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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's funny how the media won't go near FFFFF .
They did show Kavanaughs letter about drinking and puking at the beach house.
And some did talk about him signing it with the name Bart.
But, they didnt discuss how he signed it with 5 Fs.
They dont want to go there because its awkward to discuss sex stuff.
In his testimony last Thursday, Kavanaugh said those Fs referred to a friends stuttering.
That was a lie.
Why would Kavanaugh sign a letter....FFFFF Bart.
Its because his drinking nickname was Bart OKavanaugh and because his friends used the 5Fs as a slogan or mantra.
Heres what it means. I know because I heard my brother and his drunk horny friends use it all the time back in the 1970s and 80s.
Find em
Fondle em
Finger em
Fuck em and
Forget em.
Why does this matter? Because Kavanaugh lied to Congress about it.
He also lied when he said the expression Devils Triangle is a drinking game.
Its not. Its when two men have sex with one woman.
Kav and his friends obviously talked about booze and having sex a lot.
Many high school and college boys do this.
But he lied about it and tried to pretend he was a choir boy.
Friends and acquaintances have backed up the oft drunk sexually inappropriate version of him.
But, the press, the Senate, and the media wont totally go down that road.
And thats pathetic. And totally unfair to the women.
Funtatlaguy
(10,886 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)If anyone had used this among my male college classmates he would have been ostracized.
Went to a Presbyterian College with a mix of conservative and liberal traditions but the respect for women was 10,000 times higher than these idiots have showed. Any misogynistic actions would have stood out. There was one professor that hooked up with students but it was consensual, that was the only out of the ordinary experience I knew of in 4 years.
Its absolutely stunning. We were a dry campus and there weren't many off campus drinking parties.
I actually think we had more sex than these guys who were drinking heavily and were on the hunt.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)the f-f-f-f-friend explanation. Obscenity seems probable, but this disgusting thing outdoes our modest assumptions.
triron
(22,020 posts)Why don't they talk about Avenatti's clients?. I think much the same reason
Afraid to piss off pukes too much.
Funtatlaguy
(10,886 posts)triron
(22,020 posts)Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)was in college. Don't lie about it.
hunter
(38,326 posts)They called me queerbait and would sometimes beat me bloody.
Supposedly responsible adults in school administration would blame me for provoking them. It didn't matter that I was the only one bleeding.
Even so, I didn't suffer anything near as horrible as the young women they targeted.
Funtatlaguy
(10,886 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Most of them were on the football team, like Bart.
logosoco
(3,208 posts)it was mocking a friends stutter...maybe I just grew up different (had been raped and bullied) but if someone is still mocking a friends stutter by this late in high school, maybe you don't really have what it takes to become a SC judge.
There are probably over 100,000 people who would be more qualified than this guy. They must really want this particular person for a reason. hmmmm....
irisblue
(33,023 posts)Find them
Feel them
Fuck them
Forget Them
Early 80's, Grand Rapids, Mich
I checked urban dictionary, but it wasn't there.
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)California when I was in grade school in the 60s. My wife, who is 68, had never heard it before. I'm sure many women haven't.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)SunSeeker
(51,697 posts)Funtatlaguy
(10,886 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)catchnrelease
(1,945 posts)I didn't see the O'Donnell show, but wondering if he pointed out that the letter was signed 'Bart', not Brett. Kavanaugh testified that the puking 'Bart O' Kavanaugh' that Judge wrote about in his book didn't pertain to him, and it was just a made up name. I know it doesn't prove anything, but kind of odd that he would sign a note to his buds with that same name.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)was the Bart OKavenaugh referenced in Mark Judges books. Laurence made the point that while Kav would not directly answer Sen. Leahys Yes or no question whether he was the person depicted in the books, Kav answers the question by signing the letter Bart. Surprisingly there was no mention of the FFFFF which stuck out like a sore thumb.
Funtatlaguy
(10,886 posts)They just wont go there.
And, in this case, they needed to.
It was germane to the case to show that Kav was lying.
pretzel4gore
(8,146 posts)the pigmedia are criminals, looking out for the tender *holes who might be upset by raw true news. they've been doing this for eveh, and we are in this mess with trumpotus etc because they doc the news...and it's impossible to know when and who's pushing fake dope (try sell chunk of drywall as rock in goal and you get your face busted up!) ...these liars make governance IMPOSSIBLE!
Taraman
(373 posts)Who are these creeps that treat women like this? Saw nothing like it in my generation. Went to college back East with preppies and many were pretty weird, but nothing like these guys.
They are a nightmare.
Freddie
(9,273 posts)Catholic schools. They really didnt know how to deal with girls. Had trouble having female friends, we were either date material or didnt exist. Most of then eventually figured it out.
Ohiya
(2,239 posts)Not so much high school or college.
BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)He had a consensual adult relationship. He didn't want to describe his actions in public, just as Kavanaugh doesn't. But Clinton was shown no compassion. Neither should Kavanaugh. He's a lying weasel. (Yes. Name-calling is childish and rude. But it's a small pleasure.)
kskiska
(27,047 posts)The initiation included branding butts with a coat hanger. W claimed it was just like a cigarette burn. They probably vowed to stick up for one another for life.
anarch
(6,535 posts)yes, yes it was:
https://www.businessinsider.com/yale-delta-kappa-epsilon-2018-1
Our whole patriarchal/plutocratic system has a built-in misogynistic streak...that's why these privileged old white fuckers aren't really too bent out of shape by the idea of having a rapist on the SCOTUS--they have the same basic views regarding women, i.e. that they are inferior, exist only to fulfill men's needs and have babies, and are not particularly worthy of respect.
Donkees
(31,453 posts)kskiska
(27,047 posts)singing this song. It was popular among WWI soldiers.
Rhiannon12866
(206,006 posts)My grandmother had a victrola that played the old Thomas Edison records and we kids loved to listen to them!
Donkees
(31,453 posts)Rhiannon12866
(206,006 posts)And thanks for the memories. My brother has that victrola now and I doubt he ever listens to it, it's sitting in a corner. It was in my grandmother's barn/outbuilding and kids broke in and smashed some of those precious old records - so I talked my grandmother into giving it to my brother to keep it safe, he was the musical one of the two of us. But it was so long ago that I was living at home, now I don't have access to it. But I'm remembering many of the songs. This one was another favorite:
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)the 5 F's,disgusting.
If they want to ignite women into massive protests keep pushing us, because we will be out there.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)NE in the 50s and 60s and I knew what both versions were by sixth grade. There were plenty of prep schools, catholic schools and colleges. It was a clearly male dominated world, all assaults were automatically the female's fault, regardless of age.
My pedophile father got away with no jail time for decades and was never really called to account for trashing the lives of many. I learned his moves at an early age so I was never physically sexually assaulted but siblings were and I knew about it. Therefore, I knew about the fact that I had no rights very early in life.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)these old fools are squeamish to say those things "in polite company"..
You know what's odd though?
When I was robbed at gunpoint I HAD to say EXACTLY what the little punk had said to me..bad words and all, I was horrified to say "Give me the the fucking money, bitch" out loud in court, but I did it..
The truly evil part is that the kavanaugh asshole used such crude language and lived such a nasty life that it's too awful to repeat on tv.. a real upstanding person for the supreme court..
EVERYONE does crazy shit when they are young, but not EVERYONE is considered for SCOTUS. and most people have the good sense to know where the line is , even when they are young.
malaise
(269,157 posts)Fool
Feel
Fuck
Forget
He fooled no one - what a stupid LIAR