a FFFF
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 09:05 PM
Oct 2018

Find them
Feel them
Fuck them
Forget Them
Early 80's, Grand Rapids, Mich


I checked urban dictionary, but it wasn't there.

Mr.Bill

(24,319 posts)
19. That's how I remember it, too.
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 10:31 PM
Oct 2018

California when I was in grade school in the 60s. My wife, who is 68, had never heard it before. I'm sure many women haven't.

catchnrelease

(1,945 posts)
20. Just curious
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 10:37 PM
Oct 2018

I didn't see the O'Donnell show, but wondering if he pointed out that the letter was signed 'Bart', not Brett. Kavanaugh testified that the puking 'Bart O' Kavanaugh' that Judge wrote about in his book didn't pertain to him, and it was just a made up name. I know it doesn't prove anything, but kind of odd that he would sign a note to his buds with that same name.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
24. Yes he did an entire segment on the letter. Basically saying that the letter proved that Kav
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 11:20 PM
Oct 2018

was the “Bart O’Kavenaugh” referenced in Mark Judge’s books. Laurence made the point that while Kav would not directly answer Sen. Leahy’s “Yes or no” question whether he was the person depicted in the books, Kav answers the question by signing the letter “Bart”. Surprisingly there was no mention of the FFFFF which stuck out like a sore thumb.

Funtatlaguy

(10,886 posts)
25. All media avoid the F word.
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:30 AM
Oct 2018

They just won’t go there.
And, in this case, they needed to.
It was germane to the case to show that Kav was lying.

 

pretzel4gore

(8,146 posts)
31. fake news
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:03 AM
Oct 2018

the pigmedia are criminals, looking out for the tender *holes who might be upset by raw true news. they've been doing this for eveh, and we are in this mess with trumpotus etc because they doc the news...and it's impossible to know when and who's pushing fake dope (try sell chunk of drywall as rock in goal and you get your face busted up!) ...these liars make governance IMPOSSIBLE!

Taraman

(373 posts)
16. All this is so foreign to me
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 10:28 PM
Oct 2018

Who are these creeps that treat women like this? Saw nothing like it in my generation. Went to college back East with preppies and many were pretty weird, but nothing like these guys.

They are a nightmare.

Freddie

(9,273 posts)
26. I went to college with a lot of guys who went to all-boys
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:35 AM
Oct 2018

Catholic schools. They really didn’t know how to deal with girls. Had trouble having female friends, we were either date material or didn’t exist. Most of then eventually figured it out.

BadgerMom

(2,771 posts)
17. And it's perjury, the crime for which Kavanaugh, his boss Starr, and the Republicans impeached Clint
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 10:28 PM
Oct 2018

He had a consensual adult relationship. He didn't want to describe his actions in public, just as Kavanaugh doesn't. But Clinton was shown no compassion. Neither should Kavanaugh. He's a lying weasel. (Yes. Name-calling is childish and rude. But it's a small pleasure.)

kskiska

(27,047 posts)
22. Wasn't his fraternity the same as W's?
Wed Oct 3, 2018, 11:00 PM
Oct 2018

The initiation included branding butts with a coat hanger. W claimed it was just like a cigarette burn. They probably vowed to stick up for one another for life.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
30. wasn't said fraternity banned from the Yale campus for their "no means yes; yes means anal!" chant?
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 08:42 AM
Oct 2018

yes, yes it was:

https://www.businessinsider.com/yale-delta-kappa-epsilon-2018-1

Our whole patriarchal/plutocratic system has a built-in misogynistic streak...that's why these privileged old white fuckers aren't really too bent out of shape by the idea of having a rapist on the SCOTUS--they have the same basic views regarding women, i.e. that they are inferior, exist only to fulfill men's needs and have babies, and are not particularly worthy of respect.

kskiska

(27,047 posts)
34. My mother remembered her father (who died when she was 7)
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 07:51 PM
Oct 2018

singing this song. It was popular among WWI soldiers.

Rhiannon12866

(206,006 posts)
35. This is the version I remember!
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 12:28 AM
Oct 2018

My grandmother had a victrola that played the old Thomas Edison records and we kids loved to listen to them!

Rhiannon12866

(206,006 posts)
39. Yes, it could! LOL!
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 06:37 AM
Oct 2018

And thanks for the memories. My brother has that victrola now and I doubt he ever listens to it, it's sitting in a corner. It was in my grandmother's barn/outbuilding and kids broke in and smashed some of those precious old records - so I talked my grandmother into giving it to my brother to keep it safe, he was the musical one of the two of us. But it was so long ago that I was living at home, now I don't have access to it. But I'm remembering many of the songs. This one was another favorite:

bdamomma

(63,922 posts)
32. thanks for clarifying
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 09:07 AM
Oct 2018

the 5 F's,disgusting.

If they want to ignite women into massive protests keep pushing us, because we will be out there.

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
33. Grew up in
Thu Oct 4, 2018, 10:05 AM
Oct 2018

NE in the 50s and 60s and I knew what both versions were by sixth grade. There were plenty of prep schools, catholic schools and colleges. It was a clearly male dominated world, all assaults were automatically the female's fault, regardless of age.

My pedophile father got away with no jail time for decades and was never really called to account for trashing the lives of many. I learned his moves at an early age so I was never physically sexually assaulted but siblings were and I knew about it. Therefore, I knew about the fact that I had no rights very early in life.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
36. Standards & Practices would not allow it AND
Fri Oct 5, 2018, 03:53 AM
Oct 2018

these old fools are squeamish to say those things "in polite company"..
You know what's odd though?

When I was robbed at gunpoint I HAD to say EXACTLY what the little punk had said to me..bad words and all, I was horrified to say "Give me the the fucking money, bitch" out loud in court, but I did it..

The truly evil part is that the kavanaugh asshole used such crude language and lived such a nasty life that it's too awful to repeat on tv.. a real upstanding person for the supreme court..

EVERYONE does crazy shit when they are young, but not EVERYONE is considered for SCOTUS. and most people have the good sense to know where the line is , even when they are young.

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